That's a matter of opinion and last time I checked, your initial opinions suck.

Oh, you're GREAT at hopping in the bandwagon after everything's going down hill, but you don't know a ****ing thing beforehand.

Last three years I sure did, bub.

It's a fact that Alex Smith isn't good enough to be a playmaking QB, so let's not get silly. If we have a bad day running the ball, we're gonna lose the game...just like Cassel. He can't carry a team.

I do think Avery is fools gold as a viable #2 WR. I do think he can contribute, but I think he brings more cons than pros. Not a Chris Chambers level though.

He will be okay for this team, I just dont consider him an upgrade over Baldwin or McCluster and I think his numbers are a product of the system with Luck, because if you break them down he's not that efficient. McCluster and Baldwin project out more efficient than him last season.

It may work out, I think he's going to drop too many balls and the gameday thread is going to explode during games because of it lol.

Avery is probably going to have 400 yards with the likes of Alex "checkdown" Smith throwing him the ball.

The same can be said for 95% of all starting NFL QB's.

In case you hadn't noticed, no team is perfect, especially week to week.

Tom Brady loses, Aaron Rogers loses, Peyton Manning loses, Drew Brees loses, Eli Manning loses, Matt Ryan loses, etc. and so on.

Yea but if the Chiefs had any of those QBs you just named we would all be blowing each other right now with nothing negative to say really, because we would be garunteed at least a 10+ win season every year and a shot at the Super Bowl. Which all those QBs have, every season really barring injury.

They have no depth at key positions and a QB who can't overcome those things.

Please explain this efficiency you speak of.
You talkin about drops? Ypr? Yac?
How do you go about this breakdown?

That's not true whatsoever.

Those guys can compensate if a key playmaker goes down.

If necessary they can carry an offense.

Then why do they routinely lose 5-8 games each season?

I expect to see far more passes from Alex Smith this year, most in the 0-20 range where he excels.

And that's not a bad thing at all. It only takes 10 yards to get a first down.

That can be said for every team in the NFL.

Who backs up Ray Rice? Adrian Peterson? Eli Manning? Peyton Manning? Von Miller? Aaron Rodgers? Tom Brady? Megatron?

Need I go on?

Are you seriously arguing Alex Smith is as good as those guys?

Slow down there mister, you just talking crazy talk now.

Awesome you prop up your argument by citing what is by far proven throughout the history of the league as the far less successful way of building a team. ROFL

Drafting and developing your own QB accounts for what ~75% of Super Bowl winners? And the rest almost all either were from a very different era or had one off success (like the Ravens and Bucs both of which needed exceptional defense). Brees is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that actually won one that is comparable to the Alex Smith situation, and that required a lot. Brees stepped up his game so dramatically coming off a serious injury. Smith already had a serious injury and did not come back any better, and certainly nowhere close to the improvement that Brees showed.

Your argument is like the idiots that cite some "scientists" that don't believe in something like evolution. Of course if you compare the numbers of them to the opposite then you see just how stupid it is to use them as an argument.

Brady, Aikman, Elway, Favre, Rogers, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Montana, Young, Starr, Naimath, Bradshaw, Staubach, Namath, Griese, Stabler, Flacco...do I really need to continue?

I'd have to check but I think even just making the Super Bowl would have a similar ratio.

But hey, yeah let's buy into the Chiefs way of doing the same thing and expecting different results. :banghead:

Granted I haven't read all the posts but I don't see anyone saying they haven't gotten any better, but most people seem to accept that they really haven't done enough to actually move towards seriously competing for a championship. And short of Alex Smith having his skin grafted over an android, anything that will get them where they want to go (Super Bowl) will require years of development (although if we get lucky maybe that has already started via either Bray or Stanzi but I'm not holding my breath; that's still the most interesting thing to me though is if either of them can make enough improvement to push for becoming the starter).

And what happens if the negative "idiots" are right? Oh let me guess you'll be all for "giving them a chance" to the next QB/coach/etc. Hey, great to have optimism, but calling people idiots for being able to see a recurring pattern of mediocrity and failure is just well, stupid.