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big nasty kcnut 02-09-2009 05:53 AM

Who has more td then
 
Matt ryan,joe flacco and ben rothlitberger. Why it's our own tyler thigpen and all 3 qbs i'd mention were in the playoff. So don't be so quick to dismiss him.
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Mecca 02-09-2009 05:56 AM

Yea which ones have played in the playoffs and won Superbowls?

If anyone thinks Tyler Thigpen could sniff that drive or throw Roethlisberger made to win the bowl I question their sanity.

CrazyHorse 02-09-2009 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5471123)
Yea which ones have played in the playoffs and won Superbowls?

If anyone thinks Tyler Thigpen could sniff that drive or throw Roethlisberger made to win the bowl I question their sanity.

If he's so great, why aren't his numbers higher?

Mecca 02-09-2009 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5471124)
If he's so great, why aren't his numbers higher?

This argument proves why stats are overrated...

If you watched the Superbowl and have ANY question as to whether Roethlisberger is that teams franchise player, I can't help you.

CrazyHorse 02-09-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5471125)
This argument proves why stats are overrated...

If you watched the Superbowl and have ANY question as to whether Roethlisberger is that teams franchise player, I can't help you.

Personally. I give credit to the defense.

You must be saying the 2 defenses are equal. Or perhaps all other things are equal?

Stats are not the beginning and end of a players productivity. Oh wait, yes they are. The stats aren't everything arguement are for those left with no arguement.

Ben makes plays at times. But is not the reason the Steelers made the SB, or won the SB. However the defense is. Without that 100 yard int, the Card would have won that game.

It was thier defense. Statistics will prove that out.

Agent V 02-09-2009 06:10 AM

Taking Thigpen over Roethlisberger.

....is this fanbase losing its damn mind?

Mecca 02-09-2009 06:13 AM

Yea the Steelers defense won the bowl when they not only gave up 1 but 2 TD's in the 4th quarter one of which was a 50 yarder..

Their defense absolutely folded in the biggest moment of the biggest game, if they had been built to have a game manager QB like say the past Chiefs or the Titans they'd have lost..

Roethlisberger won that game.

You are in no way going to tell me the Steelers defense won that bowl.

InChiefsHeaven 02-09-2009 06:13 AM

How else do you measure a player, if not by his stats? IMO, Thiggy doesn't suck, he can play at this level, but only time will tell if he is the solution. We don't know jack about any college QB at this point...except that they were good in college.

CrazyHorse 02-09-2009 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5471128)
Taking Thigpen over Roethlisberger.

....is this fanbase losing its damn mind?

I'm not quite ready to say that. But I understand the arguement that it's early to say Thigpen can't play in the NFL. It's too early to give up on him. IMO

Mecca 02-09-2009 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5471131)
I'm not quite ready to say that. But I understand the arguement that it's early to say Thigpen can't play in the NFL. It's too early to give up on him. IMO

I might have a different opinion of he had played from under center and displayed proper footwork and ability to drop back and not had to have an entire college gimmick offense implemented so he could even play.

I don't believe the Chiefs future is the spread so why would I want a spread monkey QB who has shown no ability to play in a NFL offense?

Agent V 02-09-2009 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5471131)
I'm not quite ready to say that. But I understand the arguement that it's early to say Thigpen can't play in the NFL. It's too early to give up on him. IMO

And I understand people don't want to give up on him. Watching the last few games, I just thought it was obvious his accuracy is godawful, and that's one of the scariest weaknesses in a quarterback. You can't fix it.

Of course, this is dependent on the new offensive scheme. If we don't continue the spread, Thiggy is not the answer by a long shot.

Mecca 02-09-2009 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5471133)
And I understand people don't want to give up on him. Watching the last few games, I just thought it was obvious his accuracy is godawful, and that's one of the scariest weaknesses in a quarterback. You can't fix it.

Of course, this is dependent on the new offensive scheme. If we don't continue the spread, Thiggy is not the answer by a long shot.

I want to know why anyone in their right mind would want to or would think we'd continue the spread?

Agent V 02-09-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 5471130)
How else do you measure a player, if not by his stats? IMO, Thiggy doesn't suck, he can play at this level, but only time will tell if he is the solution. We don't know jack about any college QB at this point...except that they were good in college.

All we know about Thigpen is that he's competent in a spread offense.

CrazyHorse 02-09-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5471129)
Yea the Steelers defense won the bowl when they not only gave up 1 but 2 TD's in the 4th quarter one of which was a 50 yarder..

Their defense absolutely folded in the biggest moment of the biggest game, if they had been built to have a game manager QB like say the past Chiefs or the Titans they'd have lost..

Roethlisberger won that game.

You are in no way going to tell me the Steelers defense won that bowl.


Okee dokee. The Steelers #1 defense in practically every category is less responsible for the Steelers making and winning the SB than a middle of the road QB.

Got it.

Take care

Agent V 02-09-2009 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5471136)
Okee dokee. The Steelers #1 defense in practically every category is less responsible for the Steelers making and winning the SB than a middle of the road QB.

Got it.

Take care

Well, you have to admit, in the end it was Ben who won it.


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