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In58men 04-26-2013 09:41 PM

What QB do you want us to draft?
 
Who's your QB of choice?

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2013 09:42 PM

Dysert or Bray.

The Barkley and Wilson ship has sailed

Chiefaholic 04-26-2013 09:43 PM

Tyler Bray

Rausch 04-26-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9635608)
Dysert or Bray.

The Barkley and Wilson ship has sailed

If we draft Bray I will go back in time, **** your mother, and spend the next 20 years beating you without mercy...

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9635612)
If we draft Bray I will go back in time, **** your mother, and spend the next 20 years beating you without mercy...

I really don't like Bray and his attitude. But at this point, we should go for the talented guys who can maybe be coached to their potential vs. safe guys with a low ceiling.

Ebolapox 04-26-2013 09:45 PM

errrrrr.... glennon was never a choice, he gone

farmerchief 04-26-2013 09:47 PM

Dysert

kcxiv 04-26-2013 09:47 PM

Barkley or Nassib i guess!


They can sit for half a year then when Smith gets hurt, make the switch! lol

In58men 04-26-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9635624)
errrrrr.... glennon was never a choice, he gone

I quit watching after our Kelce pick. I do apologize.

jspchief 04-26-2013 09:48 PM

None. If it wasn't a guy that would legitimately compete for the starting job, I don't want him.

OnTheWarpath15 04-26-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635637)
None. If it wasn't a guy that would legitimately compete for the starting job, I don't want him.

This.

Which was never going to happen.

In58men 04-26-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635637)
None. If it wasn't a guy that would legitimately compete for the starting job, I don't want him.

Did you hear Chiefs traded for Alex Smith?

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9635634)
Barkley or Nassib i guess!


They can sit for half a year then when Smith gets hurt, make the switch! lol

The way the draft is panning out, no matter who drafts these guys, these guys are probably career backups.

Ebolapox 04-26-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635637)
None. If it wasn't a guy that would legitimately compete for the starting job, I don't want him.

I think barkley could. he has a ton of talent if not the best arm. he's essentially a younger version of alex smith, really. he could at least be a long-term answer, and has age on his side (alex smith doesn't--not old, but he's already hit his ceiling).

matt barkley could theoretically reach his ceiling (matt ryan)
alex smith has reached his ceiling (alex smith)

give me the one with the higher ceiling, matt barkley.

Discuss Thrower 04-26-2013 09:51 PM

If they've slid this far, they ain't worth it. Don't waste a pick on one and hopefully find a role player that will contribute in 2014/2015

Fairplay 04-26-2013 09:52 PM

dysert

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635637)
None. If it wasn't a guy that would legitimately compete for the starting job, I don't want him.

It really doesn't feel like there are many QBs in this draft that will. I'm usually in the camp of taking a chance on a young QB. Sadly, this QB class is just plain terrible.

I hate the Alex Smith pick, but I'm not that upset that we've passed on QBs. I can't believe that's the case.

jspchief 04-26-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9635649)
I think barkley could. he has a ton of talent if not the best arm. he's essentially a younger version of alex smith, really. he could at least be a long-term answer, and has age on his side (alex smith doesn't--not old, but he's already hit his ceiling).

matt barkley could theoretically reach his ceiling (matt ryan)
alex smith has reached his ceiling (alex smith)

give me the one with the higher ceiling, matt barkley.

Barkley is Cassel.

If it wasn't a QB taken in the first or 2nd round, I don't believe he would have been given a real shot to displace ASmith.

In other words, the moment we didn't take a QB at 1.1, I stopped wanting a QB in this year's draft.

Mecca 04-26-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635673)
Barkley is Cassel.

If it wasn't a QB taken in the first or 2nd round, I don't believe he would have been given a real shot to displace ASmith.

In other words, the moment we didn't take a QB at 1.1, I stopped wanting a QB in this year's draft.

I don't recall him playing TE in college, I think a guy with PAC 12 passing records being compared to Cassel is a bit much.

Ebolapox 04-26-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635673)
Barkley is Cassel.

If it wasn't a QB taken in the first or 2nd round, I don't believe he would have been given a real shot to displace ASmith.

In other words, the moment we didn't take a QB at 1.1, I stopped wanting a QB in this year's draft.

barkley is 10x the QB cassel is/was. you know, he actually started in college. he comes out last year he's a top ten pick (likely goes between RG3 and tannehill).

I do get the sentiment though, and I would bet money against us taking a developmental QB

keg in kc 04-26-2013 09:57 PM

Sean Renfree.

jspchief 04-26-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9635679)
I don't recall him playing TE in college, I think a guy with PAC 12 passing records being compared to Cassel is a bit much.

I don't give a shit what his pedigree is. They play the same.

He's not good under pressure. He doesn't progress through reads well. He's not accurate.

Yeah, maybe he'll have moderately more NFL success, but at the end of the day they have the same shortcomings.

Mecca 04-26-2013 10:00 PM

Whow now, Barkley is accurate and he's smart he just lacks an elite arm and he's not a great athlete. He's actually similar to guys like Trent Green, Matt Schaub and Matt Hasselbeck more than he is Cassel.

In the 4th round that's a damn good pick.

007 04-26-2013 10:02 PM

At this point, I'll take my chances with Barkley.

Simply Red 04-26-2013 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9635698)
Whow now, Barkley is accurate and he's smart he just lacks an elite arm and he's not a great athlete. He's actually similar to guys like Trent Green, Matt Schaub and Matt Hasselbeck more than he is Cassel.

In the 4th round that's a damn good pick.

under any bit of pressure - Tyler Bray is your Casshole

Ebolapox 04-26-2013 10:04 PM

matt scott is very likely...

jspchief 04-26-2013 10:04 PM

You know honestly, given Barkley's pedigree, the fact that he's still not drafted speaks volumes. Multi year starter at a major program with conference records... and no one wants him.

Rausch 04-26-2013 10:05 PM

Wanted Geno or Glennon.

I've got no dog in the hunt now.

That said I hope we draft the guy most likely to make the rest of the BB have a good day at this point...

Mecca 04-26-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635717)
You know honestly, given Barkley's pedigree, the fact that he's still not drafted speaks volumes. Multi year starter at a major program with conference records... and no one wants him.

He's system and weather limited...any guy with physical limitations only has certain teams he can play for.

He can't play in NY with the wind, he can't play in vertical offenses, he's a prototypical drop back west coast offense guy, in today's game that severely minimizes his options.

Fairplay 04-26-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635717)
You know honestly, given Barkley's pedigree, the fact that he's still not drafted speaks volumes. Multi year starter at a major program with conference records... and no one wants him.



Who would have thought, the teams just don't like what they see. Must have bust written all over him.

007 04-26-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9635721)
Wanted Geno or Glennon.

I've got no dog in the hunt now.

That said I hope we draft the guy most likely to make the rest of the BB have a good day at this point...

That ship already sailed.

Dayze 04-26-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635717)
You know honestly, given Barkley's pedigree, the fact that he's still not drafted speaks volumes. Multi year starter at a major program with conference records... and no one wants him.

that.
something is up with this dude.

In58men 04-26-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9635738)
that.
something is up with this dude.

He was probably the one with the dirty hotel room.

Fairplay 04-26-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9635749)
He was probably the one with the dirty hotel room.


lol, yeah

ChiefsCountry 04-26-2013 10:14 PM

Teams want the read option fad apparently. Even though the pure drop back guy still wins the big one.

kcxiv 04-26-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9635673)
Barkley is Cassel.

If it wasn't a QB taken in the first or 2nd round, I don't believe he would have been given a real shot to displace ASmith.

In other words, the moment we didn't take a QB at 1.1, I stopped wanting a QB in this year's draft.

i have seen barkley throw 60 yard bombs this past year. I NEVER EVER EVER EVER seen Matt throw the ball that far. When he tries it dies after 40 yards.

I dont think they are the same at all.

keg in kc 04-26-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9635768)
Teams want the read option fad apparently. Even though the pure drop back guy still wins the big one.

I would agree with that although it doesn't explain EJ Manuel going in the first.

Rausch 04-26-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9635733)
That ship already sailed.

I'm trying to be positive here.

Lzen 04-26-2013 10:32 PM

Everyone trying to come up with excuses for why Barkley has dropped. Could it possibly be as simple as the fact that teams are still concerned about his injury?

ChiefsCountry 04-26-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9635809)
I would agree with that although it doesn't explain EJ Manuel going in the first.

Manuel is pretty athletic for his size. He can run a little bit of the run option. But he also has the arm to play in Buffalo.

007 04-26-2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9635816)
I'm trying to be positive here.

Oh shit sorry. We haven't had any of that here since 2003.

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9635824)
Manuel is pretty athletic for his size. He can run a little bit of the run option. But he also has the arm to play in Buffalo.

I didn't understand the pick. No accuracy and a slow decision maker. He needs a whole lot of development.

GordonGekko 04-26-2013 10:34 PM

I'd like it if they took a shot at Barkley.

At least we'd have him in the wings when we realize the A. Smith, Matt Cassel part II, experiment fails.

chiefzilla1501 04-26-2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 9635819)
Everyone trying to come up with excuses for why Barkley has dropped. Could it possibly be as simple as the fact that teams are still concerned about his injury?

I don't know how he as a prospect is all that much different from Christian Ponder.

Rausch 04-26-2013 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9635828)
Oh shit sorry. We haven't had any of that here since 2003.

I know.

I'm sitting here drinking cheap beer, pissed off, wearing the ****ing shirt...:#

Bump 04-26-2013 10:42 PM

I really only wanted Geno or EJ

**** the rest

Chiefshrink 04-26-2013 11:29 PM

Barkley
Nassib
Wilson
Landry

in that order. Do not want Bray.

I can see the Jags taking one of this guys with the 1st pick tomorrow but regardless we will still have some decent developmental guys to choose from.

Chiefshrink 04-26-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9635829)
I didn't understand the pick. No accuracy and a slow decision maker. He needs a whole lot of development.

It's called having just Kolb who can't compete against Brady,Tannehill and now supposedly Geno Smith:D and as CC said the Buffalo weather. But he has worked under center quite a bit and has so much athleticism with a big arm he will always be a threat regardless and at least you have a chance. His reads and accuracy will get better in due time. But I think as they say in the draft biz when it comes to QBOTF, if you believe that guy is YOUR guy you go and get him regardless and that is what Buffalo did because I'm sure other teams were salivating as well to some degree.

Imon Yourside 04-26-2013 11:53 PM

Barkley or Bray.

AussieChiefsFan 04-27-2013 12:02 AM

Barkley.

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636010)
Barkley or Bray.

Not funny...

Chiefshrink 04-27-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636010)
Barkley or Bray.

Barkley yes and no to Bray. Too much of a knucklehead. How does a guy who has Joe Flacco size with a Flacco arm who played at Tenn as opposed to Delaware like Flacco 'still' remain on the board ???? This tells you A TON !!!

Just saying Killer. Nothing personal.;)

philfree 04-27-2013 12:08 AM

I'll catch hell for this but apparently Alex Smith was the best QB available this year. Who would have thunk it?

Chiefshrink 04-27-2013 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9636062)
I'll catch hell for this but apparently Alex Smith was the best QB available this year. Who would have thunk it?

That's how Andy saw it apparently. Look how fast he signed Alex. He already was doing his homework on the college QB's and said to himself, 'these guys truly suck ass'. I at least need an experienced game manager for my "Farmland Fury" offense:thumb:

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9636062)
I'll catch hell for this but apparently Alex Smith was the best QB available this year. Who would have thunk it?

I still think Geno is, but hey what do I know?

AussieChiefsFan 04-27-2013 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9636062)
I'll catch hell for this but apparently Alex Smith was the best QB available this year. Who would have thunk it?

That's definitely what it looks like.





Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9636067)
That's how Andy saw it apparently. Look how fast he signed Alex. He already was doing his homework on the college QB's and said to himself, 'these guys truly suck ass'. I at least need an experienced game manager for my "Farmland Fury" offense:thumb:


keg in kc 04-27-2013 12:20 AM

Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but there's no way Andy had done any homework on any of the draftee quarterbacks when the decision to trade for Alex Smith was made in early January. I said it then and I'll say it again now: they was no chance that they were ever drafting any high round QB after that decision was made. He has never been a short-term solution to these guys. A QB on the first two days of the draft was out the first time his name was even mentioned.

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9636054)
Barkley yes and no to Bray. Too much of a knucklehead. How does a guy who has Joe Flacco size with a Flacco arm who played at Tenn as opposed to Delaware like Flacco 'still' remain on the board ???? This tells you A TON !!!

Just saying Killer. Nothing personal.;)

The only guy close to that Flacco arm was Glennon.

And he came with a huge downside (that said I was a fan.)

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9636086)
The only guy close to that Flacco arm was Glennon.

And he came with a huge downside (that said I was a fan.)

The only QB that I thought would be an absolute bust is Nassib and he's gone now. So if we just take one, at least I'll feel a bit better....Still stings we never really considered Geno.

philfree 04-27-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636090)
The only QB that I thought would be an absolute bust is Nassib and he's gone now. So if we just take one, at least I'll feel a bit better....Still stings we never really considered Geno.

Where'd he go? My list show's he's still available.

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636090)
The only QB that I thought would be an absolute bust is Nassib and he's gone now. So if we just take one, at least I'll feel a bit better....Still stings we never really considered Geno.

There's a limit.

I wanted us to take a QB as well but I never thought that given the chance we'd pass on a 2nd round Geno or 3rd round Glennon.

I'm wrong.

I don't, at all, think any QB left could improve this team.

Period...

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9636097)
There's a limit.

I wanted us to take a QB as well but I never thought that given the chance we'd pass on a 2nd round Geno or 3rd round Glennon.

I'm wrong.

I don't, at all, think any QB left could improve this team.

Period...

I think Barkley would be ok, and Bray is a wildcard but you're probably right.

silver5liter 04-27-2013 12:29 AM

Dysert

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9636101)
Dysert

I just don't know much about him, we still have Stanzi...I think.

okcchief 04-27-2013 12:34 AM

I'm sure it will be Landry Jones.

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636100)
I think Barkley would be ok, and Bray is a wildcard but you're probably right.

Bray is everything that is wrong with a QB.

No.

And **** no...

007 04-27-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636090)
The only QB that I thought would be an absolute bust is Nassib and he's gone now. So if we just take one, at least I'll feel a bit better....Still stings we never really considered Geno.

Nassib hasn't been drafted yet

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9636111)
Nassib hasn't been drafted yet

Hmmmm..Ok the guy on 810 said he was drafted in the 3rd.

007 04-27-2013 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636117)
Hmmmm..Ok the guy on 810 said he was drafted in the 3rd.

Glennon was drafted in the 3rd.

Fairplay 04-27-2013 12:46 AM

We have enough numbers in for the poll. I will Fax this to the Chiefs front office right away with HIGH PRIORITY on it.

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9636119)
Glennon was drafted in the 3rd.

Ya the dude on 810 said Glennon/Nassib were both drafted in the 3rd....ah well I hope we don't take him.

007 04-27-2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636121)
Ya the dude on 810 said Glennon/Nassib were both drafted in the 3rd....ah well I hope we don't take him.

It's 810. They don't know shit.

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636100)
I think Barkley would be ok, and Bray is a wildcard but you're probably right.

No QB here improves this team.

Period.

Fairplay 04-27-2013 12:52 AM

Speaking of 810, I was listening to them after the Kelce pick and they asked Kevin Kietzman is opinion of it. He was livid and going off about it, totally pissed.

It was hysterical to listen to him, good times

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:54 AM

This year the NFL drafted QB's based only on upside.

That's clear.

It's why Geno didn't go first and why Glennon went above Mr. USC.

"NFL ready" means jack $3it...

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9636128)
Speaking of 810, I was listening to them after the Kelce pick and they asked Kevin Kietzman is opinion of it. He was livid and going off about it, totally pissed.

It was hysterical to listen to him, good times

I would have been completely unconsolable as well...

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9636134)
I would have been completely unconsolable as well...

Yeah he said he was brushing his teeth because he had just threw up in his mouth. LOLZ

Rausch 04-27-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636136)
Yeah he said he was brushing his teeth because he had just threw up in his mouth. LOLZ

Heh.....uh......these things happen......heh...

BlackHelicopters 04-27-2013 05:28 AM

Voted other. QB has no bearing on NFL success. It's a myth.

Rausch 04-27-2013 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9636246)
Voted other. QB has no bearing on NFL success. It's a myth.

...

Not...baited...


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