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Mr. Plow 12-19-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12628721)
Meltdown with me Glory and notorio...

Let's all do it together!!

Mr. Plow 12-19-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12628749)
Unleash the Clayken!!!

LMAO

You're cracking me up man.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12628763)
It is hard to be more aggressive when you have a QB who apparently can't read the most basic of coverages and forces a game killing INT into the end zone.

That wasn't a read issue.

Slants are designed so that they're thrown on the assumption that your WR knows what's coming and wins the battle.

Maclin didn't win the battle. Smith had the right read; got the 1 on 1 coverage wide. But Maclin let the DB get inside him. It's a timing play and every time that ball is going to come out before the outcome of that individual matchup is known.

Slants get picked sometimes; it happens. They also lead to a lot of scores and first downs. But it's rarely the QB that makes that play work, it's the WR. Either he makes the play and wins the battle to get underneath/inside the DB or the DB wins, beats him to the spot and picks it. I'm open to a different view as I haven't seen it replayed, I just saw it from the stands. Perhaps a safety sunk and I didn't see it quite right. From my chair it just looked like Maclin lost the battle.

This was very similar to the interception last week where Maclin let the defensive back get under him and beat him to the spot.

Smith didn't play a good game but that pick wasn't on him. Maclin simply didn't win the battle. It's just another play to throw on the pile of mind-****s that happened in that game. So many guys just didn't give the effort they needed in that game and that play again demonstrated it. It looked to me like the skill position guys didn't want to get hit, Smith couldn't grip the ball worth a damn and wouldn't wear a glove (stupid) and the OL...**** man, that OL is just soft. I don't know what else to say there. They'll be able to pass protect by being technicians but you're seeing their lack of aggression in the repeated failures in the run game.

God dammit that loss sucked.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-19-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12628673)
Common sense???? WTF are you talking about. You come up in here cherry picking stats like the loss margin, but ignore the stat's on win margins, and how many wins were pulling a game out in the oddest of ways.

Common sense dictates that if you're going to bring cherries to the table, you bring them all and be honest.

How many teams did Denver blow out on their way to the SB this year?
Defense wins rings.

GloryDayz 12-19-2016 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12628721)
Meltdown with me Glory and notorio...

Meh, "calling it the way it is" is only a meltdown in Hunt's Chief's Nation... Your being calm and accepting the raping compared to our vocal resistance to the raping doesn't change the fact that Chiefs fans have been being raped by the Hunts for decades, and we're about to get something else shoved in us.

Lube up, next year is our year... Andy will double-down on his Focus Factor, Alex will take throwing lessons, DJ will have a bungee cord installed, JC will claim he's 100%, Houston and Hali will be 100% (until camp opens), and Dorsey will bring in another skinny O-linemen.

We shall see...

Molitoth 12-19-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12628825)
How many teams did Denver blow out on their way to the SB this year?
Defense wins rings.

Yet you sit here and suck the offensive poop-dick.

Yes, we know our defense is good. Our offense is garbage and needs fixed.

The Franchise 12-19-2016 11:13 AM

Smith is on pace to be sacked the least amount of times since he's been in KC.

O-LINE'S FAULT!!!!!!

bobbything 12-19-2016 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12628825)
How many teams did Denver blow out on their way to the SB this year?
Defense wins rings.

I'm not going to complain about margin of victory because that's dumb. However, a complete team wins rings most of the time. The outlier really (in the last 20 years) are the 2000 Ravens. But even that team had a really good running game. The norm, for the most part, is that SB winning teams tend to have HOF quarterbacks. I don't necessarily think those things are mutually exclusive, but let's be honest...if you have a HOF QB, your chances go way up.

If this team is going to win a Super Bowl, everyone has to play better. It starts with the coaches doing a better job (quit calling slants into the middle of the end zone). Managing the game with the use of timeouts and the such has to get better. It has to.

The defense has to realize that it's the face of this team. When faced with 1:00 to go in the game, up by 1, they have to put the clamps down. They will have to do this more than once en route to a SB. So, watching them give up about 40 yards in 40 seconds was disappointing.

The offense is really the biggest work-around on this team. The QB has to play better. He can't be tossing interceptions in the end zone. Their margin for error is so much smaller than other teams. So, they have to be more accurate in those positions. Maybe play-calling needs to improve. This team seems to have the ability go out and just take 7 points when they deem it necessary. Then, for 2/3rd's of the game they run plays east/west and punt. Is it fear of injury? Is it Reid trying to get too cute? Is it receivers not getting open, the line not blocking, the RBs missing their reads? Is it Smith missing receivers running wide open because he's focused on one thing?

Really, this Titans game is good foreshadowing for how this team will lose in the playoffs if there is one key breakdown at the most inopportune time. The Smith INT. The timeout by Reid at 4th and 5 when the Titans looked completely lost. The timeout by Reid on the FG attempt. The breakdown in defense on 4th and 5. If just one of those areas tightens up, we win this game. So, that's encouraging I suppose.

Personally, I think this team has to get better offensively in the 2nd half of games. They simply cannot continue to put up goose eggs in the 2nd half of games and expect to win.

carcosa 12-19-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12628273)
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Sent from my phone using Tapatalk (so spelling be damned!!!)

Did he really say this!?!?!?!?

Red Dawg 12-19-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12628881)
Smith is on pace to be sacked the least amount of times since he's been in KC.

O-LINE'S FAULT!!!!!!

Check our running game stats. They suck ass and that is the OL fault and Smiths fault for being a crappy QB that doesn't threaten a defense with his arm. Him not being sacked a ton makes him look even worse. He can't put up good numbers on shitty defenses nor play better than rookie QB's. He needs to gooooo! The OL needs to hit weights and Dorsey needs to find some beef for the OL and some beef in the back field. Ware and West are tiny and don't have the power to get short yards.

The Franchise 12-19-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 12628895)

The defense has to realize that it's the face of this team. When faced with 1:00 to go in the game, up by 1, they have to put the clamps down. They will have to do this more than once en route to a SB. So, watching them give up about 40 yards in 40 seconds was disappointing.

You can take this shit and shove it up your ass. I'm tired of the defense holding teams to 10-14 points the entire game....while the offense shits down their legs....and then the defense gives up a drive at the end of the game for a FG....and everyone screams that it's the defenses fault.

The offense had MULTIPLE times to build the lead yesterday and force the Titans to abandon their running game. The offense blew that game yesterday....nobody else.

ToxSocks 12-19-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12628881)
Smith is on pace to be sacked the least amount of times since he's been in KC.

O-LINE'S FAULT!!!!!!

What does that have to do with their failure to produce a run game all season?

Chiefs have been shit in short yardage situations all year, not just yesterday. It's causing our inability to pick up key 3rd downs. It's shortening our drives.

It's what causes Reid to get all cutesy on 3rd and short with screens and horizontal passes, which ends with fans bitching about not running it.

Yesterday Reid decided that he wanted to give the OL a chance to assert itself and they failed.

Two straight run plays inside the 1? The OL has to win that.

The Franchise 12-19-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12628901)
What does that have to do with their failure to produce a run game all season?

Chiefs have been shit in short yardage situations all year, not just yesterday. It's causing our inability to pick up key 3rd downs. It's shortening our drives.

It's what causes Reid to get all cutesy on 3rd and short with screens and horizontal passes, which ends with fans bitching about not running it.

Yesterday Reid decided that he wanted to give the OL a chance to assert itself and they failed.

Two straight run plays inside the 1? The OL has to win that.

The running game has suffered. I don't know how much of it is truly the offensive line's fault, the play calling or the RBs themselves. Look at yesterday....the Titans gave up that 65 yard TD run to Hill and then Hill saw how many carries the rest of the game?

ToxSocks 12-19-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12628899)
Check our running game stats. They suck ass and that is the OL fault and Smiths fault for being a crappy QB that doesn't threaten a defense with his arm. Him not being sacked a ton makes him look even worse. He can't put up good numbers on shitty defenses nor play better than rookie QB's. He needs to gooooo! The OL needs to hit weights and Dorsey needs to find some beef for the OL and some beef in the back field. Ware and West are tiny and don't have the power to get short yards.

Ware is fine. He's certainly strong enough to win in short yardage situations. The O-line simply hasn't been getting push when opposing D's know they're going to run.

Reid's Chiefs have NEVER been a power running team. I've always argued that when people complain that we don't run it enough in short yardage situations.

bobbything 12-19-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12628900)
You can take this shit and shove it up your ass. I'm tired of the defense holding teams to 10-14 points the entire game....while the offense shits down their legs....and then the defense gives up a drive at the end of the game for a FG....and everyone screams that it's the defenses fault.

The offense had MULTIPLE times to build the lead yesterday and force the Titans to abandon their running game. The offense blew that game yesterday....nobody else.

I basically said as much, if you read the whole thing. Doesn't change the fact that if the defense is far-and-away the best unit on this team, then they need to clamp down with 1 minute to go.


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