The international draft has been discussed in collective bargaining going back to the 1990s, so it's definitely not a secret. Owners have been proposing it in all of their offers. That's true.

I think the MLBPA did a poor job of communicating this to its constituents, especially the Latin players. Once the Latin players got wind of it, the union was stuck in the mud.

On the flip side, the small market owners agreed to up go in CBT and arbitration pool with the knowledge that they would be getting an international draft. Now that the MLBPA has soured on it, they're having cold feet about going through with this deal.

I’m curious as to what your ideas are and I’m not even trolling because I 100% agree with you…

I go back and watch random 90s highlights/games on YouTube and that’s the baseball I miss….not even talking about the roid era. Pitchers that could actually PITCH and work a count, zone, and had more than a fastball and slider. Basesteali g, defense, guys hitting for average, strategy, all along with your power guys, etc.

Not to mention how many teams, lineups, superstars, and even managers were recognizable and known…

Oh and analytics have killed what’s great about the game too….

And the national baseball writers are basically the equivalent of Russian state media these days, in lockstep with the players, always sticking to the script, refusing to even mention cap/floor. I’m really really sick of those guys. They’re doing as much to destroy the game they love as anyone else.

That’s the problem…no one is at the wheel & it’s heading for a cliff about ready to do a Thelma & Louise.

MLB/MLBPA are killing the game.


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While I think the writers are despicable for their obvious biases, the salary cap is a waste of time. It's not even a practical solution.

Just like five-year free agency is a non-starter for the owners, the salary cap is never being considered by the MLBPA unless attitudes change over generations.

The owners would have shut down the season over five-year free agency and the players did the same in 1994-95 over the salary cap.

I said it earlier in this thread but so much about the game would be corrected overnight if we moved the fences back even 10 feet and eliminated cheap power. I went over the various impacts it would have; I can provide the link to the post if you're interested. Bottom line is that bigger OFs require faster OFers and hitters have to really 'earn' their homers so they'll do more to take advantage of those big power alleys. And with faster players on the field, you'll see more baserunning.

I absolutely love the idea of allowing the DH only when the starting pitcher is in the game. This will encourage organizations to teach their SPs to get deeper into the games and maybe encourage leaving them out there to face the order a 3rd time through. If pitchers aren't taught to just fire fastballs past guys and instead try to work on pitch efficiency, suddenly you have more active IFs and OFers as well.

Curtail the shift at least to where IFers have to stay on the IF. If hitters are rewarded more for putting the ball in play, they'll make a more concerted effort to do so. Additionally, eliminating the shift takes more sub-standard fielders off the field because you can't hide them through shifting them. Now you have even more athletically gifted players on the infield to go with having more athletic OFers.

I like the idea of making the bases a little bit bigger, again to encourage more baserunning and more contact so that more guys can steal and/or beat out IF squibbers. Think of how many bang/bang plays there are on SBs. Now make the bases 4 inches wider. That gives the runner 8 inches to work with and that's a HUGE difference.

I need to see more data on moving the mound. The math checks out but the results over a mere month haven't given us enough information. But barring moving the mound, start enforcing the top of the strike zone or maybe even bring it down a tick (even half a baseball would make a big difference; but a full ball wouldn't bother me any). Guys throw so damn hard that expecting hitters to just be able to catch up to 98 at the letters when you can just start throwing a half dozen fresh relievers at them each game is nuts. Bring the zone down a little so that high fastballs aren't a death sentence.

Additionally, you'll now make curveballs that much more effective because they typically work well when they encourage hitters to swing before they dive down in the zone. If hitters are seeing more 'hittable' pitches up, they'll start offering at them more and be fooled by that curve more as well. So that will bring back that big overhand curve that is just damn nice when done well. The problem is that it's really a feel pitch whereas you can just grip and rip a slider. And with the slider tunneling off the fastball, there's just very little utility in trying to learn a good curve when the slider's equally effective and a hell of a lot easier. Suddenly if the high fastball isn't quite as effective, the curve may be a necessary weapon to keep guys honest. You'll also, due to the changes made w/ the DH above, encourage the return of the good ol' fashion sinkerballer that works down the zone and looks for soft contact.

So now you have more athletes on the field, more action on the bases, a broader variety of pitchers that can succeed. You'll see fewer injuries because these pitchers aren't going max-effort on every delivery anymore. I think changing the options and service time rules to that teams aren't encouraged to bring up middle-tier arms from the minors and just churn and burn them until they blow up will be good for the sport and the players. Again, just taking one more area where guys are just throwing as goddamn hard as they can and limiting it a tick.

If you have fields that are geographically incapable of moving the fences back for some reason, deaden the ball there. I think Fenway is the primary example I can think of, but there may be a couple others. And even Fenway could do it if they'd get rid of the Monster seats. They won't do it voluntarily, but it could be foisted onto them.

And then again - just put in a hard revenue split with ceilings and floors for team spending. And robust revenue sharing. Baseball has 'parity' in its champions because it's a random ass sport, not because teams are truly on any sort of level playing field. Fix that. A sport cannot thrive with this kind of have/have not setup.

I promise to be a benevolent God.

I'll return the league to The Golden Path.

Just trust me. I've got this.

I'm all for this idea but I just don't see it being implemented.

Even the so called newer pitcher's parks -- AT&T Park, Petco Park, Citi Field -- have moved their fences in. AT&T and Petco both had these extreme triples alleys and the Giants and Padres reduced their effect by bringing in the fences.

The worst part is I think today's hitters are so spoiled. They think they're entitled to a certain amount of home runs. Any story about a tough HR ballpark is usually written about in the press by a hitter complaining about the dimensions. I remember when the Padres moved into Petco and Phil Nevin complained all the time about the atmospheric conditions not playing favorably to power hitters.

The players today don't know the precedent of the game, when old Yankee Stadium was 399 to left-center, old Tiger Stadium was 440 feet to center, Polo Grounds was 483 feet to center, Forbes Field was 360 to LF, 462 to the deepest corner, 442 to CF and 376 to RF.

It would be great if baseball went back to its roots with more expansive outfields of grass but this generation of player hasn't been conditioned to accept a 15-home run season even though the metrics we have will still rate them favorably with park effects.

Interesting ideas….sound rad, I’m down.

And this is why an MLB competition committee doesn't ask them - it tells them they will do so.

I don't care if this means mandating field sizes. How does it make one damn bit of sense that every team plays on a different sized field? Name a sport that does that other than baseball.

A guy like Joey Gallo is the poster child for the "allow the shift, learn to go oppo, idiot!" crowd. But here's the thing, Joey Gallo is an elite defensive player. And has genuine light tower power. That's the sort of player you should WANT in this game. If you move the fences back, you get rid of a bunch of wall-scrapers from guys like Marcus Semien and his average HR distance of 365 ft, but you get rid of the shift and start making rules to create more contact and you trade those Semien wall-scrapers for big damn majestic bombs from Joey Gallo.

I'm not anti-power. I'm anti-cheap power. I want baseball to have room for a guy like Joey Gallo who hits friggen blasts and plays outstanding defense. I don't want to trade the Jay Bruce's of the world for more Nick Castellanos with his shitty defense and half of his homers being a result of generous dimensions.

There are good, fun players being squeezed out by the easy power in this game and sooner or later, when the homerun is just commonplace, MLB isn't going to have anywhere else to turn because the 'high' of the homer will have faded.

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If the owners can't find a way to share revenue so small market teams don't have to tank for windows, and can keep their homegrown stars, they're going to keep bleeding fans like me.

I agree with you about Joey Gallo getting short changed on his perception vs. what he is actually is. He's a fun player to watch. He was arguably as good as anyone in baseball in 2019 during a two-month stretch.

Who are some of the fun players you see getting squeezed out? I think in the early days of Moneyball, we had some non-athletes holding down some more premium positions like 2B or corner OF spots they shouldn't have been because OBP and SLG took precedence, but I think now with the Statcast, teams are very cognizant of measuring foot speed, range and outfield routes to the baseball.

It seems like there's a premium being placed on athleticism and defense, too. There are still some defense-oriented players like Harrison Bader, Michael A. Taylor, Isiah Kiner-Falefa, Nicky Lopez and J.P. Crawford.

I think what the sport is lacking are contact hitters that are stars (Ichiro Suzuki, Tony Gwynn, Rod Carew). Most of them are supporting cast players like David Fletcher, Luis Arraez or fringe players like Willans Astudillo.

And the other thing the sport is lacking are dynamic base stealers. There's not that true rabbit anymore. Actually, it's amazing that a 30s aged player in Whit Merrifield led the majors with 40 steals last year but he's an outlier because most decent base runners curtail their running by the time they get to age 28, 29. Even with the larger bags, I just don't see it making a huge impact toward more steals. The teams don't want to risk outs.

I think baseball should have room for guys like both Joey Gallo AND Jarrod Dyson to thrive. Michael A. Taylor was on his way out of the league until the Royals, who have the park that allows him to showcase his skills, gave him a shot.

And no, I don't want a league full of guys like either of them. But I want a league where both types of players, as equally flawed players, are equally valuable players.

And if that means putting your thumb on the scale - so be it. I get that stealing 100 bases while getting thrown out 50 times isn't efficient - but what can we do to change that? Because man, seeing some dude who's a threat to take off every single time he's on 1b is just awesome. Royals fans know how much fun it was every time they sent Terrance Gore out there to pinch run.

I'm just so tired of everything in baseball being viewed through the lens of raw data. And this is someone who, I honestly believe, 20 years ago was further along on stats/data than many MLB teams. I actually did my methodology class project on what leads to run scoring in baseball back in 2002. I'm a huge stats/numbers guy.

But ****ing hell it's taken a lot of joy out of the sport. Baseball needed to modernize and realize that many of the things they valued weren't actually all that important. That was a huge step forward. Now it's important that they look at the game, find what's fun and see what they can do to MAKE it important. Make those aspects more valuable.

Or they'll just die a slow death. This sport absolutely cannot afford to lose fans like me. And it's happening.

Just let em start roiding again. They're probably going to need it.

Analytics isn't the problem - but it DOES tell you the problem. Analytics have effectively told us that bad/boring baseball is what wins games.
You can only change what you have control over. And so...while DJ'sLN is generally doing good work in this thread, I'd like to disagree on the point about the fences. To me, the more controllable thing is the ball. Find the most standard, least juiced ball from the last 30 years...bring the seams back up to size and watch the cheap home runs go away.

When you take cheap home runs away, the hitter can then work towards the obvious advantage the pitchers have with the non-juiced ball and start learning other techniques for hitting besides bombs-away. Maybe even a revival of the Walt Hriniak approach to putting the ball in play. Over all, I also love the shorter base path made by the larger bases, shift-banning and finally, the institution of robo-ump behind the plate so that we can stop making the game about the pathetic low-life umps that enter god-mode and squeeze the pitchers, just because they can. Give pitchers their corners and edges and guys will start learning new ways to get the ball into play.

This sounds like a version of Whitey ball. There weren't a lot of home runs but it was way more exciting baseball than the current version. Let the millennial see this type of baseball and see if MLB can stop its slow decline with the public.

Baseball today has become a strikeout, a walk, or a home run.

I have largely shifted to watching softball because it is a swift moving game, and the ball is put in play.

Again, I don't disagree that a deadened ball is an easier alternative.

But remember - I'm a benevolent God Emperor here.

The problem with just deadening the ball is that it also slows balls hit in play and on smaller fields, those still become outs. And frankly, I don't want to 'rob' hitters on hard contact. Nor do I want to do anything to make it easier for fielders - I want those guys to be badass to do the job.

So a deadened ball doesn't just stop homers, it makes hard ground balls less hard so it gives IFers another step. It takes balls that may have hit and run into a gap slow down so fielders can cut them off. It's the easy way to kill cheap power, but it's not the best way because it doesn't come with the ancillary benefits of creating more grass. More grass means wider gaps and more baserunning. It means OFers have to decide if they're going to play in on balls and risk having liners hit over them off the fence or if they're going to play back and cede those line drives that they may have had a play on.

It's just a better way of doing it. And ballparks don't sell out anymore anyway until the post-season. Nor are those premium seats anywhere but Fenway. So the owners shouldn't have a problem with it (invariably they will).

I'm not saying that un-juicing the balls doesn't have some merit. I'm just saying that it's an artificial way to get a watered-down version of the results I'm looking for.

Like I said earlier - close to that, but I don't need it all the way to Whitey's Rugburners era.

I'm not against homers. They just can't be commonplace. Right now MLB is 'chasing the high' of homeruns and soon 40 homerun seasons won't be good enough, they'll need 50. Then 60. Then we'll be looking for ways to bring back the steroid era until homers just don't mean anything anymore.

The way to keep homers exciting isn't more of them, it's fewer of them.

Like I said earlier:

The guys that hit bombs should be hitting bombs. I want the Ohtani's and Tatis's of the world with those majestic rocket shots to be truly exceptional. The game is just worse when someone like Marcus Semien can hang with those guys. Ian Happ is just a perfect example of the kind of guy that we should be looking to get out of the game. A league full of guys living off 370 ft homers while striking out 160 times and batting .225 while playing shitty defense anywhere you put him makes this game worse in every conceivable way.

In my world, Ian Happ isn't a big leaguer anymore and a guy like Kolten Wong never struggles for a second to get a halfway decent contract.

The MLBPA came back today and agreed to work out how an international draft would work by July 25 and if they cant agree then the QO remains in effect.

:LOL::facepalm:

****ing morons. You had 2 years with no QO to make those same decisions and now you don't. But the league got tired of your bullshit and gave you the deal on the table and said take it or leave and you left it.

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Good for the owners.

Start taking shit off the table every hour it doesn't get done. These MLBPA has WILDLY overplayed their hands. I'm guessing that when the union started seeing articles come out last night blaming THEM for the impasse, they realized the same.

"Good Faith" efforts, indeed.

Funny what happens when the press is merely being unfair to the owners instead of being a straight up propaganda arm of the MLBPA like they have been for the previous weeks. They started backing down after about 6 hours of press that was still slanted in their favor, just not as egregiously.

The MLBPA can eat all the dicks.

Why is there a distinction of an International draft vs a domestic draft? I've never understood that. All players should be in the same player pool to attempt to make the same amount of money. That is the most fair way to do it. There is just one draft in the NBA. Seems to work just fine.

International Game wasn't the pipeline it's become back when the entry draft started.

Then when it became a pipeline, teams didn't want them subject to the draft because it was an area where smart ballclubs could hoard talent under the radar and without having to 'wait their turn' via a draft. And they were relatively cheap.

Now teams are having to throw a LOT of money at them and it had become something of a wild wild west that managed to stay largely apart from the regulation the rest of MLB's 'talent procurement' processes were subject to.

They should just let Gambini get the deal done at this point.

Sounds like it should be a regular draft. Everyone should get drafted together, then. International and domestically.

Just going to dilute the product and money.

How is it fair to a latin kid who will get peanuts thrown at him but some HS senior with a big arm gets 10M more?

Everything should be in the same draft.

Not having them in the same draft - or an international draft - makes ball clubs be able to take advantage of cheap labor and exploit the latin player market.

The international draft that is proposed starts with $5.5M slot money which is equivalent to pick 6 in the regular draft so I'm not exactly sure where you are getting your numbers from.

On the whole international players would be getting MORE money with the proposed draft. Just removing the corruption found in the current signing period where kids already have agreements with teams under the table long before they sign and taking a little bit of the money from the very top and spreading it around to the rest of the field of prospects.

I understand what you're getting at, but taking the ball back to a prior era PLUS the banning of shifts will actually create more than an off-set effect. The guys who just hammer the ball to the pull side will have no problem with a prior ball. The light hitters will be the ones that suffer...which is parallel to your point on no cheap home runs - no cheap shots through the infield holes or into the gap. Light hitters go back to being who they are.

Sounds like they are getting close.

The MLB lockout thread
 

Latest MLB proposal, per source:

Luxury-tax thresholds - $230M to $244M over course of five-year deal. (increase of $2M in final year from last offer)

Pre-arb pool: $50M (increase of $10M)

Minimum salaries, $700K to $780K. (increase of $10K in final year)

3 p.m. “deadline.”

CBT thresholds remain an issue, as they always have been, but gap has narrowed. MLBPA last known: $232m-$250m. MLB $230m-$242m (and could change today). On accounting: does new prearb pool $ count? MLB wants player stipends for ASG, Derby, special events (int’l play) to count too


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Team votes are coming on now (delivered by player reps) and so far they are in favor. So far players are going against the executive council.


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The MLB lockout thread
 

BREAKING: Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association have reached a tentative agreement on a new labor deal, sources tell ESPN. While it still needs to be ratified by both parties, that is expected to be a formality, and when it is:

Baseball is back.

Players vote is 26-12 in favor. Baseball will be back!

Union executive board vote was 8-0 against the MLB proposal but teams voted 26-4 in favor of it, carrying the day, Unusual that the general player population goes so far against player leadership.


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Thanks for missing two weeks of games Scott Boras you ****ing ass.

And for what? What was gained causing the missed games?

Hope the MLB didn't capitulate to the awful MLBPA.

Seemingly not a goddamn thing.

I guess they probably kept the shift ban in there somewhere and the universal DH that could've actually been GOOD for the sport if properly implemented and instead it's just going to be one more place to stick a big lumbering dickhead who can't run, won't field and swings really hard in the hopes he makes contact.

Hopefully we get a international draft done, but with how the PA has been I really doubt it.

I'll be interested to see what exactly they did for service time manipulation. I'm hoping not much, because it's just something that screws the small markets.

With the lockout over, the rush to sign free agents is on.

The coming days should be, in the words of one executive, “bedlam.” With that in mind, we canvassed our beat writers to see where the best players still on the market will go.

Who will land Freddie Freeman?


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Will local baseball be on the local over the air channels? nope

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB, MLBPA agree to negotiate on international draft until July 25. Draft pick compensation will be removed if they agree by then to remove it. Status quo on international entry and draft compensation if no deal by then. The union says it is awaiting a counterproposal from MLB.</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1501957604611956740?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good, I wanted a ballpark funnel cake this year.

A few games will be on FOX.

On my scorecard, union got very good deal.

$230M CBT threshold in ‘22 (9% rise), $700K minimum (23% rise), $50M bonus pool (new money). Qualifying Offer likely goes away (assuming World Draft is agreed to), universal DH, draft lottery, full service time for RoY, more.


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tHe OwNeRs DoN't wAnT tO pLaY bAsEbAlL iN aPrIlL!!!!!

Wish the pitch clock and shift van were both in effect this season but I’ll take it…

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The executive subcommittee is mostly Boras clients. Looks like the rank-and-file outvoted them.

The MLBPA executive board voting unanimously against the CBA which is made up of 63% Scott Boras clients and the rest of the vote going 26-4 in favor of the CBA tells you everything you need to know.

Also should raise eyebrows and offer some hope that the current union could be effectively busted up in favor of a PA that actually represents the rank-and-file. We will see.

Nononononono.

This wasn't super agents trying to protect their meal tickets. Noooooooo.

It was unreasonable owners that didn't want to play baseball in April.

KCN told me so.

Guess who didn't need Ken Rosenthal to tell him what was completely obvious if you were paying any attention at all and not just swallowing anything fed to you by the sports 'media'.

<----------- This guy right here.

Still insane to me how badly the sportswriters misrepresented what was going on in this process. And how eager some people were to believe it.

They should cut the Spring Training down to one-week instead of whatever the hell it is now. Did any of that crap change?

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I'm fine taking the L here for the greater good (the Jays project to be one of the best teams in the league this year after all). Although, despite the MLBPA executive board not having the necessary support in the end from the rank-and-file, I'd still maintain that the delay the owners engaged in over the past few months suggested they didn't particularly care if the season started on time.

MLB reaches labor deal agreement with players union and Opening Day is set for April 7

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/sport...spt/index.html

No. It's a trade off. In your ultimate effort to neuter an agent-driven representative sub-committee and create a schism with the top 1% and the rank and file...you gladly choose to be OK with starting the season late. It's insane to say they didn't care about starting on time unless you're saying they didn't care when considering the bigger picture goals.

Hate hate hate 12 team and expanded playoffs. That is just a great way for me to not care about your post season. I don't even care about NBA playoffs until the conference finals. Now I won't care about the MLB until the NLCS and ALCS. Why play a 162 game schedule when you are just gonna let so many teams in?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One interesting nugget in the new agreement: Starting in 2023, the schedule will feature fewer divisional games, and every team will play at least one series against every other opponent, including in the other league. The exact format is still being determined.</p>&mdash; Jared Diamond (@jareddiamond) <a href="https://twitter.com/jareddiamond/status/1502062106862137351?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is great. Well maybe not for Royals fans, but AL East teams have been getting screwed by the unbalanced schedule for years.

That's what I'm saying. It was tactical, and to their credit, it worked.

With the expanded postseason and universal DH, the league is just a little bit worse than it was a year ago.

Nothing of any consequence from a gameplay perspective was addressed.

Great work, guys.

I'm disappointed so many of you root for the Royals. I've always considered the Royals to be completely classless.

Hey dickhead, you are on a KANSAS city chiefs message board, with a god damn Chiefs hat on your dog..and you hate the Royals? Go **** ya self

Royals maybe shit, but they are our shit.

The Royals are not like the Chiefs. The Royals are the Raiders. Here's something a Raider/Royal would do:

-throw a pitch at the head of the best player ever, just cause he's the best player ever (this follows prison logic of fighting the biggest dude in the prison)

-have it backfire (like when Raiders fans happen by the George Brett statue after dark) by Trout hitting a hard liner back up the middle like the best player of all time might do with any pitch, yours or anyone else's, Yordan.

-then charge at Mike Trout, trying to instigate a brawl, because, and I kid you not "he hit that ball back at me on purpose".

**** the Royals and **** the Raiders. The Chiefs and Angels are cool though.

RIP to Yordan but he was a coward and he personified the Royals. The Chiefs are not like that team at all.

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The MLB lockout thread
 

Sources: Freddie Freeman negotiations expected to reach a conclusion in next 24 hours and possibly by the end of tonight. Dodgers have made a strong offer, and it is unclear if the Braves will match it.

Context on Dodgers and Freddie Freeman:
He is represented by the same agency as Clayton Kershaw, who just agreed to a new contract with the team, as first reported by Ken Rosenthal.

Universal DH also provides flexibility to have Freeman/Muncy/JT in same lineups.


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Royal my balls

Hey fraud. Im not here trying to pimp a broke dick website that had shit odds when I was in college. In Russia.

You can take your weak ass affiliate game back to the late 90s you relic.

I had respect for you. I invited you into a club. Call it the masons.jk.

I had high hopes for you, coca cola fan. You lowered yourself.

Sorry willie im sure your mom loves you. Next time dont stress with a real baseball fan, a real gambler. Im not your mark, shiny as your shoes might be.

Welp, now that we're an Internet-only home because Google Fiber dropped their TV service/offering, it's going to be fun to see how much it's going to dig into what we're saving to watch our Royals on TV...

Banning extreme shifts won’t affect the game?

I don't believe it goes into effect until 2023.

2022 is just gonna be the same ol' shit product we got in 2021. Too many teams in the post-season creating too little incentive to improve your squad. Too few balls in play. Too many mediocre athletes on the field. Too many teams not even attempting to compete.

If you're going to burn this much goodwill with the fans, you might as well come back with a better product than they got in 2021.

The two sides got together, spent 2 months throwing darts at each other and will present the fans with the same staid, boring, aesthetically appalling garbage game they gave them last season.

You can now be a real baseball fan somewhere else.

Lol whut...I still sign up ppl but my website is poker driven. Almost everyone that sign up plays poker, not the pit games but I do have a few of those. Its a way for serious grinders to not have to play for free - get RB, more rewards etc

While most of those websites are offshore...they arent Russian.