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raybec 4 09-05-2023 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087665)
Not in coverage, no.

Edge setting boss!

O.city 09-05-2023 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087690)
I'm still fascinated by the idea of Spags just hurling NTs at their interior line and letting GK and FAU get a little space on the edges.

Gimme 700 lbs of fat-ass just slamming into the A gaps and I'll take my chances w/ the youngsters on the edge.

**** it - BRING BACK THE 2-GAP SCHEME!!! Have GK and Danna playing a 3-tech and sent FAU/BJ Thompson screaming off the edges from a 7/9 alignment.

Let's get weird...

I've been toying around with some ideas since you brought this up.

If the Jones thing is at it's end and the Bucs suck and wanna shed some contracts this year......would a Vita Vea have any interest to you?

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087694)
I've been toying around with some ideas since you brought this up.

If the Jones thing is at it's end and the Bucs suck and wanna shed some contracts this year......would a Vita Vea have any interest to you?

With a $1 million base? You bet your ass he does.

But I feel like they've been awfully reluctant to move him. Probably need a 2nd for that.

O.city 09-05-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087705)
With a $1 million base? You bet your ass he does.

But I feel like they've been awfully reluctant to move him. Probably need a 2nd for that.

Yeah.....and?

Plug his ass in there for a few years and just throw numbers at the edge.

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087709)
Yeah.....and?

Plug his ass in there for a few years and just throw numbers at the edge.

$15 million base next season and $16 the season after that. Can potentially recover the 2nd you gave up for Jones. You have Omenihu coming back as interior pressure alongside him with the continued development of FAU and Karlaftis.

We get real 'conventional' real fast with that setup but y'know what, I'm down.

That dude is just hilariously strong. He's not Dexter Lawrence in that he doesn't collapse the pocket from inside, but he makes sure it stays where it started.

yeah, I can definitely talk myself into that.

JPH83 09-05-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087672)
Right - they're far different styles of player.

Uzi would need to have better 'counting stats' to be even as good as Karlaftis was because if he's not impacting a play, he's probably not gonna give you merely a neutral rep very often. Whereas Karlaftis could play to neutral even when he wasn't finishing a play or getting a pressure.

Yeah I get that all, I just think where Karlaftis is sometimes seen as neutral he really isn't.There's plenty of stuff against the run where he's just not seen it and been washed a mile away. I don't think he's been the edge setting guy that FAU clearly isn't intended to be. I think he can and will get there, my hope is he takes that big step this year.

O.city 09-05-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087714)
$15 million base next season and $16 the season after that. Can potentially recover the 2nd you gave up for Jones. You have Omenihu coming back as interior pressure alongside him with the continued development of FAU and Karlaftis.

We get real 'conventional' real fast with that setup but y'know what, I'm down.

Oh, ideally I'd love to have Jones in there.

But that's apparently not in the cards so we gotta pivot. So I could have a season with Jones, Vita and Omenihu inside with those 2 outside.

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007 09-05-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17087157)
This thread got dumb today. Not that it's been rational discussion for a while, mind you, but today is something else.


I'm surprised it took this long.

JPH83 09-05-2023 02:38 PM

The bummer for me is I kinda WAS excited to see this DL with Jones and Omenihu. I still think the DT rotation is pish and the DEs are raw as hell. But I figured Coburn would take Nnadi's snaps and be an immediate upgrade against the run, and Omenihu would be a big upgrade on Clark. For obvious passing downs having Karlaftis, Omenihu, Jones and FAU was pretty enticing.

Wonder if with hindsight anyone would've approached the DL differently this offseason?

JPH83 09-05-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087690)
I'm still fascinated by the idea of Spags just hurling NTs at their interior line and letting GK and FAU get a little space on the edges.

Gimme 700 lbs of fat-ass just slamming into the A gaps and I'll take my chances w/ the youngsters on the edge.

**** it - BRING BACK THE 2-GAP SCHEME!!! Have GK and Danna playing a 3-tech and sent FAU/BJ Thompson screaming off the edges from a 7/9 alignment.

Let's get weird...

I think both Coburn and Farrell fit the bill for this

dlphg9 09-05-2023 03:36 PM

****ing $27.25 mil/yr and they're holding out? At some point you gotta blame the player for being a ****ing idiot and he's being a ****ing idiot.

Buehler445 09-05-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17087314)
If I was Jones agent right now Id sign immediately. Beg and plead to play in game 1 and then say I made sure I signed once Kelce for hurt and the team needed me. Then I would immediately fire my agent. Chiefs kingdom would love him again

And then file suit against the agent for 20M.

And then fold his ass up and stuff him in a shoebox. Because I’m
Chris Jones.

Then shoot his ass into the sun.

Coochie liquor 09-05-2023 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17087536)
Like 6 or so.

C’mon Rivers has like 16 kids or something?

Wisconsin_Chief 09-05-2023 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17087871)
****ing $27.25 mil/yr and they're holding out? At some point you gotta blame the player for being a ****ing idiot and he's being a ****ing idiot.

100% this, I’m done with the guy. If I’m KC I pull the offer and let him sit out until week 7. Then keep him off the roster with the two week exemption and continue to not pay him and collect the cap space to carry over next year. Then franchise his dumbass for $25 million and ship him to the highest bidder and forget he ever existed.

Chris clearly has other priorities that come before winning, so he can go fulfill those needs elsewhere just like Tyreek.


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