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O.city 09-25-2018 08:01 AM

Dak isn't good either.

He's the 4th round QB everyone thought he was.

loochy 09-25-2018 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13761516)
Jason Garrett is not a good head coach.

No, he's not. He made his name as an OC riding the Romo to Dez train. I was just saying what his excuses will be. Jerry will keep them both.
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TEX 09-25-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13761475)
Are people not aware of the fact that Dallas already offered a 2nd round pick and were rebuffed? It will take at least a 2nd plus more or a 1st to get him, and that's if Dallas hasn't upped their offer.

Sure we are, but there is something about teams not wanting to make a trade with teams in their own conference... KC should start with a # 2 and see where it goes from there. Seattle will likely take a lesser offer, as long as it's close, to trade him out of the NFC. At least that's how I'd do it.

Mecca 09-25-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13761526)
Sure we are, but there is something about teams not wanting to make a trade with teams in their own conference... KC should start with a # 2 and see where it goes from there. Seattle will likely take a lesser offer, as long as it's close, to trade him out of the NFC. At least that's how I'd do it.

I agree with that, if you move an elite player you'd like to possibly not have to play him every year or deal with him in the playoff fight or in the playoffs.

Trading him here basically means they might see him one or 2 times before his career is over.

Sassy Squatch 09-25-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13761513)
They can wish for a 1st all they want. That ain’t happening.

The Cowboys and Chiefs aren’t blinking. This is just going to compound on Seattle as the trade deadline gets closer. If Thomas is a Seahawk after 10/30, Seattle will get a 3rd rd comp at best.

I don’t see him staying there past next month after all the stuff he’s pulling. Schneider will come down on his demands if we wants something better than a comp.

Dallas already offered the 2nd. Unless they reduced their offer or the Seahawks won't trade him there out of pure spite, we have to do better than that. A 2nd from the Cowboys looks a hell of a lot more appealing to me than one from the Chiefs or Rams

TEX 09-25-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13761485)
“It’s almost like he’s holding out while he’s there in the facility,” Jay Glazer of FOX Sports said Sunday. “He shows up to practice Friday and then, in the middle of practice, he just stops practicing, sits down right there on the sideline, and doesn’t practice again. He shows up late that day, shows up late yesterday to their walkthrough.”

Yeah, don't really know about this one. If we don't pay him what he wants he'll just start to act up again down the road.

Yes. I thought that too. I don't like to deal with people / players in general who act like that, because they'll usually do it across the board. But, if he / they are good enough, it gets overlooked - until they're not anymore.

Mecca 09-25-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13761530)
Dallas already offered the 2nd. Unless they reduced their offer or the Seahawks won't trade him there out of pure spite, we have to do better than that. A 2nd from the Cowboys looks a hell of a lot more appealing to me than one from the Chiefs or Rams

You're kind of ignoring 2 things here. Teams hate trading star players to the same conference also what if they don't want to send him there because that is his top choice? Teams do that all the time..not that coming here is bad since the Chiefs are more of a winner but it gets him completely away from Seattle and any of their chances over the next few years.

Mecca 09-25-2018 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13761532)
Yes. I thought that too. I don't like to deal with people / players in general who act like that, because they'll usually do it across the board. But, if he / they are good enough, it gets overlooked - until they're not anymore.

He was never ever a problem until he felt like they dicked him over.

This is a guy that took less money so that team could stay together, he has every right to be pissed at them. He did them a solid and in return they tried to **** him.

Sassy Squatch 09-25-2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13761533)
You're kind of ignoring 2 things here. Teams hate trading star players to the same conference also what if they don't want to send him there because that is his top choice? Teams do that all the time..not that coming here is bad since the Chiefs are more of a winner but it gets him completely away from Seattle and any of their chances over the next few years.

I think that would only make a difference if the picks were likely to be close in value. Also, we have to pay this dude like a top safety or he's just going to be a pain in the ass here too.

Mecca 09-25-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13761539)
I think that would only make a difference if the picks were likely to be close in value. Also, we have to pay this dude like a top safety or he's just going to be a pain in the ass here too.

Why is that being brought up? Isn't a forgone conclusion if you deal for him you have already decided you're paying him? You know like Khalil Mack?

Sassy Squatch 09-25-2018 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13761540)
Why is that being brought up? Isn't a forgone conclusion if you deal for him you have already decided you're paying him? You know like Khalil Mack?

In case you aren't aware, we really don't have too much cap space even before we take into account talent like Hill, Jones, and Fuller.

O.city 09-25-2018 08:19 AM

The Chiefs have 2/3 of their units being elite right now.

Don't waste it. **** it. Lets do this.

fairladyZ 09-25-2018 08:19 AM

This seems to be gaining allot of steam on NFL Network and talk among journalists. Where there is smoke there is fire. I wouldn't be surprised if the deal is agreed to and veech is just trying to work out an extension with his agents. We can make the cap work easily. And it instantly makes this defense a mid tier contender. If you can agree to a deal and we have the peters bait you do it.

TEX 09-25-2018 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13761534)
He was never ever a problem until he felt like they dicked him over.

This is a guy that took less money so that team could stay together, he has every right to be pissed at them. He did them a solid and in return they tried to **** him.

You know what? You're right. I do remember that now - he wanted to KEEP the group together... Furthermore, it's even worse because they let players go, which freed up $$$ and he still got ignored.

Mecca 09-25-2018 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13761549)
In case you aren't aware, we really don't have too much cap space even before we take into account talent like Hill, Jones, and Fuller.

Hill's deal won't be affected the other 2 have years left and honestly..I wouldn't cry if they left and they are replaceable.

You can **** with the cap in whatever way you need to make shit happen, teams do it all the time.


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