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chiefzilla1501 08-22-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9905590)
I found a wider angle of that play where Alex crapped his pants. Looks like he could have thrown the ball to Moeaki's right shoulder if he hadn't been staring down Bowe so long. The blitz/coverage just froze him. He needs to come off Bowe a lot quicker.

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Yup. Especially with that safety blitzing.

Mav 08-22-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9905760)
Yet he admitted he wasn't a real Chiefs fan - so when he had a Chiefs avatar and Jamaal Charles signature, he was just pretending to be a Chiefs fan to gain acceptance.



He's a bandwagon Niners/Browns "fan" trolling on a Chiefs board because he has a crush on Alice Smiff.

There is no such thing as a Band wagon browns fan.

ViperVisor 08-22-2013 10:16 AM

What is that RB doing?

Looks like he was doing a Ray Lewis pre game routine.

Hoppin around without a care. Especially If you see the other team sending rushers get your butt in gear.

Would he of even had his head turned around if Smith escapes left and needed him or would he still be meticulously counting out the steps in his route.

Setsuna 08-22-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9905954)
Yup. Especially with that safety blitzing.

Stop trolling. Alex could have used Fisher and his pursuer to chip that safety to give himself more time to throw right down the middle to the receiver that had his defender at his back. Alex Smith sucks as a QB, end of story.

Carlota69 08-22-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9905718)
Glad you found a slightly better look here. Looks like the WR at the top was easily blanketed. The CB was ready for the route. I wouldn't ever recommend throwing that shit. As for Moeaki? It does look like Alex locked in forever on the WR at the top, but with the right side of the OL collapsing in? I doubt Alex even could have seen him.

Now if Alex had turned away and spotted Moeaki as his first read as he ran to the 43? He could have gotten the ball through that mess before it collapsed and we would be talking about a nice quick completion to beat the rush. The risk is that Moeaki isn't yet looking for the pass.. since he isn't the first read.. so Lord only knows what could happen. Add to that, there was no passing lane to do so. The WR route had to be waited on by Alex, since the CB never backpedaled.

I don't see anyone open at all, at any moment since the ball was snapped. Did Alex, pre-snap, see that the short middle would be covered and that's why he locked in on Bowe? I have no idea obviously, but it also looked like Bowe was covered and about to fall down. Maybe he should of thrown it away instead of taking the sack?

L.A. Chieffan 08-22-2013 10:39 AM

JFC who cares. Even if he had miraculously completed it to Moeaki it would have been like a 5 yard gain.

hometeam 08-22-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9906011)
JFC who cares. Even if he had miraculously completed it to Moeaki it would have been like a 5 yard gain.

That's pretty good for Mr Smith.

Hoover 08-22-2013 10:43 AM

I think they were trying to force the ball down the field in the last game, and thus we looked like shit. I'll take the AS from game one.

Sandy Vagina 08-22-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9906006)
I don't see anyone open at all, at any moment since the ball was snapped. Did Alex, pre-snap, see that the short middle would be covered and that's why he locked in on Bowe? I have no idea obviously, but it also looked like Bowe was covered and about to fall down. Maybe he should of thrown it away instead of taking the sack?

Would have been wise to throw it in the stands beyond Bowe instead, yes.

Bowe was clearly his first read.. and Alex reads defenses pre-snap to decide where the ball should go. I think the surprise was.. the CB in that case almost always backpedals.. the SS blitzes.. the ILB clearly wasn't sprinting out to fill the underneath zone... so the CB is expected to backpedal as the last line of defense... but the CB stayed put.

Another point is this... looks like Bowe was to run a 10 yard hitch pattern. So while running, why didn't Bowe see that the CB wasn't giving a cushion and adjust his route shorter? Looks like Alex expected that, and should have.

As for going through other reads, his next read would have been the TE over the middle... and it looks like the collapse on the right would have blocked his view or passing lane to even have a shot.. but that shot would have had to happen much sooner... which means, Alex would have had to give up on Bowe right away.

Carlota69 08-22-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9906028)
Would have been wise to throw it in the stands beyond Bowe instead, yes.

Bowe was clearly his first read.. and Alex reads defenses pre-snap to decide where the ball should go. I think the surprise was.. the CB in that case almost always backpedals.. the SS blitzes.. the ILB clearly wasn't sprinting out to fill the underneath zone... so the CB is expected to backpedal as the last line of defense... but the CB stayed put.

Another point is this... looks like Bowe was to run a 10 yard hitch pattern. So while running, why didn't Bowe see that the CB wasn't giving a cushion and adjust his route shorter? Looks like Alex expected that, and should have.

As for going through other reads, his next read would have been the TE over the middle... and it looks like the collapse on the right would have blocked his view or passing lane to even have a shot.. but that shot would have had to happen much sooner... which means, Alex would have had to give up on Bowe right away.

So bottom line, he should of thrown it away. Thats pretty much what I see.

ptlyon 08-22-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9906039)
So bottom line, he should of thrown it away. Thats pretty much what I see.

So bottom line, he can't make reads. That's what I took from it.

Jakemall 08-22-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9905954)
Yup. Especially with that safety blitzing.

Yeah, he locked on Bowe and when the Safety came he was waiting for Bowe to turn his head, which he did too late. The TE was a good option. Missed that opportunity.

What we don't know is if Bowe is supposed to be keeping an EYE open for that blitz so that he turns earlier...but regardless Alex should have realized that opened up the TE.

Jakemall 08-22-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9906028)
Would have been wise to throw it in the stands beyond Bowe instead, yes.

Bowe was clearly his first read.. and Alex reads defenses pre-snap to decide where the ball should go. I think the surprise was.. the CB in that case almost always backpedals.. the SS blitzes.. the ILB clearly wasn't sprinting out to fill the underneath zone... so the CB is expected to backpedal as the last line of defense... but the CB stayed put.

Another point is this... looks like Bowe was to run a 10 yard hitch pattern. So while running, why didn't Bowe see that the CB wasn't giving a cushion and adjust his route shorter? Looks like Alex expected that, and should have.

As for going through other reads, his next read would have been the TE over the middle... and it looks like the collapse on the right would have blocked his view or passing lane to even have a shot.. but that shot would have had to happen much sooner... which means, Alex would have had to give up on Bowe right away.

Like I said, Alex locked on Bowe. We don't know if Bowe was supposed to adjust, but Alex didn't think to check down to the TE who might have been open since the safety was blitzing.

My problem with the play is that we don't see Alex head look for another option or toss it either short or long of Bowe to avoid the sack.

Jakemall 08-22-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9906055)
So bottom line, he can't make reads. That's what I took from it.

If one play = can't do it..sure.

ptlyon 08-22-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9906062)
Like I said, Alex locked on Bowe. We don't know if Bowe was supposed to adjust, but Alex didn't think to check down to the TE who might have been open since the safety was blitzing.

My problem with the play is that we don't see Alex head look for another option or toss it either short or long of Bowe to avoid the sack.

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