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staylor26 04-23-2020 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14925437)
I think there are a few names that will annoy people.....if the Chiefs go up there at 32 and take Laviska Shenault there is going to be some complaining.

That would be stupid.

Shenault is the kind of pick I’m not expecting, but would immediately get me excited.

Mecca 04-23-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14925441)
That would be stupid.

Shenault is the kind of pick I’m not expecting, but would immediately get me excited.

Well to average fan, it's a position of strength and he isn't rated super high on sites nor is he getting much play from anyone...

But I did find this...

https://thescorecrow.com/2020/04/22/...ted-prospects/

Underrated Prospects
I’ve saved the best for last, we can finally talk about underrated prospects and the value they may carry in the draft. The objective of the draft is to ultimately find the best value. Each year we put stock into post draft grades, which typically mean nothing but fun to do. However, these grades are typically structured based on perceived value. Whether it’s a special teams demon or a clutch fifth receiver, value is the key to sustained success in the NFL.

Laviska Shenault Jr. will Lead Rookie Wide Receivers in Total Yards Through Year Three
If you like physical ball carriers, you’ll probably love Shenault. If you like versatile players that are considered positionless, you’ll probably love Shenault. Shenault shows the ability to win as an X-receiver, slot-receiver, and the play speed to threaten as a z-receiver. That’s not even the best part, Shenault is extremely efficient and productive as a ball carrier and wildcat quarterback. In off coverage, Shenault eats up defensive backs with sneaky fast play speed. In man coverage, he shows a clean release that he pairs with elite play strength, creating separation at the top of his route.

That sounds good and all, so why is he projected to go late day two? Well, that’s a good question. I think a lot of it has to do with the perception that this guy is a positionless player, and there might be some confusion on how to use him. Shenault is the epitome of versatility and that can be extremely difficult to identify for evaluators. When teams are setting their big board, it’s typically based on collective group thinking. A player with so much versatility can end up with a range of evaluations. There’s also some concern about a recent core muscle surgery, adding to a list of football injuries that Shenault had to deal with at Colorado. Want a piece of advice regarding the former Buffalo? Don’t overthink him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here comes a Laviska Shenault breakdown, stay tuned (thread): <a href="https://t.co/F5QHAM3lZ7">pic.twitter.com/F5QHAM3lZ7</a></p>&mdash; Steve (@SteveNFL_) <a href="https://twitter.com/SteveNFL_/status/1246872580801343488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Easy 6 04-23-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14925437)
I think there are a few names that will annoy people.....if the Chiefs go up there at 32 and take Laviska Shenault there is going to be some complaining.

Won’t be annoyed here at all

Didn’t get hip to him until late in the game, but he’s an awesome height/weight/speed/versatility prospect... and a perfect replacement for Sammy

RealSNR 04-23-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14925432)
SNR, how would you feel if they drafted Swift in the 1st?

I would have been not disappointed, but not delighted with the pick about a month ago. Now... I'm kind of intrigued. He's got the potential to be prime Shady McCoy in this Reid offense.

Mecca 04-23-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14925461)
Won’t be annoyed here at all

Didn’t get hip to him until late in the game, but he’s an awesome height/weight/speed/versatility prospect... and a perfect replacement for Sammy

I like him because I see a versatile playmaker being paired with the top QB and offensive playcaller in the game.....he's also really smart on the field, if you watch some of the things he does, he completely understands spacing and soft spots already.

The Franchise 04-23-2020 12:48 PM

They could pretty much sell me on anybody right now outside of QB, K and P.

RealSNR 04-23-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14925437)
I think there are a few names that will annoy people.....if the Chiefs go up there at 32 and take Laviska Shenault there is going to be some complaining.

Not from me.

These are the best years to take raw prospects like Hardman and Shenault. Right now we don't really have a tackle-breaker YAC guy at WR. Shenault adds a new dimension to the offense, which is why I prefer him to a lot of other guys, even if they might have higher floors.

People around here know I really liked Bowe on this team. At times when the Chiefs were bad, it seemed at times like he was the only guy who gave a shit. He could truck over CBs with ease.

Shenault is going to have to watch it, since he's sacrificed his body already too much on those kinds of plays, but he's so versatile. Plays everything and anything. That's the kind of guy we need.

Mecca 04-23-2020 12:52 PM

Here are some really nice videos....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notice how Shenault stops and alters his pace towards the end of the route. Has the mental processing to realize that he’s entering into contested territory. Gives his QB a clean and open target. Very good acceleration to take it to the house. Play speed isn’t 4.58. <a href="https://t.co/8yMPab2yby">pic.twitter.com/8yMPab2yby</a></p>&mdash; Steve (@SteveNFL_) <a href="https://twitter.com/SteveNFL_/status/1246936523955736584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 04-23-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14925491)
Not from me.

These are the best years to take raw prospects like Hardman and Shenault. Right now we don't really have a tackle-breaker YAC guy at WR. Shenault adds a new dimension to the offense, which is why I prefer him to a lot of other guys, even if they might have higher floors.

People around here know I really liked Bowe on this team. At times when the Chiefs were bad, it seemed at times like he was the only guy who gave a shit. He could truck over CBs with ease.

Shenault is going to have to watch it, since he's sacrificed his body already too much on those kinds of plays, but he's so versatile. Plays everything and anything. That's the kind of guy we need.

I've been a big fan of Shenaults for a long time, I didn't think he was an option till Terez mentioned the other day.

siberian khatru 04-23-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14925450)
Well to average fan, it's a position of strength and he isn't rated super high on sites nor is he getting much play from anyone...

But I did find this...

https://thescorecrow.com/2020/04/22/...ted-prospects/

Underrated Prospects
I’ve saved the best for last, we can finally talk about underrated prospects and the value they may carry in the draft. The objective of the draft is to ultimately find the best value. Each year we put stock into post draft grades, which typically mean nothing but fun to do. However, these grades are typically structured based on perceived value. Whether it’s a special teams demon or a clutch fifth receiver, value is the key to sustained success in the NFL.

Laviska Shenault Jr. will Lead Rookie Wide Receivers in Total Yards Through Year Three
If you like physical ball carriers, you’ll probably love Shenault. If you like versatile players that are considered positionless, you’ll probably love Shenault. Shenault shows the ability to win as an X-receiver, slot-receiver, and the play speed to threaten as a z-receiver. That’s not even the best part, Shenault is extremely efficient and productive as a ball carrier and wildcat quarterback. In off coverage, Shenault eats up defensive backs with sneaky fast play speed. In man coverage, he shows a clean release that he pairs with elite play strength, creating separation at the top of his route.

That sounds good and all, so why is he projected to go late day two? Well, that’s a good question. I think a lot of it has to do with the perception that this guy is a positionless player, and there might be some confusion on how to use him. Shenault is the epitome of versatility and that can be extremely difficult to identify for evaluators. When teams are setting their big board, it’s typically based on collective group thinking. A player with so much versatility can end up with a range of evaluations. There’s also some concern about a recent core muscle surgery, adding to a list of football injuries that Shenault had to deal with at Colorado. Want a piece of advice regarding the former Buffalo? Don’t overthink him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here comes a Laviska Shenault breakdown, stay tuned (thread): <a href="https://t.co/F5QHAM3lZ7">pic.twitter.com/F5QHAM3lZ7</a></p>&mdash; Steve (@SteveNFL_) <a href="https://twitter.com/SteveNFL_/status/1246872580801343488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Sounds like Reid's favorite new toy.

Mecca 04-23-2020 01:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Colorado WR Laviska Shenault six weeks removed from core muscle surgery going through drills. <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> recently tweeted a letter from core muscle specialist William Meyers, who performed the surgery and noted Shenault looked “terrific.” Here’s a visual for you. <a href="https://t.co/kZk8LeYCjN">pic.twitter.com/kZk8LeYCjN</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1252739046750720006?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Without pads on that is a huge man moving really quickly...

kccrow 04-23-2020 01:32 PM

Meh on Shenault. 3rd rounder to me. Great hands, has okay but not great speed, needs alot of time dedicated to routes, and he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. To me, a carbon copy of Demarcus Robinson coming out. Robinson got knocked for being a bit of a tool and I think Shenault gets knocked due to durability. I would be shocked if he went in round 1. I wouldn't be pissed, but I'd consider it a reach. Would be more interested at the end of 2.

MahomesMagic 04-23-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14925581)
Meh on Shenault. 3rd rounder to me. Great hands, has okay but not great speed, needs alot of time dedicated to routes, and he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. To me, a carbon copy of Demarcus Robinson coming out. Robinson got knocked for being a bit of a tool and I think Shenault gets knocked due to durability. I would be shocked if he went in round 1. I wouldn't be pissed, but I'd consider it a reach. Would be more interested at the end of 2.

I think Shenault has more upside than that but the part that scares me on Shenault is I think it could take 2 years. I don't think he's going to jump in and dominate right away. Using a 1st on a guy that might not do anything for 2 years isn't ideal.

Still like him better than Reagor.

Mecca 04-23-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 14925589)
I think Shenault has more upside than that but the part that scares me on Shenault is I think it could take 2 years. I don't think he's going to jump in and dominate right away. Using a 1st on a guy that might not do anything for 2 years isn't ideal.

Still like him better than Reagor.

He's not a pure WR right now, he's basically a versatile weapon, but he may be the toughest and best RAC guy in the draft at that position.

hawkchief 04-23-2020 01:36 PM

Saw him play live at USC a year and a half ago. Big dude and extremely athletic. Very noticeable presence at WR and wildcat and a real force. Andy would have a lot of fun with him.


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