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AustinChief 02-08-2009 05:27 PM

#3 overall pick... a 20 year history
 
08 Matt Ryan
07 Joe Thomas
06 Vince Young
05 Braylon Edwards
04 Larry Fitzgerald
03 Andre Johnson
02 Joey Harrington
01 Gerard Warren
00 Chris Samuels
99 Akili Smith
98 Andre Wadsworth
97 Shawn Springs
96 Simeon Rice
95 Steve McNair
94 Heath Shuler
93 Garrison Hearst
92 Sean Gilbert
91 Bruce Pickens
90 Cortez Kennedy
89 Barry Sanders


Draw your own conclusions. As for myself, if this list is a good indicator, I would go DT, DE, OT or WR... unfortunately we don't have a need that pressing at OT and the DE, DT WR prospects are iffy that high...

I am not in the anti-QB at all cost crowd.. I just really am not sold on THESE two QBs... esp. Stafford...

The Bad Guy 02-08-2009 05:28 PM

12 out of 20 picks have been really good.

Marco Polo 02-08-2009 05:52 PM

To be honest, this may be the first draft that I really don't have a preference on where we draft yet. Last year I was heavy on OL/DL and that happened. We have a lot of holes on our team so I just want the BPA period.

the Talking Can 02-08-2009 05:54 PM

there are no conclusions to draw

it's just a list of picks....

AustinChief 02-08-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5470021)
there are no conclusions to draw

it's just a list of picks....

the list = data - - - from said data... draw your conclusions...

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2009 06:11 PM

Three Pro Bowls QB's, one average QB and two awful QB's.

That's a pretty good percentage with the third pick for 15 years.

Saul Good 02-08-2009 06:11 PM

Interesting trend. From this list, we can expect our pick to be young, most likely male, and with some college education.

the Talking Can 02-08-2009 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 5470038)
the list = data - - - from said data... draw your conclusions...

it is incapable of meaning anything other than "player x was drafted with the 3rd pick"....

not trying to be an ass, but you can't draw any conclusions about the relative merits of drafting a position with the 3rd pick from this...there is no causal relationship between the selection # and the player's success, when limited to a single draft position....

comparing a position to it's success ratio across all rounds of the draft gives you "data" that can be used to draw conclusions....this doesn't

not even sure why i care, so i'll leave you all to your conclusion drawing,,,,

Hootie 02-08-2009 06:19 PM

I think the Talking Can is a total douche bag.

That is all...

doomy3 02-08-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5470054)
Three Pro Bowls QB's, one average QB and two awful QB's.

That's a pretty good percentage with the third pick for 15 years.

I would love to hear how you came to those conclusions...

Who was the average QB?

I guess you would also be happy with a "Pro Bowl" QB like Vince Young too?

And are you anointing Matt Ryan as a Pro Bowl QB?

DaneMcCloud 02-08-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5470081)
I would love to hear how you came to those conclusions...

Who was the average QB?

I guess you would also be happy with a "Pro Bowl" QB like Vince Young too?

And are you anointing Matt Ryan as a Pro Bowl QB?

Harrington: Average.

McNair: Super Bowl QB, former MVP.

Matt Ryan: Rookie of the year, (short on Pro Bowl in year one).

Vince Young: Pro Bowl 2006.

And who the **** cares anyway? It's just a spot. It's not like it's a "Jinxed" number to picking at or something ridiculous.

doomy3 02-08-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5470112)
Harrington: Average.

McNair: Super Bowl QB, former MVP.

Matt Ryan: Rookie of the year, (short on Pro Bowl in year one).

Vince Young: Pro Bowl 2006.

So, I guess you would be happy with any of those players at #3 then. Is that what you're saying?

Ultra Peanut 02-08-2009 06:49 PM

BUT MOMMY I'M SCAAAAAARED OF DRAFTING A QB

Mecca 02-08-2009 06:53 PM

You know what conclusion I draw from that?

You don't take a OLB with the pick.

AustinChief 02-08-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5470160)
You know what conclusion I draw from that?

You don't take a OLB with the pick.

see, there is a smart conclusion!

Talking Can... there is plenty of data here to draw a number of conclusions...


for example, you don't draft OLB, kicker, punter etc at this position...


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