I don't see the need to take a WR in the 1st round if Hill is gone. This class has a metric shit ton of WRs that Andy could work with. I don't want DK and I'm not spending #29 on a WR when there are better players there.

I think they'd be better served to trade up in the 2nd to take Isabella than to trade up in the 1st for someone.

If Hollywood checks out, he's the best WR in the class for my money. As htis said though, lis francs are no joke.

Hill is just so unique. **** this really sucks.

Hollywood Brown is 5’9” 166 lbs and has a Lis franc injury

He’s as fragile as it gets. I’d be so pissed off if we were stupid enough to draft that guy at 29.

Isabella is tiny, man.

I know a cottage industry has sprung up around the 'hey, just because he's white doesn't mean he's just a slot guy!!" narrative, but the white thing isn't the problem.

The 'being 5'9'', 190 lbs' thing is the problem.

And I get that Hill's not that much taller and he may not be heavier, but the dude is built like a tank and that's how he can take some of the really solid shot's he taken while trying to extend himself to catch balls. Isabella isn't that sturdy; he'll get broken in half.

And you just cannot overstate how dynamic Hill's speed is. Isabella is fast, no doubt, but he's not Hill. And he's not quite as quick. You can't just take someone that's a little smaller, a little slower and a little less sudden than Hill and say "eh, he's close, he'll do..."

The combination of all those things may just make him a complementary player at best. Maybe he overcomes all that but there are a lot of WRs in this draft I'd take over him.

Draft Miles Boykin.

Very similar problem there though I think Brown's a little smoother in/out of breaks; a little more sudden than Isabella.

The Isabella love has been a bit weird to me. I like him, but I do think he's a niche kind of guy.

Hill is just a damn unicorn. I mean, the dude is what, 5'10 and can run that fast and dunk a basketball. He's the prototype WR in Andy's offense especially with the dude they have under center.

This sucks.

I could definitely endorse this. Could be a hell of a get in the 3rd round. I could see them pulling the same thing they did with Conley where the WR draft board starts to clear out a bit and they make a move to get up and grab Boykin in the 3rd.

There's just not a likely middle ground with the guy. He's a big-time boom/bust candidate, IMO.

But this is exactly why I'd take Isabella in the 2nd instead of someone like Brown in the first.

Exactly.

People are looking for some kind of Hill clone and those damn guys just don't exist. Someone being 90% of all the things Hill is doesn't mean that guy's gonna be 90% the WR Hill is. That's probably 50% the WR Hill is. He's just such a unique guy that looking at his skill sets and seeing some guys that get pretty close doesn't do much.

I was pondering Isabella with one of my 2nds and just didn't see it.

I'm not at all looking for a Hill clone. Andy Isabella just screams "Patriots". Imagine what Mahomes could do with a shifty, speedy possession receiver?

I don't think i'd look for a guy if I'm out to find a "Hill skillset". I'd just chalk that up to being a one time kinda thing, similar to Mahomes, and just look for a wr I liked.

You just aren't gonna find that and it's gonna be a pretty big blow to the offense if he's gone. As much as myself and others think "well Mahomes" that ain't the case with Hill.

They definitely need a chain mover, slot type guy.

I'm just not keen on spending a 2nd rounder on that.

Go find a Watkins clone for this offense.

That may be easier to find, but damn, I was actually looking at his measurments the other day.

That dude was a freak.

Absolutely.

Maybe. It will be a loss. I'm not sure it's a crusher though. QBs like Mahomes can make chicken salad out of chicken you-know-what. Just get him some talent and they'll be fine, even without Hill.

I'm not suggesting that would be my first choice in the 2nd round, either. I'm just saying I'd prefer that to spending a 1st on a guy like Brown or trading multiple picks to get up for a guy like Metcalf.

And all of that is why I wouldn't do either of those things. Give me McLaurin or Boykin in the 3rd over both of those options. I may even prefer Mecole Hardman. Emanuel Hall may be there in the 3rd, Riley Ridley, Paris Campbell, Debo Samuel.

I'd sit tight through the first 2 rounds if you're talking about Isabella as a 2nd rounder. If AJ Brown somehow fell that far or maybe even N'Keal Harry - I might jump. But I just don't see a good value fit likely in the 2nd.

I think you're wildly underestimating the impact Hill has on the offense. Mahomes is good, sure. But he's not been asked to ever make chicken salad here.

He's had filet all around him at his skill spots and i'm not sure I want to start subtracting them that quick

I just don't know how you can call a 5'9'' dude a possession receiver. You've gotta be so damn precise with a guy that has that kind of catch radius.

That's just too much draft capital for a guy who I think is limited to a Y receiver kind of role.

If Hill isn't a Chiefs or they think he won't be in August, that calculus may change a little though no?

I absolutely agree.

Like I told O.city, it's not my first choice. But I prefer Isabella over trading up or taking someone in the first.

Ideally, they'd not take a WR until the 3rd, where one of the guys you mentioned would be there. That's better value.

Well, if the Hill thing has legs, there's not very damn much that can be done about it, huh? That's the issue. It's not like they're saying they just don't want to pay him or something. It really isn't in the Chiefs hands until the investigation is complete. They can't sit on their hands and pass up opportunities, even if it is putting a band-aid on a great white bite.

Hugely so.

Losing Hill would be crushing for this offense. It's just like people saying "we don't need a C, we have Mahomes...."

I mean we cannot just keep piling more and more shit on this kid. Sooner or later you will hit a tipping point where he's either struggling to make the play or taking bigger and bigger hits to pull them off.

Losing Hill would be brutal and I think it would take the Super Bowl off the table. There's no way to hand waive what he adds to this offense. You remove the Z receiver from Reid's offense and you damn near have to scrap it. It's especially damaging when you can't trust Watkins to play more than 8-10 games.

It definitely sucks ass holes
Lots of them

Not really.

If Hill's not a Chief, you're gonna have to go to the drawing board and win a completely different way. The 2018 Chiefs offense as we knew it, the high-flying, 50 TD, 5,000 Yard, big play waiting to happen offense will be dead.

You're gonna have to learn to play a more conventional and sadly, conservative style. You're gonna have to try to play more complementary football.

You can use a 3rd rounder on a replacement X prospect and hope Watkins can give you some solid production at the Z when he's healthy (with Robinson likely your X for most of the year anyway), but that's just a standard deviation removed from where we were.

You're gonna need the first 3 picks to figure out how best to effectuate your plan B. Be that beefing up your OL to buy more time for diminished weapons to get open or a TE to play more 12 personnel. Or DL/Secondary to lean more heavily on your defense. Plan B gets the majority of your draft capital at that point, not attempting to salvage Plan A. Plan A is at the bottom of the North Atlantic and it ain't coming back...

It would suuuuuuuck.

Sad face

Mecole Hardman.

He’s more Tyler Lockett, but man can that kid fly. He’d be excellent insurance for Hill and you might be able to get him in rd 3. Wouldn’t be opposed to taking him at 63.

That would be my choice but I doubt you’re getting much from him in year 1

I doubt you're getting much from anybody in year 1.

It's not perfect by any means....but we'd have Watkins, Robinson and Pringle....unless they brought in a mid-tier FA.

Yes it would suck. But it isn't the end of the world. Geez...

No it isn't, but you can't continue to pursue the same plan with a lesser piece.

You gotta pursue better pieces for a different plan at that point. And if Mecole Hardman comes in and pulls a Hill while Watkins gives you 16 games as a viable Z, then hey - you're in business.

But I think both of those are so unlikely that you're in a 'prepare for the worst and hope for the best' mode. You change directions at that point and if you get lucky, then hey - the offense is still great AND you've beefed up elsehwere.

I don't disagree with that. They can't do what Andy did in Phily, that's for sure. He kept trying to get WR's when it was clear it wasn't working. He really never did move on to Plan B and that's what killed him.

Gary is one that I REALLY don't like.

That guy has underwear champion written all over him. I mean I don't want to put too fine a point on this, but the guy just kinda sucked in college.

Maybe someone has a reason for that but I sure don't. If they give up an additional 2nd day pick (or god help us, a 1st rounder next year) to move up for that guy, I'd be pretty pissed off.

I'd take Ferrell over Gary without question. I'd at least consider Sweat over Ferrell because the production and measurables are there, for the most part. Gary, OTOH, could amount to precisely dick in this league because there's a reason he was a virtual non-factor in Ann Arbor.

If you watch that Michigan defense, Gary is like the 4th or 5th guy you see. I agree with you, I wouldn't take him.

Yea Gary is the epitome of what you guys are saying about Sweat

True.

Outside of Bosa, williams, and allen I wouldnt take anyone over Ferrell

Yeah, like I said - I can make an argument in favor of Sweat if I wanted to. There are some things I like about him and just a few that I don't.

Gary, OTOH, I just do not like at all.

You know who does stand out on that defense though...?

DjLN can tell you. He knows.

I'm sure you're talking about David Long.

Oh wait! That's not right. Takes a savvy fan to give Chase Winovich his due credit. Nicely done.

<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/6Q2KA5ly49368" width="480" height="339" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/no-seinfeld-cinemagraph-6Q2KA5ly49368">via GIPHY</a></p>

ROFL

<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/i1JSXl0MfeRd6" width="480" height="373" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/jake-high-quality-gyllenhaal-i1JSXl0MfeRd6">via GIPHY</a></p>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Devin Bush is a lot of fun to study; here I show you why <a href="https://twitter.com/UMichFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UMichFootball</a> was lucky to have him in the middle of that defense <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBlue?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBlue</a> <a href="https://t.co/nwSrnuKXXd">https://t.co/nwSrnuKXXd</a></p>&mdash; Fran Duffy (@fduffy3) <a href="https://twitter.com/fduffy3/status/1111322742731739136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

At 29, sure. Trade up? No way.

I'm guessing he ends up in the top 14 ish.

I kinda hope they trade up for someone. I don't like sitting there and ending up with poopy mcfart role player.

I'm fine trading up for a playmaker. Not for an LB or OL.

The Cowboys Select Saivion Smith, CB, Alabama

Sorry for delay, can someone PM next?

Done

Ed Olivers short shuttle time was the same as....Desean Jackson.


Jesus.

The Titans worked him out as an OLB, reportedly.

It was between Ed and Haskins at 5 overall for Tampa. Dude is freakish.

The Philadelphia Eagles select Chase Hansen, OLB, Utah

The converted safety standout can find himself with coverage responsibilities on passing downs in the Eagles LB corps. Hansen was a bright spot on the Utes defense the past two seasons and is a savvy, competitive defender with + athleticism.

After making four defensive picks and an OL pick, Oakland finally goes with an offensive skilled position that could become a starter by the end of the year.

The Oakland Raiders select Benny Snell, Jr., RB, Kentucky.

The New York Giants select Jaquan Johnson S Miami

The New York Giants select Elijah Holyfield RB, Georgia

Damnit

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ft?share=other

Well done. It was between Hill and going full homer mode.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Maxx Crosby, EDGE, EMU.

Did you think they wouldn't go that early?

The Detroit Lions select Kyle Shurmur, QB, Vanderbilt


Detroit gets a backup QB for insurance for Stafford or with some seasoning maybe succesor.

Buffalo's war room was not excited to see this pick as they were hoping to steal the high-motor Crosby as a rotational edge player. Concerns about his ability to hold up at the point of attack may make him more of a 3-4 player than an 5-tech in their system so he may not have been the best fit anyway.

So they pivot and take one of two similarly situated OTs. Rather than focus on the floor and good power sets, they're going with the higher ceiling player of the two who's athleticism and plus arm length could make him a passable swing-tackle now with long-term ability to make it work even as an LT.

The Bill select:

Chuma Edoga, OT - USC

With the 149th pick in the NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select, Marvell Tell, III, S, USC

Can someone PM the next dude, I'm slammed at the office.

It's just rain man. He'll need 45 minutes to get his pictures lined up either way.

Dang. I just realized that Cincinnati native Charles Manson is dead. I had him all lined up to announce this pick.

With Charles Manson unavailable, we quickly switch to our backup plan, flying him in from an orgy on a yacht off the Italian coast.

Hoping to give the Bengals some good karma from his charmed life, Bengals fan George Clooney graciously steps to the podium, wearing the full uniform of his acclaimed role in Leatherheads.

https://www.altfg.com/film/wp-conten...ds-clooney.jpg

He flashes a charming smile at the audience, causing some female fans to swoon, then speaks smoothly and suavely.

The Cincinnati Bengals select Kris Boyd, CB, Texas.


He then winks at an attractive female Bengals fan, who removes her clothing and follows him off stage.

Dead people can't announce picks? Al Davis used to do it.

It depends on how easy they are to exhume, I think.

At George's request, Amal Clooney knocks on RealSNR's door to let him know that he's on the clock.

https://cdn-03.independent.ie/incomi...-09%202794.jpg

Cincinnati was very torn between two players. We'll hope the other one makes it to our next pick, but that's a long ways off.

I’m going to be away from the site for the next three days. If my pick comes up....literally anyone can make it. I’m not sending lists of who I want. First person that hops on...can make the pick.

Can you give me a list of famous people from your cities?

The Green Bay Packers select Dennis Daley, T, South Carolina

So is Franchise gone now or just "the next three days?"

I don't get the downplay on Isabella, to be honest. The kid is legit the best WR in this class and it isn't even close in my opinion. He runs perfect routes, doesn't drop passes, and he's got speed and quickness for days. If he were 2" taller he'd be a top 10 pick, and there still remains a legit chance he not only goes round 1 but goes top 20. The chatter is certainly heating up. If you think his speed isn't on par with Tyreek, you should really look again at his track history. They are incredibly close and Isabella did run a 4.31 at the combine. Reek ran a 4.29 at his pro day. Isabella ran the 60 in 6.72 and Reek ran it in 6.61. Isabella didn't get lucky and have a great, uncharacteristic time that doesn't show up in pads. He is blazing fast, period. Reek has an advantage in the quick change of direction, but Isabella is anything but a slouch there too. I wouldn't ever say Isabella can't be on par with Reek because he's right there athletically, and he's 100% more polished coming into the league as a receiver than Reek was. If KC thinks something is going to go down in a bad way with Tyreek, Isabella would be my #1 choice to replace him. That said, it sure is hard to go offense early in a defense-heavy draft with insane needs on that side of the ball.

Starting now for the next three days.

Somebody make a pick for Miami. I'm too ****ing drunk