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Direckshun 03-17-2015 10:05 PM

Late night bullshit: drafting the Chiefs in the CP Mock.
 
Thanks to the ChiefsPlanet Mock gods (I.e. Pesty), I'm representing the Chiefs in this year's Mock.

I'm reasoning out my picks as much as time allows when my turn pops up, and I'll dump my reasoning for each pick in here for your ridicule and/or hero worship.

The mock doesn't allow for compensatory picks, but I'll make ersatz selections in this thread, too.

The OP will be updated as the mock goes on.

1. OL Cameron Erving, Florida State
2. WR Devin Smith, Ohio State
3. WR Justin Hardy, East Carolina
3. OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, Washington
4. ILB Taiwan Jones, Michigan State

Fat Elvis 03-17-2015 10:07 PM

Your draft sucks already.

O.city 03-17-2015 10:07 PM

Poopyassfarts

Bowser 03-17-2015 10:07 PM

http://www.thefablife.com/files/2011/05/exasperated.gif

RealSNR 03-17-2015 10:07 PM

What the ****?

We've had comp picks in the CP Mock the past many years. What the hell are you smoking?

Bowser 03-17-2015 10:07 PM

Go spoon with Sacc

O.city 03-17-2015 10:08 PM

Actually I get it though. Makes sense.

Direckshun 03-17-2015 10:08 PM

For our first rounder:

The Chiefs have several options here that cross their mind.

They have the next Jamaal Charles. They have a physically-handcrafted-by-the-gods WR on the board. They have not one but FIVE tackles, two of which have LT upside in case Eric Fisher falters. They have a utility offensive lineman who can play every position. They have a passrusher with ridiculous potential. And they have a gargantuan, powerful nose tackle.

Like virtually every NFL team that's ever drafted (no matter what they say), I don't draft BPA blindly, at least in the first round. If I did, we'd have Jamaal Charles and Melvin Gordon in the backfield in Kansas City.

Instead, I draft for the player that will help the Chiefs the most in the short- and long-term. And that cancels out the RB, the OLB, and the NT.

And that leaves the OL options and DGB. (I am not an Armstead fan, and this is too early for any of the remaining QBs, CBs, ILBs, or Maxx Williams.)

DGB will not be the Chiefs selection in this mock. I am not convinced he has what it takes to succeed in the NFL, and even though Kelvin Benjamin is the guy ringing in everybody's ears right now, DGB has far more in common with the dumpster fire that was Johnny Baldwin. It's possible that DGB gets drafted in the 1st round in the ACTUAL NFL draft, given his promise, but it's unlikely he becomes the 1,000 yard receiver his natural abilities suggest. It's far more likely he's going to be dead weight.

That does leave us with the OL options, all of which I grade roughly equally. I won't go through each of them, because you guys hate that for some reason. So I'll just review what the Chiefs need.

At LT, they have Eric Fisher. Fisher has every physical and mental tool to be an effective LT in the NFL. He's struggled greatly due to a slower-than-hoped learning curve and constant (minor) health issues, which he's now recovered from. He's also the 1st overall pick from 2013, so he's going to have an incredible long leash. I still believe in Eric Fisher, probably foolishly, and I don't see an immediate need to draft a potential LT to man his spot should he fail in 2015.

At RT, they have Derek Sherrod, Donald Stephenson, and Jeff Allen. None of these guys are top-half RT material, but all would provide roughly the quality Ryan Harris did last year. Which is to say, not great.

At guard, we now have four starting-caliber guards in Grubbs, Fanaika, Allen, and Fulton. They are not world beaters, but the position isn't the dumpster fire it was after Jeff Allen went down in 2015. I believe Grubbs and Fanaika will be our starters, with Fulton at swing guard.

Center is incredibly hard to project, because nobody knows what to make of Eric Kush, who has played fairly well in preseason and against the Chargers a year ago.

The Chiefs needs at OL are surefire starters at C and RT. So why not get a guy that can play both positions as well as any prospect the 2015 NFL Draft has to offer?

The Chiefs select OL Cameron Erving, from Florida State University.

Erving played ONE season at center at FSU, and already became the best the nation has to offer. Keeping him there to develop offers embarrassingly high upside.

Unless of course the staff falls in love with Kush, and Allen, Stephenson, and Sherrod continue bringing nothing to the table at RT. In which case, Erving was an excellent left tackle for the Seminoles -- and yes, he does offer LT versatility, as well as guard versatility. If you're trying to figure out the Rubik's Cube of the Chiefs offensive line, it helps to have a block that could be any color you want.

Erving has gotten extremely strong the past year, and is an exceptional athlete at pulling out into space. Erving's biggest issues are all technique-related (particularly his kickslide), making him a perfect fit under Andy Reid's tutelage. Dorsey is sure to love his 34"+ arms, which are unheard of at center. Florida State's program has an excellent track record with their centers, anyway -- the Chiefs just let an FSU center walk into free agency and get paid over $9m/year.

The Cowboys and the 49ers have shown the value of stocking your OL with first round picks who end up panning out. While that is not my preferred approach for building a roster, the upside is that it makes life easier on great RBs, and allows more routes to open up downfield in the passing game.

Whether you like it or not, and there is no doubt 80% of you will hate this pick, the Chiefs... have won themselves the draft. I'm just waiting for all of you to catch up.

The Browns are on the clock.

O.city 03-17-2015 10:10 PM

Basically, you're banking on getting the next Hudson for cheaper.

I'd look elsewhere but i get it

Bowser 03-17-2015 10:11 PM

http://i.minus.com/iAF3giPSbOFcu.gif

Dante84 03-17-2015 10:12 PM

Insert the true fan clapping gif

O.city 03-17-2015 10:13 PM

At 18 this year, unless something crazy happens and someone falls, the chiefs aren't likely to be able to take a blue chipper but can absolutely take a guy who can be a 10 year pro who could develop into an all pro.

Good place to be

RealSNR 03-17-2015 10:16 PM

I understand that Kush scares the shit out of a lot of people, but honestly, this is a stupid obsession some people have with filling that hole right here, right now.

It took Rodney Hudson a long time to figure shit out in the NFL. Expect the same for Cam Erving. If he underperforms, we have no choice but to get insurance for HIM next year.

Because honestly, the very problem we've had with building this offensive line the past many years has been an issue of, "I'm not worried about _______. We drafted him high. He's a good player. He'll be fine."

Only one of those players turned out to be "fine," and he's already gone. Asamoah, Stephenson, and Allen are all smelly turds and Fisher's Bustday Clock is reading 11:59 right now.

O.city 03-17-2015 10:18 PM

You know what, you're right.

Kush is gonna start and he's gonna be a badass. He works his frickin tail off I know that. He's very intelligent t and determined about this as well.

Discuss Thrower 03-17-2015 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11389719)
What the ****?

We've had comp picks in the CP Mock the past many years. What the hell are you smoking?

THIS.


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