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Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 01:59 PM

ONE HILLUVA STORY - HOW TYREEK IS NOT ONLY INNOCENT – HE IS A VICTIM
 
https://www.scribd.com/document/4142...TXOVfx-b5jwkNg

This is a long ass article and definitely worth your time.

7.14.19 update:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Without further delay - we present some additional research. This article isn&#39;t about suspensions. This is now 100% about daylighting wrongs and helping someone caught in a tangled web of manipulation and pain. <a href="https://t.co/bQNC8Cyju4">https://t.co/bQNC8Cyju4</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Kingdom Editorial Board (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1150543493258854400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This morning at 6am PST, we received images labeled States Evidence &amp; Court Transcripts from Tyreek&#39;s March 9, 2015 Probable Cause hearing. You can read about how Tyreek asked Crystal to leave his place on 12/11/14 before stuff went down &amp; more .... <a href="https://t.co/jz0Hqj052i">https://t.co/jz0Hqj052i</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Kingdom Editorial Board (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1150918686250692608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

el borracho 06-23-2019 02:04 PM

1st

ptlyon 06-23-2019 02:06 PM

2nd

TimeForWasp 06-23-2019 02:10 PM

turd

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 02:11 PM

****, I said all this back in March.

Rabble-damas.

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 02:11 PM

So basically everything we knew already put into a single article or did I miss something?

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14318884)
So basically everything we knew already put into a single article or did I miss something?

You missed everything.

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14318888)
You missed everything.

Hows that again?
Wasnt it weeks ago we knew it boiled down to extortion, Hill was most likely innocent of all wrongdoing and he would most likely serve a small suspension.
What did I miss?

dirk digler 06-23-2019 02:18 PM

I think it is positive news that Hill met with the NFL a couple of weeks ago and that the FBI is looking into the Espinal family for extortion.

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 02:18 PM

Dont get me wrong. I'm glad they put it in am article and hopefully it makes its rounds ( it wont but here's to hoping)

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14318894)
Wasnt it weeks ago we knew it boiled down to extortion

This has not been reported by anyone.

Nor has the fact that Hill has met with the NFL.

Nor has the facts of the Espinal-Media conspiracy.

Nor has the re-characterization of Tyreek's "threat."

Please stop.

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14318900)
This has not been reported by anyone.

Nor has the fact that Hill has met with the NFL.

Nor has the facts of the Espinal-Media conspiracy.

Nor has the re-characterization of Tyreek's "threat."

Please stop.

Reported no, posted yes.
Maybe not in as much detail but we all knew he met with the league probably almost immediately and then after.
Media conspiracy is new...sort of. We all knew 9 minutes of the phone call is missing and we put two and two together.
We also discussed what Hill may have meant with the Threat as soon as it came out about the texts.

TribalElder 06-23-2019 02:26 PM

In

Free the cheetah

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14318904)
In

Free the cheetah

Initially I overreacted like many and within a couple days thought to wait it out and look objectionably at it.
This article along with a lot of theories posted here over the last few months make me appreciate the man Hill may have become. He very well could have turned a corner and become what his kids will need. Good for him and good for us fans.

Dante84 06-23-2019 02:35 PM

As far as “new” news for us:
+ NFL met with Hill and his team last week and the general mood was good
+ Hill shared that his threat wasn’t physical but rather based on what he has on her (still unknown)
+ because of optics, NFL may suspend for 1-2 games, dropped from four


A lot of speculation about the Espinal family targeting Brooke Pryor and KCTV5.
Speculation that the Espinal family/Crystal is being investigated by the FBI for extortion.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 02:36 PM

UPVOTE:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...ased/?sort=new

And someone get this on r/NFL

Skyy God 06-23-2019 02:37 PM

Good read. High points:

1) 1-2 game suspension likely based on threat optics.

2) Prior to the abuse allegation, Hill and the Chiefs were close to an extension, but Drew Rosenhaus balked.

3) Likely the Chiefs extend Hill for 3 years on a smaller deal. Yea scandal discount.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14318914)
A lot of speculation about the Espinal family targeting Brooke Pryor and KCTV5.
Speculation that the Espinal family/Crystal is being investigated by the FBI for extortion.

How do you know that's only speculation?

Dante84 06-23-2019 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14318919)
How do you know that's only speculation?

Didn’t say it was a bad thing re: speculation. Just saying that it hasn’t been confirmed anywhere.

I want to believe it too.

Discuss Thrower 06-23-2019 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14318916)
UPVOTE:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...ased/?sort=new

And someone get this on r/NFL

oh yeah. An article referring to Espinal as 'batshit crazy' is definitely going to fly in that SJW-dominated outlet
:rolleyes:

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14318921)
Didn’t say it was a bad thing re: speculation. Just saying that it hasn’t been confirmed anywhere.

I want to believe it too.

****, this thread is going to get the RR treatment.

Dante84 06-23-2019 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14318924)
****, this thread is going to get the RR treatment.

Hey if I’m incorrect, please correct me and tell me how. Like I said, will be happy if that’s the case.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14318914)
A lot of speculation about the Espinal family targeting Brooke Pryor and KCTV5.

HAHAHA

Right. Because this doesn't exist:

https://i.imgur.com/hOxhEkt.jpg

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 06-23-2019 02:46 PM

No information here. Awful article, IMO. Misleading thread title.

Fact: Tyreek has more abuse allegations than receptions in the AFC Championship game.

Imon Yourside 06-23-2019 02:46 PM

I'm not making any judgements until I hear from Deflowereeod

Dante84 06-23-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14318929)
HAHAHA

Right. Because this doesn't exist:

https://i.imgur.com/hOxhEkt.jpg

I’m not challenging you, relax.

That’s the tweet that set things off. I agree.

The stuff around it is speculation.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14318937)
I’m not challenging you, relax.

That’s the tweet that set things off. I agree.

The stuff around it is speculation.

Dude. That is Crystal's godmother.

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to put two and two together, even with the "published facts" we know.

Dante84 06-23-2019 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14318942)
Dude. That is Crystal's godmother.

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to put two and two together, even with the "published facts" we know.

I’m aware. The article says Brooke and KCTV were targeted. That tweet hits all KC news stations, and not Brooke.

I’m not trying to argue or shit on the article. I’m just saying that there is some speculation, which I hope proves right.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14318928)
Hey if I’m incorrect, please correct me and tell me how. Like I said, will be happy if that’s the case.

You're speculating about speculation.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14318945)
I’m aware. The article says Brooke and KCTV were targeted. That tweet hits all KC news stations, and not Brooke.

I’m not trying to argue or shit on the article. I’m just saying that there is some speculation, which I hope proves right.

You should re-read the nonsense in The Star which cites "a source." ROFL

Dante84 06-23-2019 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14318948)
You're speculating about speculation.

That’s speculative

Bowser 06-23-2019 03:11 PM

"...unless it's Bob Sutton's game plan."

Perfection

Bowser 06-23-2019 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad (Post 14318930)
No information here. Awful article, IMO. Misleading thread title.

Fact: Tyreek has more abuse allegations than receptions in the AFC Championship game.

Everybody give Rudy some attention.

carcosa 06-23-2019 03:25 PM

This is pretty poorly written but I hope it's true!

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14318957)
Everybody give Rudy some attention.

Is Rudy a Black Bob mult?

SAUTO 06-23-2019 03:31 PM

ROFL.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14318980)
ROFL.

Dick Jones is wanted for murder.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14318985)
Dick Jones is wanted for murder.

Who ever wrote that should be. They thought so much of it they left off the name of the author...

LoneWolf 06-23-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14318987)
Who ever wrote that should be. They thought so much of it they left off the name of the author...

Do you not believe the story and if so, why not?

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 14318991)
Do you not believe the story and if so, why not?

The link doesnt have a link so it cant be true to him.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14318993)
The link doesnt have a link so it cant be true to him.

Ooooooooh yeah - link within a link. Gotta have it.

Even though the article basically spells out everything me and Clay have been saying (and SAUTO has been denying)...

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14318987)
Who ever wrote that should be. They thought so much of it they left off the name of the author...

KC Star did the same thing.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 14318991)
Do you not believe the story and if so, why not?

I don't know what to believe at this point. But it appears tyreek and the GF are both at the same point in the reintegration process. Both are getting visits. The other article says they both admitted to spanking with a belt.

And once again, why not put your name on it?

oldman 06-23-2019 03:57 PM

I don't know who this person is, but if what the article says is true a lot of people should be canned. Just because you're stupid shouldn't give you a pass.
After the whole tape came out, I began to think it was extortion of sorts with the Espinal family and "Meredith" as the perpetrators. If the FBI is involved, things don't look good for them and they deserve every bit of misery they receive.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 03:58 PM

And what about the supposed welts and bruises? Not from child abuse? Those seemed to be forgotten in this article.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319000)
KC Star did the same thing.

https://media.giphy.com/media/481qr5WC9Vd3a/giphy.gif

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319005)
And what about the supposed welts and bruises? Not from child abuse? Those seemed to be forgotten in this article.

Apparently the welts and bruises were from Crystal, who admitted that she may have went overboard when disciplining the child, but according to the State of Kansas doesn't constitute abuse.

So, neither one abused the boy.

She's just batshit crazy, and they want her to get help.

The boy is going through something called "reintroduction".

You must've missed all that...

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319003)
I don't know what to believe at this point. But it appears tyreek and the GF are both at the same point in the reintegration process.

Actually we have confirmed proof that Tyreek has visitation rights. That video was recent.

Crystal? Not so much. Those photos could have been old. She is a charlatan.

Quote:

And once again, why not put your name on it?
Marty is a private citizen. Not a reporter with a public face. He deserves some level of anonymity, especially given the controversial nature of this story and the fact he is a family man.

You should respect that, which is more than anyone can say for every post you have made on this topic.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319009)
Actually we have confirmed proof that Tyreek has visitation rights. That video was recent.

Crystal? Not so much. Those photos could have been old. She is a charlatan.



Marty is a private citizen. Not a reporter with a public face. He deserves some level of anonymity, especially given the controversial nature of this story and the fact he is a family man.

You should respect that, which is more than anyone can say for every post you have made on this topic.

Lol to all this.

Private citizen. Anonymity. But you say his name? ROFL

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319005)
And what about the supposed welts and bruises? Not from child abuse? Those seemed to be forgotten in this article.

Crystal admitted guilt for that.

And as the article clearly states, there is no 11th hour evidence coming that will fly in the face of that.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14319008)
Apparently the welts and bruises were from Crystal, who admitted that she may have went overboard when disciplining the child, but according to the State of Kansas doesn't constitute abuse.

So, neither one abused the boy.

She's just batshit crazy, and they want her to get help.

The boy is going through something called "reintroduction".

You must've missed all that...

I missed where anyone else said this.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319011)
Crystal admitted guilt for that.

And as the article clearly states, there is no 11th hour evidence coming that will fly in the face of that.

ROFL

oldman 06-23-2019 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14318945)
I’m aware. The article says Brooke and KCTV were targeted. That tweet hits all KC news stations, and not Brooke.

I’m not trying to argue or shit on the article. I’m just saying that there is some speculation, which I hope proves right.

Brooke is young and dumb, trying to make a name for herself. Maybe a good slap like a dismissal will teach her something. KCTV5 has been a source of yellow journalism for years and would have been the one I went after, too.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 04:04 PM

At this point we can only assume SAUTO is Sergio Espinal.

Jamie 06-23-2019 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319000)
KC Star did the same thing.

Is your point that this story is as poorly reported as the Star's story that this board has been shitting on for three months?

SAUTO 06-23-2019 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319011)
Crystal admitted guilt for that.

And as the article clearly states, there is no 11th hour evidence coming that will fly in the face of that.

but this article says they both did. Why should we not believe it?

The investigation into the couple’s parenting accelerated when Overland Park police checked on the boy in March and found bruises and welts on his body. Both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the 3 year old with their hands and a belt, but prosecutors can’t determine for sure which parent, or if both, went too far.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-23-2019 04:06 PM

Love seeing the morons that claimed they had sources fitted with gourmet clown shoes. Pathetic the level some go..

SAUTO 06-23-2019 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 14319016)
Is your point that this story is as poorly reported as the Star's story that this board has been shitting on for three months?

That seems to be a perfect summation of it.


All you other guys can continue your circle jerk now.

tyecopeland 06-23-2019 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14318987)
Who ever wrote that should be. They thought so much of it they left off the name of the author...

I think it could have been written by hammock parties and SDH.

Pitt Gorilla 06-23-2019 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14319018)
Love seeing the morons that claimed they had sources fitted with gourmet clown shoes. Pathetic the level some go..

60% of "fans" on this site voted to release him. That's pathetic.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-23-2019 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14319022)
60% of "fans" on this site voted to release him. That's pathetic.

Those that waited it out are the only ones deserving of respect.

TLO 06-23-2019 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14319022)
60% of "fans" on this site voted to release him. That's pathetic.

Yep. At the time the evidence looked pretty damming. It appears we weren't getting the entire story.

Shit happens. Move on.

Monty 06-23-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319009)
Actually we have confirmed proof that Tyreek has visitation rights. That video was recent.

Crystal? Not so much. Those photos could have been old. She is a charlatan.



Marty is a private citizen. Not a reporter with a public face. He deserves some level of anonymity, especially given the controversial nature of this story and the fact he is a family man.

You should respect that, which is more than anyone can say for every post you have made on this topic.

Seconded on the respect piece. He's a good guy and should have some level of privacy.

My only comment on the piece today is that his writing style is and always has been that of a gumshoe detective and/or a conspiracy theorist, but that's been discussed before and probably won't change.

We'll see Hill score TDs this year, for that I'm very excited.

For those that will be upset by Hill being on the team/scoring TDs, this is for you:

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Simply Red 06-23-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14318971)
This is pretty poorly written but I hope it's true!

F yas

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 06-23-2019 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14318977)
Is Rudy a Black Bob mult?

Ive been around here for over half my life. Respect me, bitch

TLO 06-23-2019 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14319023)
Those that waited it out are the only ones deserving of respect.

Previously convicted abuser accused of abusing.

Yeah.. 99.9% of the time the second accusation is proven to be true.

Thank God that my favorite NFL team the Kansas City Chiefs and Tyreek Hill beat the odds here!

TLO 06-23-2019 04:17 PM

And yes, I'll still cheer like crazy when Tyreek makes amazing plays. I don't really care if he' a POS person. He's a POS Kansas City Chief and an amazing player

Let's go win the ****ing SuperBowl.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319017)
but this article says they both did. Why should we not believe it?

you should

not a crime

Three7s 06-23-2019 04:23 PM

I'm starting to think some people want him to be guilty.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14319032)
Previously convicted abuser accused of abusing.

ACTUALLY

he was not convicted

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319044)
ACTUALLY

he was not convicted

Correct.

He was charged, took a plea, completed the terms of the plea, record expunged, no conviction.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-23-2019 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319044)
ACTUALLY

he was not convicted

He was by our resident private detectives (who have absolute dogshit sources)

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14319046)
He was by our resident private detectives (who have absolute dogshit sources)

This Is Also correct

Marcellus 06-23-2019 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319017)
but this article says they both did. Why should we not believe it?

The investigation into the couple’s parenting accelerated when Overland Park police checked on the boy in March and found bruises and welts on his body. Both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the 3 year old with their hands and a belt, but prosecutors can’t determine for sure which parent, or if both, went too far.

Common sense tells you this is bullshit. You will never convince me if they knew a crime has been committed both wouldn't be charged and let it play out in court. The "we don't know which one did it" narrative is a crock of shit. If thats true the prosecutor should be fired immediately.

What is more and more evident is they didn't find anything they could make a case for abuse on, welts and bruises alone wouldn't be enough depending on quantity and severity.

Obviously I am speculating but there is evidence based on what HASN'T happened to give a good idea of whats going on. Had they had evidence of a crime they would have filed charges, period. I didnt get the impression the DA was looking to give Hill any breaks.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319017)
but this article says they both did. Why should we not believe it?

The investigation into the couple’s parenting accelerated when Overland Park police checked on the boy in March and found bruises and welts on his body. Both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the 3 year old with their hands and a belt, but prosecutors can’t determine for sure which parent, or if both, went too far.

But they have determined that neither is guilty of actual abuse.

RunKC 06-23-2019 04:45 PM

I don’t believe the new media access rules set by the Chiefs were only based on Hill. You can be for damn sure that Pat, his family and his agent spoke to Andy, Veach, Clark or all three immediately after KCTV5 released his address to the public.

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 04:47 PM

Sauto only wants to believe speculation on he did it not speculation on that he didnt even if they fall on equal footing.
Basically I've realized Sauto believes whatever he hears first ....

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad (Post 14319031)
Ive been around here for over half my life. Respect me, bitch

Well...which is it?

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14319069)
Sauto only wants to believe speculation on he did it not speculation on that he didnt even if they fall on equal footing.
Basically I've realized Sauto believes whatever he hears first ....

SAUTO doesn't understand that the welts and bruises don't constitute "abuse" to the State of KS, so his whole premise doesn't wash.

Lprechaun 06-23-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14319071)
SAUTO doesn't understand that the welts and bruises don't constitute "abuse" to the State of KS, so his whole premise doesn't wash.

Probably never got spanked as a kid.... those of us who did and dont automatically think we are right about everything and deserve everything handed to us know that discipline sometimes requires a welt haha


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