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siberian khatru 03-19-2025 12:27 PM

Three proposed NFL rules changes
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝗕𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴: Three NFL teams have submitted rule change proposals:<br><br>The Packers: Ban the brotherly shove/tush push<br><br>The Lions: Remove automatic first down for defensive holding and illegal contact penalties<br><br>The Eagles: Change the overtime rules of the regular season to… <a href="https://t.co/RazrK64h9U">pic.twitter.com/RazrK64h9U</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1902381276847349961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-19-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 18003289)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝗕𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴: Three NFL teams have submitted rule change proposals:<br><br>The Packers: Ban the brotherly shove/tush push<br><br>The Lions: Remove automatic first down for defensive holding and illegal contact penalties<br><br>The Eagles: Change the overtime rules of the regular season to… <a href="https://t.co/RazrK64h9U">pic.twitter.com/RazrK64h9U</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1902381276847349961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

yes, no, yes

htismaqe 03-19-2025 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 18003290)
yes, no, yes

I wouldn't vote yes to #2 either but would be willing to entertain DPI being a 15-yard penalty instead of a spot foul.

ThaVirus 03-19-2025 12:35 PM

I’m open to all of these. Wouldn’t care if none pass at the same time.

In general, I think the tush push makes for a less enjoyable product on the field. It’s a bit more painful for the average C, Gs and DTs than your typical play, which might invite a greater injury risk. It’s also just very muddy. Did they get the first down? Didn’t they? Who the **** knows! Can’t see shit with 3,000 pounds of man meat all smushed together.

I’ve long hated the auto 1st down for defensive holding and illegal contact. I’m not sure making it a simple 5 or 10 yard penalty is a better solution so I’ll wait to see how that goes..

Extra regular season means bonus football so I wouldn’t hate it but I do like the current system during the regular season. It emphasizes that football is a team sport, which includes defense. If your team gives up a TD on the first drive of OT, they simply didn’t deserve the win. That’s just the way she goes.

DaKCMan AP 03-19-2025 12:37 PM

Yes to all 3.

It's infuriating when you have a 3rd and long or 4th and long and a defensive holding gives an auto 1st down. Make it equal to an offensive hold - 10 yards.

Gary Cooper 03-19-2025 12:37 PM

I agree with the Lions. Tired of every 5 yard penalty (besides offsides) resulting in an automatic first down.

ThaVirus 03-19-2025 12:40 PM

I’m open to all of these. Wouldn’t care if none pass at the same time.

In general, I think the tush push makes for a less enjoyable product on the field. It’s a bit more painful for the average C, Gs and DTs than your typical play, which might invite a greater injury risk. It’s also just very muddy. Did they get the first down? Didn’t they? Who the **** knows! Can’t see shit with 3,000 pounds of man meat all smushed together.

I’ve long hated the auto 1st down for defensive holding and illegal contact. I’m not sure making it a simple 5 or 10 yard penalty is a better solution so I’ll wait to see how that goes..

Extra regular season means bonus football so I wouldn’t hate it but I do like the current system during the regular season. It emphasizes that football is a team sport, which includes defense. If your team gives up a TD on the first drive of OT, they simply didn’t deserve the win. That’s just the way she goes.

Mecca 03-19-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18003295)
I wouldn't vote yes to #2 either but would be willing to entertain DPI being a 15-yard penalty instead of a spot foul.

They'll never do that, NFL players are way smarter than college kids and would literally tackle guys if they were beat 30 yards downfield.

smithandrew051 03-19-2025 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18003295)
I wouldn't vote yes to #2 either but would be willing to entertain DPI being a 15-yard penalty instead of a spot foul.

Only problem with that is Worthy is just going to get tackled as soon as he’s about to beat a DB.

It might create too much gray area, but I’d almost like to see something where an underthrown ball equals 15 yards and a good throw is a spot foul.

That’s the one that annoys me. A bad throw brings the receiver back through the DB and results in a spot foul.

New World Order 03-19-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 18003308)
Yes to all 3.

It's infuriating when you have a 3rd and long or 4th and long and a defensive holding gives an auto 1st down. Make it equal to an offensive hold - 10 yards.

Especially illegal contact.

That is the most subjective call in football

Gary Cooper 03-19-2025 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 18003320)
They'll never do that, NFL players are way smarter than college kids and would literally tackle guys if they were beat 30 yards downfield.

NFL players being smart is a strange statement.

I've never thought college football has a problem with that rule. The DBs aren't going wild with PI. And if they were, I'm assuming the NCAA would change that rule by now.

bigjosh 03-19-2025 12:59 PM

I would like to see PI be half the distance to spot of the foul, and no auto first down


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Mecca 03-19-2025 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 18003335)
NFL players being smart is a strange statement.

I've never thought college football has a problem with that rule. The DBs aren't going wild with PI. And if they were, I'm assuming the NCAA would change that rule by now.

Because elite WR's create major separation in college, in the NFL it's smaller...how often is someone just wide ass open in the NFL?

Also recovery speed, if a WR is 4 yards ahead of a CB 40 yards downfield and he sees dudes hands go up he'd just tackle him 15 is better than 50.

Gary Cooper 03-19-2025 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 18003343)
Because elite WR's create major separation in college, in the NFL it's smaller...how often is someone just wide ass open in the NFL?

Also recovery speed, if a WR is 4 yards ahead of a CB 40 yards downfield and he sees dudes hands go up he'd just tackle him 15 is better than 50.

I get the idea but it doesn't always play out that way. You have to remember that many of these penalties happen on 3rd down or 4th down where you really don't want to take a penalty. Conceding even 15 yards can be a backbreaker for a defense.

BlackHelicopters 03-19-2025 01:10 PM

Yes,no,yes


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