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tredadda 02-07-2023 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16792483)
If you listen to the media we're basically playing the 85 bears defense, the Chiefs Willie roaf O-line and the Ravens 2019 rushing attack.

Then I switch on the Eagles vs Cowboys game from a few months ago and just shake my head. People have buried that game under the guise of Philly not having Hurts. But Reid and his staff have not buried it. The amount of deficiencies that you see from the philly defense in several areas are so apparent it's scary. And then you look at the stats and how they are poor against the run, one of the worst against screens and vulnerable in the middle of the field. The tale is there to see...but the media don't want to share the story.

Those are excellent points. As the Cowboys are rivals I wonder how much of their success against the Eagles defense is a product of familiarity and how much of it is exposing that defense. I tend to throw division games out the window due to that. Look at KC, the Broncos are trash and yet still played the Chiefs closer than should have been. To me those games are in no way an indictment on KC.

I do find it funny though that they seem to overlook how dominant the KC offense has been against top tier defenses. Rarely in the Mahomes era has a top defense shut this offense down and I don’t think they will this time either.

I don’t know why, but the closer we get to kickoff the more confident I am in a Chiefs victory. I usually don’t get that way about any game. The Eagles are a very good team but I think a combination of big game jitters, Hurts injury to his throwing shoulder, and KC’s offensive firepower will be too much. I just can’t see them being able to hang with the Chiefs in a shootout.

tredadda 02-07-2023 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16792475)
I saw an interesting stat that only twice has the #1 passing offense faced the #1 passing defense in the Super Bowl. Once back in 2002 in the Buccaneers vs Raiders matchup and again in 2013 with the Broncos vs Seahawks.

The #1 passing defenses won by an average of 31 points.

Lots of stats going back and forth but I feel good about the game given the fact that we've got Mahomes and Reid on our side.

One thing about those defenses and the Eagles defense. The Eagles defense had some bad games against higher caliber offenses. Those other defenses absolutely dominated everyone all year and imposed their will on everyone. Not sure the Eagles can make the same claim.

staylor26 02-07-2023 04:12 PM

Ignoring the ridiculously small sample size, this Eagles defense is absolutely nowhere near as good as the Bucs and Seahawks.

staylor26 02-07-2023 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16792544)
One thing about those defenses and the Eagles defense. The Eagles defense had some bad games against higher caliber offenses. Those other defenses absolutely dominated everyone all year and imposed their will on everyone. Not sure the Eagles can make the same claim.

Exactly. This year's Rodgers/Packers offense and Dak are not dropping 30+ on either of those defenses.

Skyy God 02-07-2023 04:18 PM

Way less worried about this game than the 49ers, Bucs, or the Bengals last game.

JPH83 02-07-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16792551)
Ignoring the ridiculously small sample size, this Eagles defense is absolutely nowhere near as good as the Bucs and Seahawks.

Gotta be waaaay better than the Seahawks.

JPH83 02-07-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16792650)
Gotta be waaaay better than the Seahawks.

Ignore me, you're not talking about this year's Seahawks! Ha.

staylor26 02-07-2023 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16792652)
Ignore me, you're not talking about this year's Seahawks! Ha.

Lol yea I'm talking about the Legion of Boom.

New World Order 02-07-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16792551)
Ignoring the ridiculously small sample size, this Eagles defense is absolutely nowhere near as good as the Bucs and Seahawks.

Yep.

Not even close

UChieffyBugger 02-07-2023 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16792532)
Those are excellent points. As the Cowboys are rivals I wonder how much of their success against the Eagles defense is a product of familiarity and how much of it is exposing that defense. I tend to throw division games out the window due to that. Look at KC, the Broncos are trash and yet still played the Chiefs closer than should have been. To me those games are in no way an indictment on KC.

I do find it funny though that they seem to overlook how dominant the KC offense has been against top tier defenses. Rarely in the Mahomes era has a top defense shut this offense down and I don’t think they will this time either.

I don’t know why, but the closer we get to kickoff the more confident I am in a Chiefs victory. I usually don’t get that way about any game. The Eagles are a very good team but I think a combination of big game jitters, Hurts injury to his throwing shoulder, and KC’s offensive firepower will be too much. I just can’t see them being able to hang with the Chiefs in a shootout.

The issue is they haven't played many decent QB's or offenses so you just have to analyse the three or four games they did and that Dallas game was eye opening is all I'm saying. Especially how the Dallas O-line handled philly's four man rush for most of the game.

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FringeNC 02-07-2023 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16792551)
Ignoring the ridiculously small sample size, this Eagles defense is absolutely nowhere near as good as the Bucs and Seahawks.

It's not even as good as the Bills D we faced in the playoffs last year.

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Chris Meck 02-07-2023 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16792081)
The Eagles are better at every position other than the QB? Is that really what McCoy just said? Get the **** out of here.

McCoy is just a salty bitch.

Pretty much every single Patriots SB winner was the same. The one time they were clearly the best overall team was when they were undefeated and the Giants beat them.


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