Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17360959)

Eh, that's not really true. No one wanted to give up two first-round draft picks for him PLUS take on his salary PLUS piss off the Ravens for future trades. Sometimes the tag is just used to help understand the market.

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17360975)

I gotta give props to you. There were oodles of people who acted like the Ravens overpaid for Lamar before this season began, but I thought they went extinct when he immediately went on the win MVP and made the contract look like a bargain in addition to it not being guaranteed and not being a 10-year deal requiring constant restructures. But you’re bravely continuing on as the last of your species. Fight on!

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17360993)

You lost to Indy at home, gave up THIRTY THREE AT HOME to Cleveland and lost to Kenny Pickett ROFL

Unbeatable my ass

Originally Posted by zapocalypse (Post 17361001)

We can do this all day.

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17360842)

and half your fans didn't want to sign him... that was weird. Although many will never admit it this year.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17361005)

Actually, you can't.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17360997)

So if Lamar Jackson approached the Ravens and asked them to put 4 years at $45 million/season on the back of his deal (which would be robbery given the rise in the cap) do you think they'd do it? Would you be excited if they did?

And what if they guaranteed it? Which again - would STILL be robbery for a 2-time MVP who's out there winning games with mental processing and not raw athletic ability. You'd have a clear-cut franchise QB, a future HoFer, locked in at reasonable rates through his early 30s. And as a guy who's winning between the ears, there's reason to believe he'll only get BETTER from this point forward.

If no, why not? If yes, why weren't the Ravens eager to do that in the first place? Who cares about 'restructures' -- those are accounting mechanisms on their worst days. Guy gets paid in one check instead of 17 and his salary spreads across 4 or 5 years of the cap instead of one.

The Ravens built in an escape hatch. One that, I'm sure by mere happenstance, coincides with the age where athleticism is known to fall off fairly precipitously. It was savvy - yes, because they know the guy's not going to age well. Because he's NOT the guy you continue to insist he is.

He IS a very dangerous offensive weapon who wins games with his legs. Smoke 'em while you got 'em - no shame in that. But to try to argue otherwise is just asinine.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17361012)

Dammit, Bearcat.

That was the first sensible thing he said all day. He was well on his way to being a valued member of CP!

I mean, he's still better than Chiefbugger....

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17360856)

When the Ravens have the ball:

Spagnuolo is challenging his guys all week to step up against the NFL's #1 ranked rush offense and will scheme as such. The plan will be do everything humanly possible to keep down-and-distance in the Chiefs favor. Lamar has better weapons than he's ever had, but how many teams have 1) kept them out of consistent 2nd/3rd-and-shorts, or 2) boast the talent the Chiefs defense has?

The world will realize pretty quick how vulnerable that Ravens offensive line is in pass protection if Spags and the gang can just be certain to make them work for it. You can't let them run at you the way Buffalo did - you can't fear Lamar as a passer the same way Josh Allen warrants. You CHALLENGE him to win as a passer. If he does? Well that's what Jalen Hurts did to us last year. Still lost, but gave us the best chance to win the game because Spags knows that if we let Baltimore play on their terms, rushing relentlessly, it's over.

When the Chiefs have the ball:

Have to continue to commit to running the football, esp with power/gap schemes. Can you catch BAL in a bad look 2-3 times and let Pacheco take off for 25+ yards? I bet you can if you stick to it. Chiefs are on a heater these last few games of breaking off some explosives. And that's all you need. Can't expect 5.0 YPC consistently -- but you can break some big ones to keep their defense honest.

After that? We count on Mahomes. We count on Kelce against a defense that has let tight ends get the better of them plenty. A playbook that is expanding - no bullets will be withheld in this one. Continue to protect the tackles. Yes, they're playing well, but this won't be easy for them either. It's a great defense - play calls being on-point is a non-negotiable. If they aren't, Mahomes is gonna have to play hero ball all day. But this is the same staff that knew how to take advantage of Philly last year in the red zone, so I don't expect them to fail there.

As a whole, withstand the early energy. Place is gonna be a madhouse early on. Only the Chiefs have the power to zap that energy away and make it quiet.

Originally Posted by zapocalypse (Post 17361001)

We can do this all day. You got b*tchslapped by the Raiders. Its the NFL grind.

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17361016)

If it helps you rest easier at night knowing that Mahomes is married to KC forever, then congrats.

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17361016)

There’s probably some truth in what you’re saying. The Chiefs are willing to commit to Mahomes indefinitely, and they know waiting only makes it more expensive.

But why do the Ravens have to follow that model? Why would they do any of what you’re suggesting when they don’t have to? There’s risk in locking up any QB like that. Yes, even Mahomes.

Everyone and their mother (literally, my mother) thought the Ravens were bungling this last negotiation either by paying him too much or not giving him the guaranteed contract and locking him up. And yet, he signed with the Ravens for a market rate deal that he immediately outperformed.

When this deal is up, what reason is there to believe he would go elsewhere or not be worth a market rate deal when his next contract is due?

If it helps you rest easier at night knowing that Mahomes is married to KC forever, then congrats. The Ravens are doing just fine with their QB and his contract too even if it’s not the same structure.

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17361024)

Just want you to know the Ravens have to All Pro LBs the Phins and Bills were playing with PS LBs
This week will tell if your offense is truly on a heater or did the offense benefit from playing 2 really banged up defense.

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17361006)

The undefeated Patriots lost with the top offense and defense in the league. Someone tell me why I should fear the Ravens?