Probably the most underrated need on defense is a safety that can cover TE’s.

Watching brokedick Gronk look like prime Gronk disgusted me. We also struggled against the Dolphin’s TE’s in that game.

Not to mention Waller and the Raiders.

Yeeeeeeeeep.

**** bringing Sorensen back.

Ugh, yes. We haven't had someone who can 1-on-1 TEs since Eric Berry.

It'll be hard to find another guy like that, but we desperately need a tall, rangy mfer at safety.

Jamien Sherwood from Auburn would be a nice mid rounder that could play a similar role to Sorenson.

That’s an incredibly tough position to fill honestly. How many players in the league are capable of covering the best TE’s in the league?

I know for Kelce the only player I’ve seen completely shut him down was Derwin James.

Those guys are super rare

Coming off a relatively major injury, Fisher doesn’t hold all the leverage. Pending full and timely recovery, he may or may not be in the long term plans.

May be possible to extend him for say 1-2 additional year(s) and reduce his cap for 2012. With that, it could make it possible to sign a stop gap at LT for 1 year AND a draft someone to develop. That draftee could play at RT to audition for the LT.

Thankfully we took a RB last year in the first round with Jeremy Chinn on the board....;)

Finding a guy that can cover the leagues best TE’s is certainly hard.

Finding a guy that can cover brokedick Gronk and other average TE’s?

That shouldn’t be too difficult.

Hey, I was a huge fan of Jeremy Chinn and nobody was pounding the table for him like I was. I actually even had him on my short list at 32.

But he didn’t even come close to being a 1st rounder, so this is silly. But do you...

The goal isn’t to blanket every TE. The goal is to not to allow every TE to go off on you.

Also I think people need to be realistic here. I just don’t think tackle is on the list unless it’s later in the draft. They aren’t just gonna give up on Fisher when Schwartz is likely done.

I think the most realistic viewpoint here is that Reiter is going to get paid and the Chiefs will be taking a C early in the draft to go with Niang as new starters.

Once again. Who the **** is playing LT?

And don’t say Remmers. He can’t ****ing do it.

Fisher will be LT. He is not going anywhere.

Assuming we keep Fish, while he is recovering, maybe Niang at LT and Remmers at RT? When Fish is back, slide Niang to RT.

What are your thoughts on Yasir?

Who is playing LT while he recovers?

Fisher will be fine for the start of the season. Achilles injuries are no where near as bad as they were 20 years ago.

Can Allegretti play center? Didn’t he play some in the preseason after we drafted him?

I could possibly see that. All depends on how quickly Niang can come in, learn the offense, and get in football shape. He definitely has the talent to do it.

I don’t think Yasir is anything more than depth, but there’s a small chance he could become a starting G at some point.

He will be fine for the start of the season. Plenty if time to recover. I had an FHL transfer for my achilles and had full medical release at 6 weeks. Was in the gym the next day doing squats and running sprints.

They drafted him as a C, so it’s possible, but I have no clue whether they see him as the long term answer there or not.

I'm 90% sure I remember him taking snaps at C at some point. Can't remember when, though.

If they see him as the future.....maybe they put him at center and Rankin at LG.

I hope you're right, man. That would be awesome.

I would be curious to what repair method they did for fisher. if you are not squeamish look up FHL transfer. It is kind of interesting.

I was able to walk with a boot and no crutches less than two weeks post op. No boot at 4 weeks and full medical release at 6.

Jesus ****, bro.

A. I'm definitely squeamish
B. I still looked it up
C. I was fine until they cut the heel
D. I almost fainted at that point

lol... If Fisher was a speedster or a basketball player I would not be confident he could be ready for the season. Since he isn't either he should be fine. Might lack a little drive off that leg but completely manageable.

No one can know that for sure. Everyone heals differently.

What is the contingency if he does not heal fully next season? Does the team feel comfortable putting trust in Niang as the LT starter or even as a stop gap? What is the contingency if Niang sucks or gets hurt?

It would not surprise me to see Niang at LT with Remmers at RT

He's in the last year of his contract. All he has to do is tell them "no" when they ask him to give them cap relief.

He has ALL the leverage.

I agree.

They're going to sign a 1-year stop-gap at some point.

Your day 1 starting LT will probably be Remmers or Rankin or whoever they sign.

They're not going to kick Fisher to the curb. I wish they could start fresh but it's not going to happen.

We know what Remmers is. I’d rather see Rankin start until Fisher is healthy.

Don't know why people think anything of Rankin other than always injured. He was injured with the Texans. He has been here and injured both years here. I just don't see why there is anything for him.

It would surprise me because Remmers was ass.

At LT he was, but he was adequate at RT.

The guy hadn’t played LT in several years. It was just a disaster.

I still wouldn’t want him starting at RT in the playoffs though.

Sure he could, but there are benefits to him signing a +1 year extension. It allows him to recover in 2021 (at a reduced rate / reduced playing time) and then get paid in 2022 in the added contract year.

A team may not be willing to pay him his full value in 2022 if he cannot fully recover in 2021.

He doesn’t have ANY leverage if he can’t make it on the field...

Achilles recovery is typically 9 months for athletes.

Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles in 2011 and was back on the field in 5 months.

I'm telling myself penguinz is 100% spot on. :D

That would be great. I hope that is true. But again, not everyone heals the same. And even at 9 months recovery, he misses about half the season by my calculation.

According to Ortho websites that is not completely accurate. The mean of 71 NFL players was 339 days to recover to the field with 26% to 39% not returning to the field at all.

well this would be a preferred spot for a guy like Jason Peters. He'll be cheap, he could fill in anywhere in a pinch, he wants another ring. If you're not relying on him to start 16 games, but to be a swing tackle/6th man, that'd be great.

Yep. He is a ZERO player. Cut him. He is the exact suck- ass- often- injured player that he was in Houston. A 3rd round BUST (if there is such a thing) who is a never-was. I have no clue what the Chiefs see in this turd.

Here's something interesting: I just looked up Rankin's draft profile from 2018. It says that Rankin would struggle at LT with speed (yup) and might struggle in the run game at RT against typically stouter players at that end. It says that the further inside he plays, the better he'll be, and even projects him as a Center....his comparable being Justin Britt.

I am making no judgements, just thought that was an interesting scouting report.

You have to look at the position the player is as well. Someone on the D or Oline will not need anywhere near as much recovery time as a WR or RB.

I have experience with this injury. Fisher is much younger than i was when I had achilles reconstruction and he has more time and motivation to put to nothing but rehab.

He should be ready for the start of the season.

Better be the OL. We cant win if Mahomes is running around for his life 500 yards a game behind the line of scrimmage. Eventually hes going to get a concussion or a season ending injury.

We should be able to get a WR who will take less money to get a chance at a SB ring and play with Mahomes.

He proved how worthless he is at both Tackle positions in Houston. He did not suck as bad for his limited stint at G in KC. Maybe he can play in a phone booth? Maybe THAT is what the Chiefs see in him? However, true to his nature, he got injured - and THAT is who this guy is. Not wise to count on him for anything long term.

He was drafted in 2018, and we've had him for two years.

I mean, I don't think it's fair to say that his nature is to be injured. I DO think he's proven that he's not LT material.

I have a feeling we find someone in FA at the WR spot relatively cheap then draft some linemen

I think you got that backward. These guys are 300 lbs and are being pushed on by other 300 pounders while they are digging in and putting all that pressure on the Achilles.

Never liked Rankin as a tackle. Thought when we got him he had a chance to be a decent guard.

Jason Peters tore his Achilles twice in 2012 but played all 16 games in 2013.

It's far more serious for wide receivers and running backs than offensive lineman.

He was the Chiefs best left guard in 2019, while stuck playing next to Cam Erving.

I don't understand why people want to "develop" draftees but continue to say that Rankin "sucks" because of his brief time with the Texans, as if he hasn't "developed" in the time he's been in KC.

Weird.

The only question I have is why start Allegretti at LG over Rankin this season then.

The guy has play 5 total games for the Chiefs. He played 5 total games for the Texans.

THAT is for certain. He was tried at RT too, but was terrible. I just know when he was in Houston, he was ALWAYS hurt. Nagging injuries. Even if he wasn't listed on the injury report, it was revealed later that he was "hurt" or "couldn't go." That's exactly what's happened to him in KC. Anyway, I suppose we'll see...

What's the point of this post?

He was on the PUP list and wasn't activated until November 10th.

I have no idea if the guy is worth two shits at this point but if he can't beat out Wisniewski, Wylie or Remmers, his future doesn't look too bright.

I get your point, and you're certainly more right around here than I am with most things... Here's why it's not weird to me when talking about THIS guy. He "sucks" to me because I saw how bad he was with the Texans. He also "sucks" to me because he's one of those guys who is never available because he can't stay healthy. He's also sucks to me because he had poor work ethic in Houston and several players flat out called him out on it. That's why I personally think he sucks. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.

Best LG but only played in 4 games. There in lies, the biggest problem dude has a huge injury problem. No one can develop when they can't play more than 4 or 5 games in a season. This is 3 years in a row. If he could not beat out the scrubs playing all over this OL he has serious troubles.

He ruptured it twice in March and May of 2012. Coming back to play in 2013 isn't all that remarkable considering that's well over a year of rehab time.

He started 5 games at Left Guard in 2019 and started 1 game at Left Tackle in 2020, against the Chargers.

It's contrary to what some people are saying about recovery and performance after an Achilles tear because the guy is still in the league at age 39.

Fisher will be fine.

Seriously, STFU , I have experience with this injury. I know what I am talking about.

You’re absolutely wrong about this.

He has no reason to accept a deal like that right now if he's confident he can recover.

Nice to see you are an asshole.
I am taking the information from a strength and conditioning coach that use to work for the Chiefs that says just the opposite. He was recently on with BJ Kissel and Nick Leckey Podcast and stated what I posted.

We need a new LT and RT. End of story.

And you just explained why he is a former strength coach.

...and if he (or more importantly his doctor) is not confident?

Well, if Veach and Reid feel like Fisher can come back and play well at some point then that would change things a bit. You could sign Peters to hold the fort and hope for the best. Pencil in Niang at RT. RE-sign Remmers as super-sub/insurance policy.

Still need a Center. Maybe a LG.

I'd probably nab Britt if he's healthy. Osemele if he can go, if not, Alegretti and Rankin can fight it out.

By December with some luck maybe we're in decent shape. Bad luck and we're ****ed.

Hope they'll be way more proactive than that.

way more?

It would be four new starters over the Super Bowl squad.

with a couple of drafted guys that may or may not start, with cheap veterans to hold the fort until they're ready.

We literally don't have the cap room to do much more.

Yeah, no. I'm not too excited about the prospect of Peters and Britt being the big additions and letting the scrubs fight it out.

Nobody is really going to know until probably the summer.

His deal has to be re-done well before then.

Yup

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He now owns his own Rehab center in Kansas City.

That does not mean he is an expert in Achilles reconstruction and recovery.

Simms knows what he's talking about.

That's just the thing, what more can they do?

With the Fisher situation being in limbo, it's going to somewhat hamstring what they can do both in the draft and in free agency.