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BigRedChief

12-10-2015 06:00 PM

MLB has a hour long special on the Royals 30 years, 2 World Championships. 7:00 pm central time MLB network.

suzzer99

12-10-2015 06:24 PM

Already in pre-fap mode

cosmo20002

12-10-2015 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11943422)

So much for Alex being fine with a hometown discount

Why are you saying that? Did Alex say something?

RealSNR

12-10-2015 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11943825)

Why are you saying that? Did Alex say something?

That was the thinking by a lot of Royals fans, that whatever his value on the open market was, he'd take a little bit less if it meant staying in KC.

suzzer99

12-10-2015 07:25 PM

Assuming he'd take $100k less to stay in KC. And assuming he wouldn't take $20M less.

Now - where in the middle would he accept?

KChiefs1

12-10-2015 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 11943557)

When teams are in desperation mode signing guys to insane contracts-Royals need to be doing the opposite by bringing up players from the minors to fill in around our stars.

Eibner in 2016 & Starling in 2017.

Prison Bitch

12-10-2015 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 11943681)

Oh yeah, that's fair. Those numbers were speculation/projections from baseball columnists iirc.

It was fair for both sides. Alex turned 1 good year into 4/38. The first two arb years would've probably netted him 4&6. He ended up getting 9&9, and then he had 2 more guranteed afterward. Remember too that he got a player option for 2016 at $12.5m. All told if he sucked, he was looking at $50M in guaranteed money.

He ended up better off in FA too. Had he signed after 2013 he was probably looking 6/80. Revenues exploded since and now he's in line for way more.

ROYC75

12-10-2015 10:42 PM

Nice film! :clap: :clap: :clap:

-King-

12-11-2015 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11943601)

As a player he's proof that letting the SABR guys have free reign is no more intelligent than letting crusty old baseball men run it.

As a player he possesses a well rounded skill-set that makes him a useful ballplayer on any team. You're advocating for a contract that would make him the cornerstone player of a contender.

He ain't that and unless he completely re-works his swing, he never will be.

Just staring googly eyed at pretty WAR numbers isn't going to get you very far. He racks up DWAR playing a secondary defensive position. He doesn't produce runs and his contributions on offense are both erratic and generally able to be neutralized given a fairly easy plan (pitch him in).

He's not 'brilliant'. He's not a superstar. And if you want to give all glory to WAR here, he's not even as good as Kevin Kiermaier. He's just a nice ballplayer that's about to be grossly overpaid.

So basically the only thing he has over Gordon is age? Is that really worth $100mil extra?

Lex Luthor

12-11-2015 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11944456)

So basically the only thing he has over Gordon is age? Is that really worth $100mil extra?

I assume you're simply asking a rhetorical question, and you already know the answer is "no".

DJ's analysis, as usual, is spot on. I think Zeke must be Jason Heyward's brother. He is not worth $200,000,000. Not even close. That's the kind of contract poorly-run teams sign and well-run teams avoid.

ChiefsCountry

12-11-2015 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11944456)

So basically the only thing he has over Gordon is age? Is that really worth $100mil extra?

Yes. Because you are getting his prime WAR years.

cmh6476

12-11-2015 08:51 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Important detail I missed: This is per year. So he has some, you could say, "incentive", to pitch well. <a href="https://t.co/KyV7Z0NI6e">https://t.co/KyV7Z0NI6e</a></p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/675099789973958656">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The breakdown on Soria's contract: $7M in 2016, $8M in 2017, $9M in 2018, plus a $1M buyout on a $10M mutual option for 2019.</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/675093988957900800">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moore also said he felt confident his team could field an outfield rotation next year of Cain, Dyson, Orlando, Eibner and Fuentes.</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/674722087836192768">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiTown

12-11-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11944522)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moore also said he felt confident his team could field an outfield rotation next year of Cain, Dyson, Orlando, Eibner and Fuentes.</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/674722087836192768">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That would be horribly un-sexy

WhawhaWhat

12-11-2015 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11944522)

Smoke screen I assume.

ChiTown

12-11-2015 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11944583)

Smoke screen I assume.

Has to be.