Thoughts on this PC
 

Win10 simply isn't working on my 12 year old computer. I've given up on trying to get the two to play nice. It's a fundamental driver issue and as stubborn as I am when it comes to troubleshooting I have nor the time or the patience to start hacking drivers on a decade old PC.

What's your thoughts on the value of this PC:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's ceiling would need to be say, Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, MS Office, and 3D CAD.

Nerd thoughts? I'm thinking as long as sold as advertised it's a pretty good deal.

Just MHO:

For gaming and document processing it would be average. I don't know what the processing requirements are for CAD, you'd need to look into that.
It doesn't appear to have a solid state drive (SSD) and the reviews indicate you may need to add a better ethernet adapter if you use wifi. I can't see what kind of cooling set up it has.

The Cyberpower rig they have listed next to it is a better set up for the same money:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-...ct_top?ie=UTF8

One good way to get a read on pre-built rigs is to read the reviews on NewEgg. Those comments tend to sometimes be more useful than Amazon.

https://www.newegg.com/Gaming-Deskto...742?Tid=897483


AMD RYZEN 5 1400 4-Core 3.2 GHz (3.4 GHz Turbo) | Average processor, relatively low powered
1 TB 7200RPM Hard Drive | Sufficient. It's sure nice to have a SSD as well though.
A320 Micro-ATX Motherboard doesn't say what brand, this mobo though is on the lower end
16GB G. Skill Ripjaws Gaming Memory DDR4 2400 MHz with Heat Spreader (Not Generic Memory) | Solid, plenty of ram
Windows 10 Home
GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5 Graphics Card |Decent gaming card
Video Output: Dual-link DVI,
DisplayPort (version 1.4), HDMI | 5 x USB 3.0, 3 x USB 2.0

Thanks brother!

If you asked me to buy a pre-assembled PC 5 years ago I would honestly give you the stink eye but I just want to plug and play at this point if I'm not getting paid. Too many hobbies.

I'll check NewEgg reviews. I'm in the Honda Civic market, don't need a Porsche.

Prebuilts these days are better than they have ever been, nothing wrong with going that route. That Cyberpower rig on Amazon is a good unit at a good price and it comes with a (small)SSD and decent ethernet adapter so you wouldn't have to add either of those.
And yeah, NewEgg has some decent sales sometimes if you catch them at the right time.

This is a prime example of why I hate prebuilts. Ya the internals and all can be decent, minus a couple cheap parts thrown in to keep costs down, but what the **** is that case? Forget all the RGB, where is the ventilation coming from? The small red section on the bottom? Those 3 RGB fans on the front arent doing shit but "looking pretty."

My current case, which I've had for over a year, is very similar - glass on the front and both sides, with fans behind the glass in the front. I've had no overheating issues. Although like you, I was skeptical when I first saw it - seems weird that the fans blow toward a solid enclosure. I don't know why it doesn't overheat, but it doesn't.

It has a rear exhaust fan for flow. And a cpu cooler fan (stock Intel). Not too bad. Yeah, you can get more cooling with a hand build but it should be sufficient.

It was kind of fun looking at prebuilds and trying to find a good one for under $1k but I didn’t look long. Wanna’ see what you can find so we can hook Otter up?

ehhhhhhhh you can do better

if you wanted to build one you could build a 2600x / 10606gb for that money, with nicer parts all around. I just did it this weekend.

I wouldn't be able to recommend a prebuilt.

I'm sure there is someone near by that could put together whatever parts someone picked out for $100, or maybe even a friend that would do it for free, and you would still be around the same price as a prebuilt but wouldnt have the cheap motherboard/psu combo of a prebuilt.

Plus I don't like the current trend "gaming computers" where everything needs to give you a seizure.

I don't trust anyone else but me to build my computer. Those companies will use flash to sell their systems; pretty lights, aggressive logos, one or two big name parts while the others are bargain bin sales or worse. I overspend on my components, so every four or five years I build a new one with a Video Card refresh thrown in every two to 3 years. It gets expensive, but how much I use my computer for gaming and school work, it's worth it.

Dammit HT we’re looking for a prebuilt here!
Gravedigger that goes for you too! :D

20 second search found a better prebuilt for less.

found several others too

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1VK-005B-000E1

here is the upgraded version for 50 bucks more. same company as the OP, just better deals.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Skytech-R...ype=10&veh=aff

You don't want me picking your computer for you because I have expensive tastes. But dialing back a little I came up with this on PC part picker:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mNRDgw

That includes monitor for $1746, so if you already have a monitor then knock off $286 making the machine sub $1500 before tax. Also you might be able to carry other components over from your old computer to your new one, like SSD/HD etc. as long as the parts are beefy enough to handle the newer specs. For example I brought over my old power supply because it was a 1000 watt PSU so I knew it could handle the power needed by the graphics card, processor, mobo etc. I also brought over my last m.2 SSD to add to my 1TB one that I bought to give me a backup drive of sorts.

This build is just something I threw together, there's more work that goes into each individual part to see which is best based on reviews of the product. PC Part Picker is a great website for tinkering around with builds.

I just built my new computer after I got taxes back and I spared very little expense. I would recommend looking up YouTube videos if you're going to compare pre-built vs. do it yourself. YouTube channels like Gamers Nexus/Pauls Hardware, BitWit, OC3D and JayzTwoCents have great content for builders and stick around certain price ranges as well.

Good advice GD. But I’m pretty sure we all know how to build a rig.
(btw another good all-in-one resource for n00b builders is
https://www.wepc.com/)

We’re looking for a good sub-$1K prebuilt rig in this thread though if you happen to see one.

I used to be on the bleeding edge when building a PC but with all the advancements and the warm weather just around the corner I just want to purchase a plug & play. Something that runs reliably with little effort. I can do my own tech support.

I've had horrible luck with SSD failures and don't want one unless I'm building or buying a LINUX box where the registry isn't integrated into every little operation. Plus 8g of memory isn't enough for 3D CAD.

Thanks for the input. I'm just going to pull the trigger on this one. Seems to be what I'm looking to purchase.

I use SSD's in all my non-Windows machines but man have I had problems with Windows 10 and SSD's. :thumb:

All my Windows 10 machines have SSD's and haven't encountered a single issue. I had far greater problems with 7200 rpm drives and raid than i've had with SSD.

No problems with SSD's and Win 10 for me either. Primarily we use Samsung EVO drives.

There was an issue with a hand full of SSD drives and Win10: https://betanews.com/2018/05/24/windows-10-kb4100403/

But it was pretty minor. There's millions of copies of Win10 on SSDs running just fine. I really wouldn't avoid it at this point, you'll be missing quite a bit of performance...

I'm just amazed that you have a functioning, 12-year-old PC.

Assembled it myself from carefully selected NewEgg inventory. It has worked flawlessly up until a month or so ago when it met Win10. I think I've gotten my money's worth and time out of that PC. </br></br> Next year during the winter I'm going to build a new system from top to bottom and redo the room from paint to desk. I'm really liking what I'm seeing in the wall mounted curved monitors and where the technology is going in general.</br></br> Something like this:</br></br> http://sanjosecalsoap.com/wp-content...gn-768x432.jpg

Windows Update is one of the buggiest POS I've ever dealt with. Once my kids are gone, I'll be down to just 1 Windows machine I have to support. PBJ

I do as well, and no issues whatsoever.

A lot of the laptops I've worked on have had Intel drives. I've not used them on Linux but on Win10, they sucked.

Intel is the same brand I've had all my SSD + Win10 problems.

It was even worse in previous versions....

Oh I know. I had Windows 7 machines that I never did get to update. Finally had to update them to Windows 10 just to get it to run. Tried every fix and hack out there.

Then there was the issue where Microsoft auto pushed out the ~5GB Win10 installer to Win7 machines via Windows Update. Which would leave the machine in a "Installing updates. Please don't power off" state sometimes for hours depending on the network connection. Then pester you every 10 minutes about the free upgrade to v10 that you didn't ask for...

Yeah, I've seen that one. Also saw the one where you run the Windows 10 Media Creation toolkit from within Windows 7 and it hangs at 9% and never progresses beyond that.

However, I'm talking about stuff like trying to apply a hot fix (KB55555 or something similar) and it just fails with a generic hex error - you look it up online and the literal description is "generic installer error". So you run the repair tool, and then apply a hot fix with the offline repair tool, and finally you're editing the registry and removed the WinSXS folder and it still won't run. The database gets corrupted somehow and there's no way to fix it short of reinstalling Windows.

At least Windows 10 will let you refresh the system now without losing all of your data and having to restore from backups.

This is insanity. SSD is god. Failures are extremely rare. No SSD, no performance.

If you're worried about performance, you should try using a real OS. :D

When game developers acknowledge a different OS I'll try one, but that's never going to happen with Windows absolutely dominating the market.

Right, I remember being a DOS try hard too and then windows 3.1 came and went. No problems right? Windows 95 came and I begrudgingly adopted it. Really no other choice if you're a gamer.

It has 6 total fans (including CPU) and all those vertical and horizontal lines you see along the sides are 1" openings. There's plenty of ventilation on both sides.

The only problem I'm having is the BIOS isn't recognizing my LINUX drive but I haven't put any time into troubleshooting yet. Weird part is is when I go into 'manage' I can see it under 'disk management'.

I'm very pleased for the price. The only time I miss SSD is when I reboot which is only 2-3 times a week.

Great budget gaming PC to get me through the warm months until I build again this winter. You can add an SSD in about 10 minutes if so desired.

Get a PCI-E sound card.

I had a PCI sound blaster in my old computer and had been using the onboard sound on my current computer for years. I don't know how I didn't notice the difference but I was fiddling with the audio on one of my videos and got a hankering for better sound, especially after I bought a pair of $180 headphones.

Came to find my motherboard didn't even HAVE a PCI slot, so I went to Microcenter and got this bad boy.


Huge difference, especially in volume.

:thumb:

You buy a console, grit your teeth, and grin and bear it. I won't give Microsoft one more dime of my money. Yeah, I miss out on games here and there but overall, I can still play most of the big ones.

If you have a key from Win7 I'm pretty sure you can upgrade using that key. I'd research before trying obviously but I'm pretty sure.

I don't have any unused keys anymore. Don't have a use for Windows either, so it's not a big deal.

Just use KMSpico like a normal pirate....

how to make a windows 10 install usb? I am also considering a upgrade from win7

If you ask on Microsoft's website or any other Windows 10 forums,i'm sure you'll get more than that.
All about creating Win 10 install USB disk that i know,just burn iso files to a USB flash drive.You can get more info from UUbyte.com