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Jewish Rabbi 07-31-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14372646)
Honestly aside from a blockbuster deal for Thor or something like that there was no need to do jack shit anyway because this team isn't going anywhere this season.

So much this. For everyone complaining about no moves, it was the right thing to do. I went into today fully expecting Gorman or Carlson to get moved for some shitty starter.

BigRedChief 07-31-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14373018)
So much this. For everyone complaining about no moves, it was the right thing to do. I went into today fully expecting Gorman or Carlson to get moved for some shitty starter.

yeah **** that. Carlson or Gorman for Trevor Bauer or something similar?:BS:

kcpasco 07-31-2019 07:32 PM

That counts as a hit with RISP. No run scored but time to celebrate.

jd1020 07-31-2019 08:10 PM

Cardinals scouting department must be really bad at their jobs.

Happ swings and misses like 70% of the time on high fastballs with a <.050 ISO in the upper 3rd and they just get him to swing at strike 2 helmet level and come back with a low curveball on the next pitch.

DJ's left nut 07-31-2019 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 14373166)
Cardinals scouting department must be really bad at their jobs.

Happ swings and misses like 70% of the time on high fastballs with a <.050 ISO in the upper 3rd and they just get him to swing at strike 2 helmet level and come back with a low curveball on the next pitch.

I think Mikolas was trying to waste it and it just didnt have the depth on the break he needed. It wasn't a truly bad pitch but its wasn't supposed to be hittable and it was so that's what happened.

jd1020 07-31-2019 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14373190)
I think Mikolas was trying to waste it and it just didnt have the depth on the break he needed. It wasn't a truly bad pitch but its wasn't supposed to be hittable and it was so that's what happened.

Ya but there's really no need to even set him up. He was demoted because you can just feed that pitch to him one after the other and the worst that will happen is maybe once in a blue moon he'll bloop one down the line but the most likely result is that he will strikeout swinging. It got so bad last year that he just stopped swinging to the point of having the lowest swing% of any batter in the game by a mile.

O.city 08-01-2019 07:42 AM

Apparently Greinke was interested in coming to stl

That would have been nice

Frazod 08-01-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14373588)
Apparently Greinke was interested in coming to stl

That would have been nice

Yeah, sort of like Scherzer. That would have been nice, too.

The management of this team needs to ****ing die. :#

BigRedChief 08-01-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14373588)
Apparently Greinke was interested in coming to stl

That would have been nice

Depends on what was asked? Whats the rumor that we would have had to give up?

Marco Polo 08-01-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14373643)
Depends on what was asked? Whats the rumor that we would have had to give up?

Houston had to give up a Top 100 player who is hurt. I'm willing to bet if we took on more salary, we would not have had to give up Gorman or Carlson.

O.city 08-01-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14373643)
Depends on what was asked? Whats the rumor that we would have had to give up?

A prospect overrated by our administration that wouldn’t ever amount to anything anyway

BigRedChief 08-01-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14373689)
A prospect overrated by our administration that wouldn’t ever amount to anything anyway

Who?

O.city 08-01-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14373692)
Who?

I dunno, pick a prospect that this group is high on

Odds are they’ve overrated them

DJ's left nut 08-01-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14373588)
Apparently Greinke was interested in coming to stl

That would have been nice

Cardinals couldn't have justified it, to be honest.

To match the Astros package, they'd have had to give up something like Gorman, Woodford and Fernandez. And they'd have had to take on $100 million in salary.

The Cardinals can excuse doing one of the above but not both. Not with their system being as ungodly mediocre as it is and the team not really being championship caliber anyway, even with Greinke.

The Astros can make that move because they're loaded at the major league level AND have a farm system that is both deeper and has a higher end than ours.

O.city 08-01-2019 09:08 AM

True


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