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kcbubb 05-27-2009 09:24 AM

I like Herm's method better...
 
I would rather play with a bunch of young players and develop them than sign a bunch of old guys if we know that we are going to be bad. Most people seem to believe that the Chiefs are going to be lucky to win six games.

If that is the case, why not look for the next Brandon Carr, Mark Bradley or Mike Cox??? It's hard to find those guys if they don't get a chance to play.

Why are we wasting this valuable playing time on players like Zach Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Mike Goff, and Bobby Engram??? I am sure that they will contribute and play well for the Chiefs at times.

If we were a team that were close to making a playoff run, I would welcome the addition of the older players, but the Chiefs are still developing their roster especially with the change to the 3-4.

If we are going to be bad, I would really rather see Brian Johnston play rather than Vrabel. And I would rather see Quinten Lawrence play rather than Engram.

Or are you one that believes that these older players provide valuable leadership???

LaChapelle 05-27-2009 09:27 AM

Off the street guys to fill out the roster? Haley was only being a prick.

keg in kc 05-27-2009 09:28 AM

Not so much valuable leadership as experienced players to fill numerous holes. There's going to be a lot of roster turnover from 2009 to 2011 and I don't think you just throw bodies out there and hope you get lucky. The mentality of how to build a team is different now than it was a year ago, too, they're as (or more) concerned with cohesiveness and the "team concept" as they are with sheer talent. Personally, I think this is the way to go.

DeezNutz 05-27-2009 09:28 AM

The next Mark Bradley? He's 27.

milkman 05-27-2009 09:29 AM

The best way is somehwere in the middle.

You need a good mix of youth and experience.

You need vets who know how to prepare, who understand the game, who serve as mentors and examples for the kids you bring in.

But you have to always be looking for young guys that can repace the vets as their skills diminish.

The Steelers serve as the best example of the way things should work.

And Herman ****ing Edwards can choke on Donkey balls.

Deberg_1990 05-27-2009 09:30 AM

Yes, Herms way was the best. He just needed more time.

kcbubb 05-27-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5796029)
The next Mark Bradley? He's 27.

Engram is 36.

Bradley was a street free agent that has shown that he has the ability to contribute and possibly be our #2 receiver.

Dr. Johnny Fever 05-27-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5796023)
Iif we know that we are going to be bad.

I doubt Haley/Pioli are willing to just accept being bad.

Brock 05-27-2009 09:32 AM

I didn't really see a method.

Buehler445 05-27-2009 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5796030)
The best way is somehwere in the middle.

You need a good mix of youth and experience.

You need vets who know how to prepare, who understand the game, who serve as mentors and examples for the kids you bring in.

But you have to always be looking for young guys that can repace the vets as their skills diminish.

The Steelers serve as the best example of the way things should work.

And Herman ****ing Edwards can choke on Donkey balls.

Pretty much this. Who out there is getting hosed because Vrable will be starting?
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JuicesFlowing 05-27-2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5796032)
Yes, Herms way was the best. He just needed more time.

And about 12 more quarterbacks, just to be safe.:D

Reerun_KC 05-27-2009 09:33 AM

You should be banned for life for even thinking that Herms dipshittery was the best...

6 wins in 2 years? 15 in 3?

You have to be ****ing kidding right?

Reerun_KC 05-27-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 5796038)
I doubt Haley/Pioli are willing to just accept being bad.

Herm embraced it and instilled losing into this franchise... He is all that is wrong with professional sports...

kcbubb 05-27-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5796032)
Yes, Herms way was the best. He just needed more time.

When you have a team that you know won't make the playoffs, I think you should look for those young guys that can be a building block for your team, not sign a bunch of old guys that won't help you long term.

Reerun_KC 05-27-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5796049)
When you have a team that you know won't make the playoffs, I think you should look for those young guys that can be a building block for your team, not sign a bunch of old guys that won't help you long term.

Or go Herms route and draft and sign players that cant help your team long or short term.... This roster is a ****ing mess thanks to Herm and his keen eye for talent...


Herm hurt this franchise more than helped it... His lack of talent evaluation skills set us back years...


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