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dlphg9 10-12-2022 02:18 PM

Don't blame MEH for his performance Monday night
 
I'm no fan of MEH and I never have been, so its hard for me to say this, but his lack of production in the run game on Monday night is on the OL. They did an atrocious job of blocking for him. My initial reaction from the game was that he just had one of his typical shitty games that we have grown accustom to seeing from him, but a look into the stats show that the offensive line failed him.

Clyde had 9 carries for a total of 15 yds, but the most telling stat is his yards before contact (YBC). In his career he has averaged 2.3 YBC/ATT, but Monday night he only had 6 yards before contact on 9 rushes. That comes out to 0.3 YBC/ATT and that means he was getting his pretty much at the line of scrimmage every single play. That is the 2nd lowest YBC/ATT for his entire career and the only game that was less? The Colts game a couple weeks back. In that game he had -6 YBC on 7 rushes. That comes out to -0.9 YBC/ATT.

So lets try to stop blaming him so much for his crappy stats on Monday, because the OL didn't help him even a little.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-12-2022 02:20 PM

Translation, our OL sux!

O.city 10-12-2022 02:23 PM

Meanwhile, what was McKinnons?

Graystoke 10-12-2022 02:24 PM

MEH?

siberian khatru 10-12-2022 02:28 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have great blocking numbers here and a backside lane opens up. I believe the saying goes, when god closes a door. You run right into it. Forget that window. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/Atbniopo8K">pic.twitter.com/Atbniopo8K</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1580213614400921600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nickhead 10-12-2022 02:28 PM

if KC doesn't do to Buffalo what it did to Tampa, this could be a loss. :thumb:

siberian khatru 10-12-2022 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16525574)
Meanwhile, what was McKinnons?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is just completely different when McKinnon is in the backfield. The speed, the vision, NO hesitation and acceleration. So FREAKING GOOD. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/v4OQXVTugD">pic.twitter.com/v4OQXVTugD</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1580215965156974598?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16525590)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have great blocking numbers here and a backside lane opens up. I believe the saying goes, when god closes a door. You run right into it. Forget that window. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/Atbniopo8K">pic.twitter.com/Atbniopo8K</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1580213614400921600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn CEH for running to a hole that closes because his blocker trips on his face.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-12-2022 02:32 PM

It really seems like EVERY time McKinnon gets the ball he makes bank

DJ's left nut 10-12-2022 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525596)
Damn CEH for running to a hole that closes because his blocker trips on his face.

I assume you mean Burton? Because Burton was going to the next level to block and MEH never got there. He got stuffed in the B gap because Allegretti wasn't able create a lane.

And because he didn't take the massive lane available to him in the B gap on the left side. Hell, he could've hit the A cap off Allegretti and stuck behind Creed for a 3 yard or so gain.

That run was entirely on Clyde. He's just not very good.

Mecca 10-12-2022 02:34 PM

Helaire literally has no vision or burst, he needs wide open holes that stay open to gain yards.

DJ's left nut 10-12-2022 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16525593)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is just completely different when McKinnon is in the backfield. The speed, the vision, NO hesitation and acceleration. So FREAKING GOOD. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/v4OQXVTugD">pic.twitter.com/v4OQXVTugD</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1580215965156974598?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

8 yards there? Clyde gets...what, 2? Figure he'd probably try to go right off Thuney's hip and get swallowed up?

There are lanes that we can't see based on the camera angles we have. I'm betting the CEH defenders watch that same run if Clyde is the ballcarrier and when he gets stuffed for 2 they say that's all it was blocked up for. Meanwhile McKinnon just keeps flowing until Burton hits his seal block and bursts immediately into the seam it creates.

He's a better ballcarrier. MEH is is just not very good at running the football.

Mecca 10-12-2022 02:38 PM

If Helaire was a 5th round pick and not a 1st round pick, he'd have been cut by now.

jd1020 10-12-2022 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16525602)
I assume you mean Burton? Because Burton was going to the next level to block and MEH never got there. He got stuffed in the B gap because Allegretti wasn't able create a lane.

And because he didn't take the massive lane available to him in the B gap on the left side. Hell, he could've hit the A cap off Allegretti and stuck behind Creed for a 3 yard or so gain.

That run was entirely on Clyde. He's just not very good.

So this is Clyde's fault? I'm not acting like hes all world or anything but you literally just listed off a bunch of failures on the OL to do their job and pass it off on Clyde for not making chicken salad out of chicken shit.

The mental gymnastics people have to go through to shit on a guy that's 4.4 YPC for his career is pretty insane.

No he's not great. No he's not worth the draft pick. Also, no there isn't a better RB on this team.

htismaqe 10-12-2022 02:41 PM

Good ****ing God. It's Bills week and people are arguing about ****ing CEH.


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