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'Hamas' Jenkins 04-14-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4684411)
I'm sure this pick will spark argument amongst some and weird feelings among others but this is the end of the draft we are in the 6th round and I'm going to take a player I feel is underrated, will make a very good slot WR/return man who I mentioned earlier...

So with that said the Kansas City Chiefs select...Davone Bess, WR, Hawaii..

Let the debate on that begin...

Translation: 4321, Hamas

ROFL

Mecca 04-14-2008 07:06 PM

Which ones of my players do you hate, honestly in the 3rd King is good value, and Groves fell much further than he should of, I didn't reach on a pure talent guy I took them at good values.....

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-14-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4684418)
Which ones of my players do you hate, honestly in the 3rd King is good value, and Groves fell much further than he should of, I didn't reach on a pure talent guy I took them at good values.....

I personally had some other CBs rated ahead of King, but that's my opinion.

It's the cumulative effect.

If you take NFLDC, for example, Groves actually went 39th, so him falling further than he should...well we'll see because as of now he's slipping.

I wonder about a guy like Barry Richardson, I think he's a WW, I think John Sullivan is a better value there especially given our needs.

Simpson was another WW. I liked him, but not in the 4th.


I think the next 6 DBs taken after Adams were all better prospects than him, and again, he was boosted by workout #s, but that's my board.

You have a strategy and at least you're consistent. But you don't play football in shorts and a tank top.

ChiefsCountry 04-14-2008 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4684412)
That's just reeruned.

Classic case of a prospect who "Looks like Tarzan, Plays Like Jane"...Has all the physical tools you look for but is an underachiever...Could be a steal if some coach can get him to be more nasty but it's difficult to change a guys demeanor and personality.

He drafted him because of his triangle #s.

If you look at his picks post Ellis, all will have the same scouting report "Great athleticism....questionable awareness, lacks consistency/work ethic..."

That's his draft theory, his choice. But those are the decisions in all sports that lead to guys like A.J. Burnett getting 10 million+ per annum.

If he was such a WW, how the hell did he slide from being a first round talent during the college season to 4th and 5th now?

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-14-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4684504)
If he was such a WW, how the hell did he slide from being a first round talent during the college season to 4th and 5th now?

Because he was over valued b/c of his game against Williams two years ago, was considered a 1st rounder last year and played like crap this year.

milkman 04-14-2008 08:29 PM

After Willie Parker, the Steelers have Najeh Davenport, who is a decent change of pace back, Vernon Hayes and Gary Russell, both of whom have that incredible "Eh" factor.

So the Steelers decide to take a shot here with a kid who never realized his potential in college, but still has a chance to attain some of that potential in the NFL.

Wit pick #179, the Steelers select RB Chauncey Washington, USC.

Direckshun 04-14-2008 08:33 PM

Ohhhhhhhh man.

I've loved all of Mecca's late rounders until now. I am not a fan of Bess, I feel that he's slow on the field and he disappeared against Georgia, the only decent defense Hawaii played all year.

Mecca 04-14-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4684597)
Ohhhhhhhh man.

I've loved all of Mecca's late rounders until now. I am not a fan of Bess, I feel that he's slow on the field and he disappeared against Georgia, the only decent defense Hawaii played all year.

I think that's more line and Brennan than him, Bess is a prototypical slot WR, he's not extremely fast but he's a great route runner with very good hands that has been ultra productive.

He's quick and fluid, I think he'll be a very good slot WR it fits his skill set.

Sanka 04-14-2008 11:33 PM

With the 180th pick the Titans select:

Darnell Terrell, CB, Missouri

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-14-2008 11:44 PM

Well, LeCharles Bentley is most likely done, and given the way that this draft has fallen, the Browns are happy with the fact that they can get a likely starter in Round 6.

With the 181st pick, the Cleveland Browns select Cody Wallace, C Texas A&M

Sfeihc 04-15-2008 08:19 AM

Is it Silva or Dixon, D?

Direckshun 04-15-2008 12:20 PM

Players that the Eagles have selected:

1. WR Limas Sweed
2. MLB Curtis Lofton
3. OG Eric Young
4. OLB/SS Wesley Woodyard
5. RB Mike Hart
5. CB Terrence Wheatley
6. DE Johnny Dingle
6. ...

And my current top ten:

1. QB Dennis Dixon (Oregon)
2. SS Jamie Silva (Boston College)
3. RB Justin Forsett (California)
4. OG Donald Thomas (Connecticut)
5. WR Kevin Robinson (Utah State)
6. TE Jacob Tamme (Kentucky)
7. DE Ken Iwebema (Iowa)
8. TE Kellen Davis (Michigan State)
9. CB DeJuan Tribble (Boston College)
10. DT Letroy Guion (Florida State)

At this point there are a couple options for the Eagles, but they've reached the point where they are just looking for people that can contribute. Despite the fact that he is BPA at this point, QB Dennis Dixon is not that player, because the Eagles are loaded at QB 1 through 3.

DE Ken Iwebema was a part of the conversation the last time the Eagles picked a few slots ago, and he's still a prime consideration here, although he'd be doing battle with Chris Clemons and Johnny Dingle for playing time. The Eagles do need a third DE that can play a good number of downs, though.

SS Jamie Silva plays at a position that is far less of a need right now, but his value is undeniable. Again, the Eagles invested in Woodyard in the 4th who could be faster and stronger, but Silva is the intelligent, nerves-of-steel safety the Eagles could use.

So at this point it comes down between Iwebema and Silva. Both players would hedge the Eagles' bets at either S or DE. Both players I value as late 5th rounders. Both players have injury histories.

The Eagles ultimately decide that the quality of safeties in UDFA isn't that much of a drop from the safeties in the 6th -- and they have a couple in particular targeted as steals. The depth at DE is much weaker when the 7th round comes about, and there's a chance Iwebema could be a fantastic value pick if he stays healthy.

With the 182nd pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select DE Ken Iwebema from the University of Iowa.

Direckshun 04-15-2008 12:27 PM

So, that's my Draft for the Eagles. Sandy Limpdick had the first three picks. Thoughts?

1. WR Limas Sweed
2. MLB Curtis Lofton
3. OG Eric Young
4. OLB/SS Wesley Woodyard
5. RB Mike Hart
5. CB Terrence Wheatley
6. DE Johnny Dingle
6. DE Ken Iwebema

The Franchise 04-15-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4685778)
So, that's my Draft for the Eagles. Sandy Limpdick had the first three picks. Thoughts?

1. WR Limas Sweed
2. MLB Curtis Lofton
3. OG Eric Young
4. OLB/SS Wesley Woodyard
5. RB Mike Hart
5. CB Terrence Wheatley
6. DE Johnny Dingle
6. DE Ken Iwebema


I like Rounds 2-6. I think that there could have been a better choice with his 1st round pick. Sweed is decent but I don't know if he's worth a 1st.

Sfeihc 04-15-2008 12:39 PM

Except for Sweed, it looks like a nice influx of talent for the Eagles. Sweed maybe a good player just not sure if he was worth the pick.


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