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Earthling 01-30-2014 12:17 PM

Game manager. What is that exactly?
 
During the course of the season the term 'game manager' has been used frequently to describe certain QB's in the league; usually in a negative sense. I was curious if there is a consensus on just what the heck that means to people here.

To me a game manager isn't a bad thing. I see it as someone who tries to keep moving the chains, and if that takes three plays of 4 yard gains, be it running or passing, that's ok as long as the chains keep moving.

Of course if the team is down by several scores, or time becomes an issue, then longer chunks of yardage would be necessary. To me a game manager would recognize that fact and try to manage the game accordingly at that point.

What do you all think? And is the opposite of a game manager a game mis-manager? :hmmm:

KC native 01-30-2014 12:18 PM

There are better forums for you to post on. Just sayin'

listopencil 01-30-2014 12:18 PM

The opposite of a game manager is a play maker.

Earthling 01-30-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10402402)
There are better forums for you to post on. Just sayin'

Which forum would have been best?

notorious 01-30-2014 12:22 PM

Game manager gives your team a chance to win if the team plays well.


Elite guys can win a game under any condition.

KC native 01-30-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Earthling (Post 10402405)
Which forum would have been best?

WPI

OldSchool 01-30-2014 12:25 PM

Smith would be more accurately described as the Field General type of QB. He's not going to take big gambles if he needs to, but always knows the situation that the team is in and will play and make adjustments according to what the current situation calls for.

ShortRoundChief 01-30-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10402412)
WPI

Would you try it and let us know how it is?

Earthling 01-30-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10402409)
Game manager gives your team a chance to win if the team plays well.


Elite guys can win a game under any condition.

Would you consider the opposite to be true; that if a team played poorly and the elite qb lost, the loss would be on the qb?

ShortRoundChief 01-30-2014 12:29 PM

I think people get too wrapped up in labels, tbh.


I feel that the most important question is can you win with this quarterback?

If that is a yes then you look at whether you are winning despite the quarterback or he's contributing to the victory. Then you have to look at if an upgrade is available and if that is a yes then you have to weigh out the impact to salary cap, chemistry, and learning curve. Then base your decision on that.

Earthling 01-30-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10402422)
I think people get too wrapped up in labels, tbh.


I feel that the most important question is can you win with this quarterback?

If that is a yes then you look at whether you are winning despite the quarterback or he's contributing to the victory. Then you have to look at if an upgrade is available and if that is a yes then you have to weigh out the impact to salary cap, chemistry, and learning curve. Then base your decision on that.

Totally agree with your assessment.

BossChief 01-30-2014 12:37 PM

Alex Smith was a playmaking quarterback down the stretch and played at an elite level in the playoff game.

With Andy as his coach, his game manager days are over.

Earthling 01-30-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10402443)
Alex Smith was a playmaking quarterback down the stretch and played at an elite level in the playoff game.

With Andy as his coach, his game manager days are over.

I think he is/was both.

chiefzilla1501 01-30-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10402409)
Game manager gives your team a chance to win if the team plays well.


Elite guys can win a game under any condition.

The problem is people confuse elite guys as being high yardage guys.

Game managers burn more clock, keep the defense fresh, and are terrific at third down efficiency. I hate, hate, hate how this term has become a catch all for terrible qbs who play behind great defenses. Eli Manning and big Ben are at their best when they manage games, as long as we stop with the silly idea that great qbs prefer shootouts.

King_Chief_Fan 01-30-2014 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10402422)
I think people get too wrapped up in labels, tbh.


I feel that the most important question is can you win with this quarterback?

If that is a yes then you look at whether you are winning despite the quarterback or he's contributing to the victory. Then you have to look at if an upgrade is available and if that is a yes then you have to weigh out the impact to salary cap, chemistry, and learning curve. Then base your decision on that.

see, there you go. Trying to be sensible...this place can't handle that.


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