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jettio 04-26-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14233126)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“At some point, draw the damn line and say enough is enough.”<br><br>-<a href="https://twitter.com/espngolic?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@espngolic</a> gets emotional over Tyreek Hill audio and wants NFL owners to take a stand. <a href="https://t.co/btCMjeeRZe">pic.twitter.com/btCMjeeRZe</a></p>&mdash; Golic and Wingo (@GolicAndWingo) <a href="https://twitter.com/GolicAndWingo/status/1121751172900163584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Golic thinks he has so much virtue, but methinks he still has PTSD over the Ray Rice twitter tsunami, and he is just playing to that crowd.

I am never watching any show with him or his son on it.

Calling another person trash is a greater sin than Tyreek trying to teach his son not to be a crybaby in a world where black people are considered disposable trash by white people like Golic.

Golic and all of these other virtuous media say they care about this kid. One day this kid is going to be old enough to watch video and read articles to see what these virtuous folk did to ruin his mother's life and his father's life and put obstacles in his family's path.

What is Golic going to say when the kid says Golic did more harm than good to his family? Is Golic going to say that the kid is nothing but a piece of trash that Golic wasted his fake tears on.

Donger 04-26-2019 02:37 PM

Obviously the Chiefs need to stop hiring men with 'ee' in their first names.

BlackOp 04-26-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 14233448)
I despise most political correctness, social media, and the hyper-sensitivity of modern society. However, this is NOT what that is...it's about a guy who didn't learn his lesson, and a whole bunch of other people trying to rationalize his relapse.

It will be a better world when this type of narrow-minded and self-serving perspective diminishes greatly with the passing of the Boomers.....

OK...so what exactly was gained by this situation? Everyone gets to rejoice in watching Hill learn his lesson? Watch a family get torn apart and lives ruined? What a child potentially lose his mother...or potentially go to jail?...all for the vicarious satisfaction/entertainment of witnessing a tragedy? Are you going to high five and think the world is a safer place now?

It's a sickness..period.

Red Beans 04-26-2019 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14233474)
Obviously the Chiefs need to stop hiring men with 'ee' in their first names.

Those ****ing double vowels, I tell ya.

George Liquor 04-26-2019 02:43 PM

:shake::shake::shake:

All he had to do was not commit domestic violence (again) and Tyreek is the highest paid WR in the NFL.

Rain Man 04-26-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14233474)
Obviously the Chiefs need to stop hiring men with 'ee' in their first names.

Meett Cassel
Deexter McCluster
Treezelle Jenkins
Eethan Horton

My gosh, you're right.

Mile High Mania 04-26-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 14233471)

Golic and all of these other virtuous media say they care about this kid. One day this kid is going to be old enough to watch video and read articles to see what these virtuous folk did to ruin his mother's life and his father's life and put obstacles in this family's path.

Wait.... what? That's wonderful work, painting the alleged abusers as victims.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma...wttvo1_500.gif

ayleswbj 04-26-2019 02:46 PM

Tyreek Hills teammates should invite him into the lockeroom , stick his arm in a vice and break it straight in half with a baseball bat. Beating and breaking a 3 year old arm? What is happening on this board with defending this? Goodell should have stepped on stage in prime time at the draft and announced in front of the whole world Tyreek Hill has been banned from the NFL for life

nychief 04-26-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14233478)
OK...so what exactly was gained by this situation? Everyone gets to rejoice in watching Hill learn his lesson? Watch a family get torn apart and lives ruined? What a child potentially lose his mother...or potentially go to jail?...all for the vicarious satisfaction/entertainment of witnessing a tragedy? Are you going to high five and think the world is a safer place now?

It's a sickness..period.

The lesson is...don’t ****ing abuse your child. Jesus ****ing Christ, how hard is this?

notorious 04-26-2019 02:48 PM

Teamsters?


Is he in the mafia?

Why Not? 04-26-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 14233452)
He should probably be on a suicide watch--seriously; this thing could go Belcher if they aren't careful...

I had this same thought. Hill is on the verge of never earning another cent in the NFL and having his name so tarnished he may be unhirable for years anywhere, even if he has the skills to obtain gainful employment. He may lose his son for an undisclosed period of time. His GF comes across as crazy enough that she could leave him. His name is forever mud to millions and millions of people. It’s his doing so it’s hard to feel sorry for him but the place he must be at internally is probably very dark right now.

notorious 04-26-2019 02:51 PM

I thought the same thing as Kotter.

He lost his girl, his kids, and 100 million in the blink of an eye.

GloryDayz 04-26-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14232389)
This whole incident has certainly solidified my preexisting hatred of the media, gold digging psycho demons and whining millennial snowflakes.

I don't know what Hill will do after this shit is over, but what he should do is go from college to college warning young football players not to stick their dicks in crazy. These guys should just go jerk off at sperm banks for later and then get vasectomies.

In the athlete's dorms?

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c7/60/40/c...fun-things.jpg

Rain Man 04-26-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 14233471)
Golic thinks he has so much virtue, but methinks he still has PTSD over the Ray Rice twitter tsunami, and he is just playing to that crowd.

I am never watching any show with him or his son on it.

Calling another person trash is a greater sin than Tyreek trying to teach his son not to be a crybaby in a world where black people are considered disposable trash by white people like Golic.

Golic and all of these other virtuous media say they care about this kid. One day this kid is going to be old enough to watch video and read articles to see what these virtuous folk did to ruin his mother's life and his father's life and put obstacles in his family's path.

What is Golic going to say when the kid says Golic did more harm than good to his family? Is Golic going to say that the kid is nothing but a piece of trash that Golic wasted his fake tears on.


I was actually pondering what this kid will think about when he's 18 or 25 or whatever. He's going to grow up without parents, he's going to realize that he was Exhibit A of this whole sordid thing, and he's going to see ghosts of a lost childhood where he had a life of great means.

None of this is his fault at all, of course, but I'd be shocked if the kid doesn't end up with a lot of survivor's guilt and sense of loss.

SAUTO 04-26-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14233511)
I was actually pondering what this kid will think about when he's 18 or 25 or whatever. He's going to grow up without parents, he's going to realize that he was Exhibit A of this whole sordid thing, and he's going to see ghosts of a lost childhood where he had a life of great means.

None of this is his fault at all, of course, but I'd be shocked if the kid doesn't end up with a lot of survivor's guilt and sense of loss.

He probably lost a large inheritance

BlackOp 04-26-2019 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 14233503)
The lesson is...don’t ****ing abuse your child. Jesus ****ing Christ, how hard is this?

And you know for fact that Hill Intentionally broke his child's arm...cool, because the DA couldn't even prove it. Abuse would imply that he deliberately intended to harm the child...

People need to stop throwing the "abuse" term around so loosely....

Rain Man 04-26-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14233513)
He probably lost a large inheritance

Yeah, that's something that will cause a lot of thinking on quiet nights at the bar. What might have been. I feel sorry for the kid in multiple respects.

TribalElder 04-26-2019 03:10 PM

criminal case re-opened

https://www.kctv5.com/news/investiga...14b78938f.html

Time's Yours 04-26-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14233537)
Yeah, that's something that will cause a lot of thinking on quiet nights at the bar. What might have been. I feel sorry for the kid in multiple respects.

This sounds bad, and I'm not saying Tyreek doesn't deserve consequences, but honestly the best outcome for the kid is that Tyreek loses custody but keeps playing in the NFL and paying substantial support/inheritance.

GloryDayz 04-26-2019 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14233007)
That bitch is so dumb for making that recording. She just lost 30 million in child support

And let's hope, if they were mixed into this saga, the family gets dragged into the circus..

GloryDayz 04-26-2019 03:40 PM

I'll bet this gave KK a tall soapbox to stand atop and to virtue signal from today?

ayleswbj 04-26-2019 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14233513)
He probably lost a large inheritance

Maybe he never gets see that inheritance? Maybe next time it’s a broken leg and the time after that he’s choked until he passes out and the time after that Tyreek Hills kills his baby boy? Yea let’s let Hill keep playing so he can leave money to his son who he beats regularly, if you believe the tape and his history. It started with him almost killing the boy while he was in the womb.

I’ll take comfort knowing the boy is ok an Hill is in prison far far way from him; where he belongs .

Reerun_KC 04-26-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj (Post 14233668)
Maybe he never gets see that inheritance? Maybe next time it’s a broken leg and the time after that he’s choked until he passes out and the time after that Tyreek Hills kills his baby boy? Yea let’s let Hill keep playing so he can leave money to his son who he beats regularly, if you believe the tape and his history. It started with him almost killing the boy while he was in the womb.

I’ll take comfort knowing the boy is ok an Hill is in prison far far way from him; where he belongs .

You’re too emotionally invested in other people’s lives.

redshirt32 04-26-2019 03:44 PM

Regaurdless what ever anyone thinks did or did not happen.
This shit show will go on for another year.
If your the owner you don't need this drama,
Tyreek made his bed and now i bet he aint sleeping at all.
It wont get any better for a long time.

jettio 04-26-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14233511)
I was actually pondering what this kid will think about when he's 18 or 25 or whatever. He's going to grow up without parents, he's going to realize that he was Exhibit A of this whole sordid thing, and he's going to see ghosts of a lost childhood where he had a life of great means.

None of this is his fault at all, of course, but I'd be shocked if the kid doesn't end up with a lot of survivor's guilt and sense of loss.

That is the worst case scenario that the mob is calling for. Especially if the kid fell while playing, which is more likely than a malicious injury in my opinion.

It really should not be that way. It should just be help the family and help the kid as if it was a dad with any other job or profession.

If Tyreek acted out of malice, or out of failing to maintain self-control, it would be fair for there to be a sanction. I think it is more likely that he maintained self-control and that any interactions with the kid were not motivated by malice. If that is the case, the Chiefs and the NFL should realize that the right thing is to help people and not railroad them just because the crowd is riled up.

It seems like the rush to pre-judgment and call for the crucifixion of the scapegoat brouhahas happen around Easter.

ayleswbj 04-26-2019 03:47 PM

That’s probably true at the moment, many on here are probably fathers of young children. I’m just so disgusted by so many making excuses for Hill on this board. But I don’t see one problem feeling for this young boy who is being beaten and no one doin anything about it .

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 14233471)
Golic thinks he has so much virtue, but methinks he still has PTSD over the Ray Rice twitter tsunami, and he is just playing to that crowd.

I am never watching any show with him or his son on it.

Calling another person trash is a greater sin than Tyreek trying to teach his son not to be a crybaby in a world where black people are considered disposable trash by white people like Golic.

Golic and all of these other virtuous media say they care about this kid. One day this kid is going to be old enough to watch video and read articles to see what these virtuous folk did to ruin his mother's life and his father's life and put obstacles in his family's path.

What is Golic going to say when the kid says Golic did more harm than good to his family? Is Golic going to say that the kid is nothing but a piece of trash that Golic wasted his fake tears on.

Thanks for posting but I'm not even going to watch that shit. I could give two flying ****s what some hypocrite jock caster thinks about my team and about Tyreek Hill. This guy's just another dick buzzard looking to get a mouthful of cock-ratings.

notorious 04-26-2019 03:51 PM

Want to start rehabbing Hill’s image? Sign him to a small contract, and have it stipulated that 90%-95% of the money goes directly into an untouchable trust for his kids.


It’s all bullshit, but at least the kid will get some help.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by redshirt32 (Post 14233683)
Regaurdless what ever anyone thinks did or did not happen.
This shit show will go on for another year.
If your the owner you don't need this drama,
Tyreek made his bed and now i bet he aint sleeping at all.
It wont get any better for a long time.

What about the owner and the coach? Didn't they have a hand in making that bed?

Why do they get to wash their hands and be absolved so easily?

Again; don't buy the ticket if you don't want to take the ride.

Prison Bitch 04-26-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14233708)
Want to start rehabbing Hill’s image? Sign him to a small contract, and have it stipulated that 90%-95% of the money goes directly into an untouchable trust for his kids.


It’s all bullshit, but at least the kid will get some help.

Why would he ever agree to that come on

SAUTO 04-26-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj (Post 14233668)
Maybe he never gets see that inheritance? Maybe next time it’s a broken leg and the time after that he’s choked until he passes out and the time after that Tyreek Hills kills his baby boy? Yea let’s let Hill keep playing so he can leave money to his son who he beats regularly, if you believe the tape and his history. It started with him almost killing the boy while he was in the womb.

I’ll take comfort knowing the boy is ok an Hill is in prison far far way from him; where he belongs .

I wasnt defending anyone. I wasn't saying that as hill should get to keep playing. So you can take this post and **** yourself with it.

notorious 04-26-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14233716)
Why would he ever agree to that come on

1-2 years of that and this will be a distant memory. He can make his money after.

Hill doesn’t have options. He’s ****ed.

SAUTO 04-26-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 14233689)
That is the worst case scenario that the mob is calling for. Especially if the kid fell while playing, which is more likely than a malicious injury in my opinion.

It really should not be that way. It should just be help the family and help the kid as if it was a dad with any other job or profession.

If Tyreek acted out of malice, or out of failing to maintain self-control, it would be fair for there to be a sanction. I think it is more likely that he maintained self-control and that any interactions with the kid were not motivated by malice. If that is the case, the Chiefs and the NFL should realize that the right thing is to help people and not railroad them just because the crowd is riled up.

It seems like the rush to pre-judgment and call for the crucifixion of the scapegoat brouhahas happen around Easter.

The GF said tyreek was down stairs "getting on" the child when the injury happened. Hill said he did nothing but never explained the broken arm.

The child didn't fall while playing

kcpasco 04-26-2019 03:57 PM

Hill has plenty of options. Take away that lightning speed and his options would be 0.

Shiver Me Timbers 04-26-2019 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14233666)
I'll bet this gave KK a tall soapbox to stand atop and to virtue signal from today?

We were spared. He is away today

ClevelandBronco 04-26-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14233513)
He probably lost a large inheritance

Does Tyreek strike you as being the kind of guy who can manage and build a fortune or the kind of guy that can blow a fortune?

UChieffyBugger 04-26-2019 04:10 PM

GLAD TO SEE THE CHIEFS HAVE STOOD FIRM THROUGH THE TYPICAL OVER THE TOP MEDIA STORM AND HISSY FITS FROM "CHIEFS FANS" WHO DON'T GIVE A SH#T ABOUT THE PLAYERS AND SEE THEM AS MERELY PIECES OF MEAT THAT ENTERTAIN THEM. THE FRONT OFFICE HAVE SEEMINGLY LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THEIR RASH REACTION TOWARDS KAREEM AND THAT'S GREAT TO SEE. NOW FOR THE FACTS.

1. TYREEK WAS ACCUSED OF THINGS ON AUDIO BUT WITHOUT KNOWING HE WAS BEING RECORDED HE DENIED THEM. THAT SHOULD BE A KEY INGREDIENT IN ALL OF THIS BUT CERTAIN FOLKS DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.

2. THE DA CAN "RE-OPEN" ANYTHING THEY LIKE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHEN IT PERTAINS TO THE "ARM" INCIDENT THE FIANCE IMPLIED ON THE AUDIO THAT SHE WASN'T EVEN THERE WHEN THE KID'S ARM WAS INJURED AND ALLUDED TO A "FALL ON THE STAIRS" WHICH SEEMS TO BE TYREEK'S RECOLLECTION OF WHAT OCCURRED.

3. A MEMBER OF THE PLAYERS UNION HAS ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR THAT PLAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF CRIMES WHILST IN THE NFL (WHICH TYREEK HASN'T) HAVE NOT BEEN KICKED OUT OF THE LEAGUE AND THEY WILL FIGHT ANY LIFETIME BAN TO THE HILT. SO THOSE HOPING FOR TYREEK'S PERMANENT DEMISE ARE WASTING THEIR TIME, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

4. A GUY WHO HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF RAPE TWICE IS STILL PLAYING IN THE NFL AND HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND YET YOU'VE GOT MEDIA FOLKS CALLING FOR TYREEK TO GET BANNED FOR LIFE? OOPS, I FORGOT THAT THE GUY WHO WAS ACCUSED OF RAPE SEVERAL TIMES IS ONE OF THE "GOOD OLD BOYS", MY FAULT.

HOLD STRONG CLARK, VEACH AND ANDY!!!..UP TO THIS POINT YOU'VE SHOWN A TON OF COMMON SENSE AND I'M PROUD OF YOU GUYS.

BryanBusby 04-26-2019 04:12 PM

Okay thanks for that Randy Savage

Rain Man 04-26-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 14233689)
That is the worst case scenario that the mob is calling for. Especially if the kid fell while playing, which is more likely than a malicious injury in my opinion.

It really should not be that way. It should just be help the family and help the kid as if it was a dad with any other job or profession.

If Tyreek acted out of malice, or out of failing to maintain self-control, it would be fair for there to be a sanction. I think it is more likely that he maintained self-control and that any interactions with the kid were not motivated by malice. If that is the case, the Chiefs and the NFL should realize that the right thing is to help people and not railroad them just because the crowd is riled up.

It seems like the rush to pre-judgment and call for the crucifixion of the scapegoat brouhahas happen around Easter.

I think you're touching on something that makes me sad about this.

I honestly think the Tyreek is not an evil person, and his missteps were more out of ignorance than malice. For three years now I've seen a guy with a great work ethic, great team player, doing what the Chiefs asked of him on the charity stuff and that sort of thing, and he seems like a bright guy. This situation happened while he was trying to be a dad to his kid. Apparently he was terrible at it, but he was making an effort unlike a lot of other NFL players who just impregnate a woman and then write checks when the paternity test comes back positive.

So why would a bright guy do bad things? He's either an evil person who likes to bully people, or he's a guy who didn't have any idea how to be in a healthy family. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think it's the second answer. I've known people in that situation and it's challenging to break the training.

He obviously has been bad at handling his family life, and if that results in criminal charges, then he needs to face the music. But I find this story more sad than angering.

New World Order 04-26-2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14233782)
Okay thanks for that Randy Savage

LMAO

UChieffyBugger 04-26-2019 04:15 PM

IF I WAS IN TYREEK'S CAMP THOUGH I WOULD SUGGEST HE CALLS A PRESS CONFERENCE OR DOES AN INTERVIEW AND JUST GIVE HIS SIDE OF THE STORY AND BE HONEST. IF HE IS INNOCENT AS HE SUGGESTS, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR HIS IMAGE TO LAY IT OUT AND THEN JUST TELL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO BECOMING A BETTER MAN AND A BETTER FATHER. I BELIEVE IT WOULD HELP TO TAKE SOME STEAM OUT OF THE SITUATION AND PUT LESS PRESSURE ON THE CHIEFS TOO.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14233770)
GLAD TO SEE THE CHIEFS HAVE STOOD FIRM THROUGH THE TYPICAL OVER THE TOP MEDIA STORM AND HISSY FITS FROM "CHIEFS FANS" WHO DON'T GIVE A SH#T ABOUT THE PLAYERS AND SEE THEM AS MERELY PIECES OF MEAT THAT ENTERTAIN THEM. THE FRONT OFFICE HAVE SEEMINGLY LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THEIR RASH REACTION TOWARDS KAREEM AND THAT'S GREAT TO SEE. NOW FOR THE FACTS.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE, LIL' BUGGER! WE GOT THIS SHIT!

UChieffyBugger 04-26-2019 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14233813)
POWER TO THE PEOPLE, LIL' BUGGER! WE GOT THIS SHIT!

LOL even though you're one of my biggest haters, I've actually agreed with your stance on this issue so well done Sweet daddy hater!!! :D :clap:

notorious 04-26-2019 04:20 PM

You posted this at the exact same time they dropped another bomb.

Ouch.

jallmon 04-26-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 14231349)
Agreed.

Don't want to face him playing for the Raiders or Browns.

redshirt32 04-26-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14233711)
What about the owner and the coach? Didn't they have a hand in making that bed?

Why do they get to wash their hands and be absolved so easily?

Again; don't buy the ticket if you don't want to take the ride.

No the owner/coach are not in the news for alledged crime.
They gave Tyreek a 2nd chance an opportunity of a lifetime, but he can't keep his face of the front page.
If your the owner your f if you do your f if you don't.
Is it to late for Reek time will tell, alot of time.

In the meantime I'm moving on to the draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by redshirt32 (Post 14234029)
No the owner/coach are not in the news for alledged crime.
They gave Tyreek a 2nd chance an opportunity of a lifetime, but he can't keep his face of the front page.
If your the owner your f if you do your f if you don't.
Is it to late for Reek time will tell, alot of time.

In the meantime I'm moving on to the draft.

Yep, the draft. Our good ol', shitty draft. With our good ol' shitty GM and Coach who keep bringing DV cases in to the club house even after their "great judgment" blows right up in their faces.

As a fan, I have to tell you; I absolutely ADORE the stone cold fact that this franchise learns absolutely NOTHING from its mistakes because it is too ****ing arrogant and stupid to realize that it is MAKING a mistake.

scho63 04-26-2019 05:43 PM

This bad snowball is rolling downhill and it's not going to end well........

scho63 04-26-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14232290)
The Chiefs get a rabbit's foot for luck and it has rabies.

The Chiefs get a four leaf clover and it has cancer causing DDT on it.

The Chiefs find a lucky penny and it's counterfeit.

The Chiefs find a chicken wishbone and both players pulling it apart suffer severe injuries.

That's how I feel after 49 years of failure.

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 14232318)
Maybe we aren’t snake bit, maybe we draft criminals.

Joe Delaney and Derrick Thomas weren't criminals and Jovan Belcher wasn't a criminal he was just insane from CTE.

But the "Kicker Who Shall Remain Nameless" was certainly a thief! He stole the Chiefs chances for sure! ROFL

Frazod 04-26-2019 05:51 PM

Just amazing how gleefully the local media outlets are working together to **** over the area's most popular team when it is on the cusp of greatness.

OnTheWarpath15 04-26-2019 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14234354)
Just amazing how gleefully the local media outlets are working together to **** over the area's most popular team when it is on the cusp of greatness.

They wouldn't have anything to report if Hill wasn't a shitbag.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14234354)
Just amazing how gleefully the local media outlets are working together to **** over the area's most popular team when it is on the cusp of greatness.

In'nit though?

In58men 04-26-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14234354)
Just amazing how gleefully the local media outlets are working together to **** over the area's most popular team when it is on the cusp of greatness.

****ing ass backwards.

They should be wanting to help the situation. Instead they’re coming after him with tiki torches and pitchforks.

mcaj22 04-26-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14234058)
Yep, the draft. Our good ol', shitty draft. With our good ol' shitty GM and Coach who keep bringing DV cases in to the club house even after their "great judgment" blows right up in their faces.

As a fan, I have to tell you; I absolutely ADORE the stone cold fact that this franchise learns absolutely NOTHING from its mistakes because it is too ****ing arrogant and stupid to realize that it is MAKING a mistake.


but bro, trust their vetting process. it's ironclad!

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14234376)
****ing ass backwards.

They should be wanting to help the situation. Instead they’re coming after him with tiki torches and pitchforks.

In the old days, the editors had close relationships with the owners and coaches and there's no way in hell they would have let ANY of this leak out to the public. They all understood that it was bad for the team, the town, and the fans.
Now it's an adversarial relationship at best where the press basically lives to gut these guys in any way they can.

I'm looking forward to their report of watching Reid and co. march off the field in January with their tales between their legs and you know what? I'm not gonna' shed one tear or a grain of salt over it. You get what you deserve.

Prison Bitch 04-26-2019 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14234464)
In the old days, the editors had close relationships with the owners and coaches and there's no way in hell they would have let ANY of this leak out to the public. They all understood that it was bad for the team, the town, and the fans.
Now it's an adversarial relationship at best where the press basically lives to gut these guys in any way they can.

I'm looking forward to their report of watching Reid and co. march off the field in January with their tales between their legs and you know what? I'm not gonna' shed one tear or a grain of salt over it. You get what you deserve.

I don’t agree here. If Tyreek really broke his sons arm and hit her, PROVED, he needs to be banned from the NFL. I don’t want any society where athletes or rich people or the famous can be shielded from laws we all obey.


I think he should deny and fight only because it’s what I’d advise anyone on this board to do.

SAUTO 04-26-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14234311)
Joe Delaney and Derrick Thomas weren't criminals and Jovan Belcher wasn't a criminal he was just insane from CTE.

But the "Kicker Who Shall Remain Nameless" was certainly a thief! He stole the Chiefs chances for sure! ROFL

Do you really think DT didnt do crazy shit.? Illegal shit?

GloryDayz 04-26-2019 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 14233732)
We were spared. He is away today

The world is a better place when he's absent.

Best22 04-26-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14234354)
Just amazing how gleefully the local media outlets are working together to **** over the area's most popular team when it is on the cusp of greatness.

I’d be embarrassed if the local media tried to cover it up.

petegz28 04-26-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14234311)
Joe Delaney and Derrick Thomas weren't criminals and Jovan Belcher wasn't a criminal he was just insane from CTE.

But the "Kicker Who Shall Remain Nameless" was certainly a thief! He stole the Chiefs chances for sure! ROFL

DT was my favorite Chief. I can also tell you that a close friend of the family who is a retired KCMO Police Officer busted Neil Smith and DT on multiple occasions.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-26-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14234541)
I don’t agree here. If Tyreek really broke his sons arm and hit her, PROVED, he needs to be banned from the NFL. I don’t want any society where athletes or rich people or the famous can be shielded from laws we all obey.


I think he should deny and fight only because it’s what I’d advise anyone on this board to do.

And that's fine. I'm just giving Inmem a little historical perspective. That said, I DO believe it better that the process was not so public and that the authorities were doing their job without some batshit reporter lurking over their shoulders.

petegz28 04-26-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14234571)
Do you really think DT didnt do crazy shit.? Illegal shit?

Like partying in a motel off 87th & 435 with Neil Smith and a bunch of hoochie women doing cocaine?

NEVER!

SAUTO 04-26-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14234592)
Like partying in a motel off 87th & 435 with Neil Smith and a bunch of hoochie women doing cocaine?

NEVER!

I never saw it...

Chris Meck 04-26-2019 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14234571)
Do you really think DT didnt do crazy shit.? Illegal shit?


Uhhh. I knew him.

No comment. :D

But as far as I know he never beat any women, or any pregnant women, or anything violent off the field for that matter.

He liked to party.

who cares?

Best22 04-26-2019 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14234571)
Do you really think DT didnt do crazy shit.? Illegal shit?

DT was a fast living player from the early 90s. He was no choir boy

But he didn’t do what Tyreek did

SAUTO 04-26-2019 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14234595)
Uhhh. I knew him.

No comment. :D

But as far as I know he never beat any women, or any pregnant women, or anything violent off the field for that matter.

He liked to party.

who cares?

I definitely don't. But that wasn't the point. He said they didnt break the law. I ROFLat that

SAUTO 04-26-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 14234597)
DT was a fast living player from the early 90s. He was no choir boy

But he didn’t do what Tyreek did

Holy shit guys. I wasn't comparing the two. Just disagreeing on a point

BigRedChief 04-26-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14232965)
And if Mahomes or Kelce or any one of several Chiefs get hurt they're screwed as well. One player not named Mahomes will not make or break the season.

as long as Mahomes is upright and healthy to play, we can compete for a Super Bowl. He goes down, the season is lost.

GloryDayz 04-26-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14234354)
Just amazing how gleefully the local media outlets are working together to **** over the area's most popular team when it is on the cusp of greatness.

This should not be overlooked or forgotten.

petegz28 04-26-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14234354)
Just amazing how gleefully the local media outlets are working together to **** over the area's most popular team when it is on the cusp of greatness.

The water walking by 610 and 810 was sickening today. It's one thing to bash Reek and stand up against child abuse. It's another to start over playing it, telling stories about people you don't even know changing careers to be social workers or even blasing Andy Reid's personal life.

kcpasco 04-26-2019 06:51 PM

They are attacking Andy now?

NJChiefsFan 04-26-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14233802)
IF I WAS IN TYREEK'S CAMP THOUGH I WOULD SUGGEST HE CALLS A PRESS CONFERENCE OR DOES AN INTERVIEW AND JUST GIVE HIS SIDE OF THE STORY AND BE HONEST. IF HE IS INNOCENT AS HE SUGGESTS, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR HIS IMAGE TO LAY IT OUT AND THEN JUST TELL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO BECOMING A BETTER MAN AND A BETTER FATHER. I BELIEVE IT WOULD HELP TO TAKE SOME STEAM OUT OF THE SITUATION AND PUT LESS PRESSURE ON THE CHIEFS TOO.

Are you aware that when you make every word cap locks it is the same as making none cap locks? Like no words stand out in that paragraph. In fact it makes it less likely people are going to read it imo.

TEX 04-26-2019 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14234737)
The water walking by 610 and 810 was sickening today. It's one thing to bash Reek and stand up against child abuse. It's another to start over playing it, telling stories about people you don't even know changing careers to be social workers or even blasing Andy Reid's personal life.

Pretty disgusting.

mr. tegu 04-26-2019 09:35 PM

Chiefs suspended Tyreek Hill
 
I’m just going to restate some of what I have been saying. Hill clearly is not good with this woman (or perhaps any) and has issues with anger, control, and dominance. He also seems to have different views on parenting and has a lack of understanding of the impact he is having if he does get as excessive as it sounds like he might. Though it still doesn’t sound like he thinks belt usage or other force is bad in itself, and it’s important to understand that we don’t know how he might utilize it or the context. I know that can be frustrating though. So when considering circumstances of abuse, that aren’t from malice or neglect, but from poor upbringing or just getting too physical or underestimating the damage your discipline and punishment can do physically and psychologically, how do we respond? The knee jerk response seems to mostly be to one of completely destroying the person, personally, publicly, and professionally. But is that really right? Should every case automatically result in jail, loss of children forever, or loss of employment? Is there no gray area that we can operate in without being accused of protecting or defending abusers?

Hill needs to change but it also represents a larger issue with parenting in that many cultures and countries view things differently than one another. Normal is a very relative and tenuous term.

So how do you counter the poor parenting tactics in someone on an individual level in someone who does seem to perhaps think their intentions are good? You have to convince him that what he learned as a child wasn’t okay despite his likely beliefs that it helped him, therefore it should help his son. You will undoubtedly get resistance in the form of it shouldn’t be others business or not wanting to change just to please others. He is probably sorry his child was severely hurt whether directly or indirectly caused by him, but he still won’t see that as abuse as others might.

Hill probably needs major cognitive restructuring. He needs to find other ways to be confident and satisfied that his kid respects him and is learning so Hill doesn’t confuse fear with respect. He probably needs help seeing his son’s typical 3 year old behaviors (not listening, crying, etc) are not unacceptable misbehaviors or a sign that his kid is disrespecting him or is somehow failing him personally. If it’s evident he doesn’t morally or personally see anything wrong with his forms of excessive discipline then you have to show how if for nothing else to be able to be more employable he has to change behaviors (not even values) so he can provide for his kids.

There are just countless more hurdles and scenarios I could keep rattling off. All of these are part of the recovery process when involved with CPS or for any person with these sorts of identified issues. He has a right to try to get better and improve and identify the underlying causes contributing to his excessive anger and outbursts towards those close him with the hope that one day he will be a good father. His best option is probably to acknowledge his shortcomings (even if he doesn’t believe they are) and make a commitment to being a better father while still denying he ever did anything out of malice or intent to physically harm and maintaining that he will do whatever it takes to regain custody.

People won’t like it, but ultimately, if possible, the best thing for the family is that the parents both improve themselves as people, even if it means separating, and most importantly of all, improve themselves as parents. That is the best outcome, and something I think people are way to eager to take off the table.

BrownRice 04-27-2019 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14233726)
The GF said tyreek was down stairs "getting on" the child when the injury happened. Hill said he did nothing but never explained the broken arm.

The child didn't fall while playing

Yes. And it just dawned on me what she was trying to prove with that tape. She completely removed herself from the scene of the crime. She placed herself upstairs, telling the child he needed to go back down there or it’d just be worse for him if he didn’t. She made it clear they had walked upstairs. And then the child walked back down. Hill agreed. He 100% ruled her out as a suspect.

What she also proved though, by telling the child why he should go back downstairs, is that she willingly sent him downstairs to possibly face a lesser punishment than what is the “norm”, and she doesn’t GAF about her child. She sent him off alone to face whatever impending doom she thought he might suffer. Endangering the health, safety, and well being of her toddler. Who then wound up with a broken arm.

Where do they sell pitchforks?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-27-2019 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownRice (Post 14235889)
Yes. And it just dawned on me what she was trying to prove with that tape. She completely removed herself from the scene of the crime. She placed herself upstairs, telling the child he needed to go back down there or it’d just be worse for him if he didn’t. She made it clear they had walked upstairs. And then the child walked back down. Hill agreed. He 100% ruled her out as a suspect.

What she also proved though, by telling the child why he should go back downstairs, is that she willingly sent him downstairs to possibly face a lesser punishment than what is the “norm”, and she doesn’t GAF about her child. She sent him off alone to face whatever impending doom she thought he might suffer. Endangering the health, safety, and well being of her toddler. Who then wound up with a broken arm.

Where do they sell pitchforks?

So who’s fault is it?

PAChiefsGuy 04-27-2019 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14234592)
Like partying in a motel off 87th & 435 with Neil Smith and a bunch of hoochie women doing cocaine?

NEVER!

Dont see a big deal with this. His body, his choice. If he wants to do drugs who gives a shit.

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 04-27-2019 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14235570)
I’m just going to restate some of what I have been saying. Hill clearly is not good with this woman (or perhaps any) and has issues with anger, control, and dominance. He also seems to have different views on parenting and has a lack of understanding of the impact he is having if he does get as excessive as it sounds like he might. Though it still doesn’t sound like he thinks belt usage or other force is bad in itself, and it’s important to understand that we don’t know how he might utilize it or the context. I know that can be frustrating though. So when considering circumstances of abuse, that aren’t from malice or neglect, but from poor upbringing or just getting too physical or underestimating the damage your discipline and punishment can do physically and psychologically, how do we respond? The knee jerk response seems to mostly be to one of completely destroying the person, personally, publicly, and professionally. But is that really right? Should every case automatically result in jail, loss of children forever, or loss of employment? Is there no gray area that we can operate in without being accused of protecting or defending abusers?

Hill needs to change but it also represents a larger issue with parenting in that many cultures and countries view things differently than one another. Normal is a very relative and tenuous term.

So how do you counter the poor parenting tactics in someone on an individual level in someone who does seem to perhaps think their intentions are good? You have to convince him that what he learned as a child wasn’t okay despite his likely beliefs that it helped him, therefore it should help his son. You will undoubtedly get resistance in the form of it shouldn’t be others business or not wanting to change just to please others. He is probably sorry his child was severely hurt whether directly or indirectly caused by him, but he still won’t see that as abuse as others might.

Hill probably needs major cognitive restructuring. He needs to find other ways to be confident and satisfied that his kid respects him and is learning so Hill doesn’t confuse fear with respect. He probably needs help seeing his son’s typical 3 year old behaviors (not listening, crying, etc) are not unacceptable misbehaviors or a sign that his kid is disrespecting him or is somehow failing him personally. If it’s evident he doesn’t morally or personally see anything wrong with his forms of excessive discipline then you have to show how if for nothing else to be able to be more employable he has to change behaviors (not even values) so he can provide for his kids.

There are just countless more hurdles and scenarios I could keep rattling off. All of these are part of the recovery process when involved with CPS or for any person with these sorts of identified issues. He has a right to try to get better and improve and identify the underlying causes contributing to his excessive anger and outbursts towards those close him with the hope that one day he will be a good father. His best option is probably to acknowledge his shortcomings (even if he doesn’t believe they are) and make a commitment to being a better father while still denying he ever did anything out of malice or intent to physically harm and maintaining that he will do whatever it takes to regain custody.

People won’t like it, but ultimately, if possible, the best thing for the family is that the parents both improve themselves as people, even if it means separating, and most importantly of all, improve themselves as parents. That is the best outcome, and something I think people are way to eager to take off the table.

One of the best posts I've read in a long while. You're awesome.

chargerstickum 04-27-2019 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14235570)
I’m just going to restate some of what I have been saying. Hill clearly is not good with this woman (or perhaps any) and has issues with anger, control, and dominance. He also seems to have different views on parenting and has a lack of understanding of the impact he is having if he does get as excessive as it sounds like he might. Though it still doesn’t sound like he thinks belt usage or other force is bad in itself, and it’s important to understand that we don’t know how he might utilize it or the context. I know that can be frustrating though. So when considering circumstances of abuse, that aren’t from malice or neglect, but from poor upbringing or just getting too physical or underestimating the damage your discipline and punishment can do physically and psychologically, how do we respond? The knee jerk response seems to mostly be to one of completely destroying the person, personally, publicly, and professionally. But is that really right? Should every case automatically result in jail, loss of children forever, or loss of employment? Is there no gray area that we can operate in without being accused of protecting or defending abusers?

Hill needs to change but it also represents a larger issue with parenting in that many cultures and countries view things differently than one another. Normal is a very relative and tenuous term.

So how do you counter the poor parenting tactics in someone on an individual level in someone who does seem to perhaps think their intentions are good? You have to convince him that what he learned as a child wasn’t okay despite his likely beliefs that it helped him, therefore it should help his son. You will undoubtedly get resistance in the form of it shouldn’t be others business or not wanting to change just to please others. He is probably sorry his child was severely hurt whether directly or indirectly caused by him, but he still won’t see that as abuse as others might.

Hill probably needs major cognitive restructuring. He needs to find other ways to be confident and satisfied that his kid respects him and is learning so Hill doesn’t confuse fear with respect. He probably needs help seeing his son’s typical 3 year old behaviors (not listening, crying, etc) are not unacceptable misbehaviors or a sign that his kid is disrespecting him or is somehow failing him personally. If it’s evident he doesn’t morally or personally see anything wrong with his forms of excessive discipline then you have to show how if for nothing else to be able to be more employable he has to change behaviors (not even values) so he can provide for his kids.

There are just countless more hurdles and scenarios I could keep rattling off. All of these are part of the recovery process when involved with CPS or for any person with these sorts of identified issues. He has a right to try to get better and improve and identify the underlying causes contributing to his excessive anger and outbursts towards those close him with the hope that one day he will be a good father. His best option is probably to acknowledge his shortcomings (even if he doesn’t believe they are) and make a commitment to being a better father while still denying he ever did anything out of malice or intent to physically harm and maintaining that he will do whatever it takes to regain custody.

People won’t like it, but ultimately, if possible, the best thing for the family is that the parents both improve themselves as people, even if it means separating, and most importantly of all, improve themselves as parents. That is the best outcome, and something I think people are way to eager to take off the table.


pfffffttttt!!!! this shitbag is a lost cause.

rabblerouser 04-27-2019 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14235570)
I’m just going to restate some of what I have been saying. Hill clearly is not good with this woman (or perhaps any) and has issues with anger, control, and dominance. He also seems to have different views on parenting and has a lack of understanding of the impact he is having if he does get as excessive as it sounds like he might. Though it still doesn’t sound like he thinks belt usage or other force is bad in itself, and it’s important to understand that we don’t know how he might utilize it or the context. I know that can be frustrating though. So when considering circumstances of abuse, that aren’t from malice or neglect, but from poor upbringing or just getting too physical or underestimating the damage your discipline and punishment can do physically and psychologically, how do we respond? The knee jerk response seems to mostly be to one of completely destroying the person, personally, publicly, and professionally. But is that really right? Should every case automatically result in jail, loss of children forever, or loss of employment? Is there no gray area that we can operate in without being accused of protecting or defending abusers?

Hill needs to change but it also represents a larger issue with parenting in that many cultures and countries view things differently than one another. Normal is a very relative and tenuous term.

So how do you counter the poor parenting tactics in someone on an individual level in someone who does seem to perhaps think their intentions are good? You have to convince him that what he learned as a child wasn’t okay despite his likely beliefs that it helped him, therefore it should help his son. You will undoubtedly get resistance in the form of it shouldn’t be others business or not wanting to change just to please others. He is probably sorry his child was severely hurt whether directly or indirectly caused by him, but he still won’t see that as abuse as others might.

Hill probably needs major cognitive restructuring. He needs to find other ways to be confident and satisfied that his kid respects him and is learning so Hill doesn’t confuse fear with respect. He probably needs help seeing his son’s typical 3 year old behaviors (not listening, crying, etc) are not unacceptable misbehaviors or a sign that his kid is disrespecting him or is somehow failing him personally. If it’s evident he doesn’t morally or personally see anything wrong with his forms of excessive discipline then you have to show how if for nothing else to be able to be more employable he has to change behaviors (not even values) so he can provide for his kids.

There are just countless more hurdles and scenarios I could keep rattling off. All of these are part of the recovery process when involved with CPS or for any person with these sorts of identified issues. He has a right to try to get better and improve and identify the underlying causes contributing to his excessive anger and outbursts towards those close him with the hope that one day he will be a good father. His best option is probably to acknowledge his shortcomings (even if he doesn’t believe they are) and make a commitment to being a better father while still denying he ever did anything out of malice or intent to physically harm and maintaining that he will do whatever it takes to regain custody.

People won’t like it, but ultimately, if possible, the best thing for the family is that the parents both improve themselves as people, even if it means separating, and most importantly of all, improve themselves as parents. That is the best outcome, and something I think people are way to eager to take off the table.

That's just downright...logical.

Maybe this suspension came along at a great time for Tyreek to get a new perspective. Let's hope he gets some help, and utilizes that help.


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