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GeorgeZimZam 07-08-2024 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17577931)
With Bobby's swing I can really see him getting into a groove if they throw it to his sweet spot.

I wondered if his pops would be on the mound, but that won't be the case:

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The next question: Who will pitch to Witt in the event?

He considered his father, Bobby Witt Sr. — a longtime former major-league pitcher — but has granted the responsibility to his brother-in-law, James Russell. Russell pitched in the big leagues, too, appearing in 394 games during a seven-year MLB career with the Cubs, Braves and Phillies.

“It was a consideration,” Witt said of his dad, “but his arm is hanging after pitching 16 years in the big leagues.

“I’m going to go with my brother-in-law for now, James Russell. His dad played for the (Texas) Rangers and he grew up a Rangers fan. … It’s just a good little family affair, but he is gonna enjoy it.”
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KC Royals star Bobby Witt Jr. in 2024 MLB Home Run Derby | Kansas City Star<br>
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dlphg9 07-08-2024 11:26 PM

Why hasn't Walter Pennington been brought back up?

KC_Connection 07-08-2024 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17576893)
So right now the Royals are 9th in the majors in run differential.

I posted this on a different thread, but want to put it here.

I think run differential is a huge indicator of how good your team is. Just look at previous world series winners and where they ranked.

It was definitely the best indicator nine years ago.

Ocotillo 07-09-2024 11:11 AM

No baseball today:-(

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No Cardinals/Royals game today. It&#39;s been postponed due to rain.<br><br>They&#39;ll play a split doubleheader Wednesday. Game 1 12:45, Game 2, 6:45. <br><br>Tickets for today&#39;s game will be valid for Game 1 tomorrow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a></p>&mdash; Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/katiejwoo/status/1810718634177617954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TLO 07-09-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17578288)
No baseball today:-(

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No Cardinals/Royals game today. It&#39;s been postponed due to rain.<br><br>They&#39;ll play a split doubleheader Wednesday. Game 1 12:45, Game 2, 6:45. <br><br>Tickets for today&#39;s game will be valid for Game 1 tomorrow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a></p>&mdash; Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/katiejwoo/status/1810718634177617954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****!!!!

GabyKeepsMeWarm 07-09-2024 06:19 PM

So here we are... High water mark was back in late May when we were 15 games over .500, and firmly in the playoff race.

Now things look a little different. We're still over .500, albeit only by 6 games. Starting pitching is still in great shape. We've got a legit superstar in the making putting together an MVP type season, with a few good offensive pieces around him in Salvy, Vinnie, Massey, and to a lesser extent Garcia, Renfroe and Isbel, and that's probably generous. The bullpen is held together by chewing gum and scotch tape.

So here's the question. We're currently 1.5 games back of the wild card. With Houston, Boston, Minnesota and others surging, do we sell or buy before the deadline? There are legit reasons to go either way. What do we think?

BWillie 07-09-2024 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17578758)
So here we are... High water mark was back in late May when we were 15 games over .500, and firmly in the playoff race.

Now things look a little different. We're still over .500, albeit only by 6 games. Starting pitching is still in great shape. We've got a legit superstar in the making putting together an MVP type season, with a few good offensive pieces around him in Salvy, Vinnie, Massey, and to a lesser extent Garcia, Renfroe and Isbel, and that's probably generous. The bullpen is held together by chewing gum and scotch tape.

So here's the question. We're currently 1.5 games back of the wild card. With Houston, Boston, Minnesota and others surging, do we sell or buy before the deadline? There are legit reasons to go either way. What do we think?

nothing

TLO 07-09-2024 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17578758)
So here we are... High water mark was back in late May when we were 15 games over .500, and firmly in the playoff race.

Now things look a little different. We're still over .500, albeit only by 6 games. Starting pitching is still in great shape. We've got a legit superstar in the making putting together an MVP type season, with a few good offensive pieces around him in Salvy, Vinnie, Massey, and to a lesser extent Garcia, Renfroe and Isbel, and that's probably generous. The bullpen is held together by chewing gum and scotch tape.

So here's the question. We're currently 1.5 games back of the wild card. With Houston, Boston, Minnesota and others surging, do we sell or buy before the deadline? There are legit reasons to go either way. What do we think?

Sell high. Don't buy.

dlphg9 07-09-2024 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17578758)
So here we are... High water mark was back in late May when we were 15 games over .500, and firmly in the playoff race.

Now things look a little different. We're still over .500, albeit only by 6 games. Starting pitching is still in great shape. We've got a legit superstar in the making putting together an MVP type season, with a few good offensive pieces around him in Salvy, Vinnie, Massey, and to a lesser extent Garcia, Renfroe and Isbel, and that's probably generous. The bullpen is held together by chewing gum and scotch tape.

So here's the question. We're currently 1.5 games back of the wild card. With Houston, Boston, Minnesota and others surging, do we sell or buy before the deadline? There are legit reasons to go either way. What do we think?

Trade for bullpen guys. There isn't anyone in the minors that is even close to untouchable and bullpen guys don't cost much in terms of prospects.

Ocotillo 07-09-2024 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17578789)
Sell high. Don't buy.

Why would you bring all these veterans (Lugo, Wacha, Renfroe) in if you're going to sell in a situation (1.5 games back) that would have been desired in spring training?

Ocotillo 07-09-2024 08:01 PM

Former Royal manager Mike Matheny was involved in this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’ve all seen Albert Bell shoulder tackle Fernando Vina, but the whole sequence is so much wilder. <a href="https://t.co/lsZBh5l4iW">pic.twitter.com/lsZBh5l4iW</a></p>&mdash; BaseballHistoryNut (@nut_history) <a href="https://twitter.com/nut_history/status/1810792177892516240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

GeorgeZimZam 07-09-2024 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17578807)
Why would you bring all these veterans (Lugo, Wacha, Renfroe) in if you're going to sell in a situation (1.5 games back) that would have been desired in spring training?

To have a brighter future, i.e. a better shot for sustained contention. It is a frustrating spot: seemingly on the brink of contention, yet with a paltry stable in the farm system and few guys beyond Witt that are true cornerstones to build around. And like you said: reliant on veterans. Veterans that don't really factor into the long-term plans, and probably won't sustain their current performance levels.

ChiefsCountry 07-09-2024 09:06 PM

Royals fan: Our minor league system sucks
Royals fan: Don't trade our minor league guys, you would ruin our system!

Me: Make the ****ing playoffs and see what happens.

dlphg9 07-09-2024 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam (Post 17578838)
To have a brighter future, i.e. a better shot for sustained contention. It is a frustrating spot: seemingly on the brink of contention, yet with a paltry stable in the farm system and few guys beyond Witt that are true cornerstones to build around. And like you said: reliant on veterans. Veterans that don't really factor into the long-term plans, and probably won't sustain their current performance levels.

Who do you think we'd possibly trade for a relief pitcher that would dim this future if traded away? How often do prospects become even average big leaguers? It's like you guys don't realize how light the return is for a RP.

Last year Aroldis Chapman was the best RP on the market and the Royals got back 2 guys that weren't even in their top 30 prospect rankings. One was a 25 year old.pitcher coming off back to back TJS. Cole Ragans is a god damn stud, but no one expected this.

GeorgeZimZam 07-09-2024 09:58 PM

Beyond hoping for the best, I don't have much to suggest. Enjoying meaningful baseball (rly tho, I'm trying), which isn't something we often have. A rarity for all the reasons we've mentioned: poor drafting, poor development, subsequent lack of assets to flip for fine tuning of the roster for a legit push.

As soon as I was praising Maikel Garcia for having a solid, under-appreciated April & May, he decided to channel his inner Rubén Gotay and play like it was 2005 in June. Even Salvy followed suit to a large degree. I get it though. Long season. Peaks and valleys. Run differential and pythagorean record still provide some light amidst the June/early-July darkness. True enough, 10th overall in winning percentage, and 8th in both pythag & run differential is more than could have been expected (although, 25th in strength of schedule worth noting).

The pessimist/realist/jilted Royals loyalist in me will probably always have doubts. Decades of lousiness does that. But oh how sweet the playoff runs are when they happen.


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