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staylor26 04-05-2021 09:37 AM

Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick?
 
If they stay at 31: Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas

If they trade up: Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St.

smithandrew051 04-05-2021 09:45 AM

Rashod Bateman

The Franchise 04-05-2021 09:46 AM

Stay at 31: Terrace Marshall, WR, LSU

Trade up: Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech

Bowser 04-05-2021 09:48 AM

Dillon Radunz or Terrace Marshall

O.city 04-05-2021 09:49 AM

Trade up for Darrisaw

Stay at 31: outside the box, best CB available.

Steron 04-05-2021 09:58 AM

Cosmi or Jenkins

Otter 04-05-2021 09:58 AM

Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St.

Sofa King 04-05-2021 10:04 AM

Mac Jones @ 31

Trevor Lawrence if they trade up.

Hoover 04-05-2021 10:06 AM

Bart gives the middle finger to all you chicken littles.

Trades back into the second round, takes a center, and then you guys jizz all over his 3rd round OT find.

MahomesMagic 04-05-2021 10:13 AM

Jayson Oweh, DE, Penn State

Looks like a Spags guy.

Oweh ran a 4.36-second 40-yard dash, which is absurd for an athlete his size and backed it up with a pro-shuttle time of 4.21, 21 reps at 225 pounds on the bench and a 39.5-inch vertical jump.Mar 25, 2021

Deberg_1990 04-05-2021 10:16 AM

Some WR most of us have never even heard of yet.

Chief Northman 04-05-2021 10:22 AM

Stay at 31: Cosmi

Trade up to early 20’s if JOK is in range

Trade down: Eichenberg

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-05-2021 10:31 AM

Cosmi or Marshall

nychief 04-05-2021 10:41 AM

Trade the pick.

BossChief 04-05-2021 10:44 AM

Cosmi or Collins

Bowser 04-05-2021 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15615805)
Some WR most of us have never even heard of yet.

Likely this, or some other position player none of us saw coming.

htismaqe 04-05-2021 10:57 AM

Greg Newsome, II

Stryker 04-05-2021 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 15615818)
Stay at 31: Cosmi

Trade up to early 20’s if JOK is in range

Trade down: Eichenberg

I like this. I'd be very satisfied with either scenario.

lcarus 04-05-2021 11:10 AM

I have no idea at all so I'll throw out a wild and crazy scenario just for shits.

The Chiefs trade up to draft DeVonta Smith, who falls outside the top 10.

Baby Lee 04-05-2021 11:10 AM

Has a consensus been arrived at regarding how much if any a move up Teven is.

Earlier he was thought to maybe still be available when we pick, might even be a day 2 value, with day 1 being a stretch. But his pro day impressed and looks like the speculators are moving him up, but how far?

penguinz 04-05-2021 11:12 AM

No matter who it is some here will complain while others argue it is a guaranteed first ballot HoF inductee.

htismaqe 04-05-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15615910)
Has a consensus been arrived at regarding how much if any a move up Teven is.

Earlier he was thought to maybe still be available when we pick, might even be a day 2 value, with day 1 being a stretch. But his pro day impressed and looks like the speculators are moving him up, but how far?

Right now (and this will likely change the closer we get to the draft), he looks to be there right around pick #25.

Bowser 04-05-2021 11:22 AM

Stone Forsythe a name to watch, maybe?

RunKC 04-05-2021 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15615746)
If they stay at 31: Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas

If they trade up: Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St.

I was just thinking about that this morning. This was my thinking as well.

But if we get ****ed and teams reach on all the players we like and we can’t get a trade down partner like last year, then I think Jamin Davis is the guy

MahomesMagic 04-05-2021 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15615932)
Stone Forsythe a name to watch, maybe?

I don't know where he goes but I am really liking the idea of adding him. I was thinking he might go 2nd round but if we really like him trade down out of the 1st and pick him early there.

bowener 04-05-2021 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15615848)
Cosmi or Collins

+1 on Collins, but I think he goes before this.

Toad 04-05-2021 01:03 PM

Whomever of the 3 is still on the board: Bateman, Cosmi or Rousseau.

gonefishin53 04-05-2021 01:04 PM

Chiefs trade pick #31 and pick #136 in 2021 draft and a 3rd round pick in the 2022 draft to the Eagles for pick #37 and OT Andre Dillard. The Chiefs draft LB Jamin Davis with pick #37.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-05-2021 01:12 PM

Chiefs trade pick #31 and a 2nd in 2022 to the Vikings and move up to grab Darrisaw.

TLO 04-05-2021 01:14 PM

Ryan Sims

staylor26 04-05-2021 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 15616135)
Chiefs trade pick #31 and pick #136 in 2021 draft and a 3rd round pick in the 2022 draft to the Eagles for pick #37 and OT Andre Dillard. The Chiefs draft LB Jamin Davis with pick #37.

Didn’t mean to downvote!

BigChiefFan 04-05-2021 01:20 PM

The Chiefs stay put and Rousseau or Cosmi falls in their lap. If both are sitting there, I think they select Rousseau and then trade up with the Jets in the 2nd round and then take Cosmi. Veach then goes back to genius status as the rest of the NFL scratches their heads in disbelief.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-05-2021 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 15616135)
Chiefs trade pick #31 and pick #136 in 2021 draft and a 3rd round pick in the 2022 draft to the Eagles for pick #37 and OT Andre Dillard. The Chiefs draft LB Jamin Davis with pick #37.

Love Jamin Davis

KC Hawks 04-05-2021 01:22 PM

Whoever it is, it'll be a future HOFer!!!

ForeverIowan 04-05-2021 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15615909)
I have no idea at all so I'll throw out a wild and crazy scenario just for shits.

The Chiefs trade up to draft DeVonta Smith, who falls outside the top 10.

With his weight at 170 pounds I think a lot of GMs will be afraid to pull the trigger on him in the top 12-15 picks. Would the Chiefs want him badly enough to make a major splash by trading up if he falls to the middle to late teens? To be determined. I for one would freaking love it!

O.city 04-05-2021 01:27 PM

Don't wanna start a thread for it but

If the Vikings were willing to move Thielan, would you send them a 2 for him? Seems like he'd be a nice fit here.

ToxSocks 04-05-2021 01:31 PM

Wish i knew enough about this year's draft to guess.

And with the Chiefs kinda in this weird position of having several directions they can go, makes that guess even harder this year.

My son said Teven Jenkins. That seems to be a pretty popular choice.

Bowser 04-05-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15616166)
Don't wanna start a thread for it but

If the Vikings were willing to move Thielan, would you send them a 2 for him? Seems like he'd be a nice fit here.

Hell, if we're going to dream - send our first round pick this year and next year along with a fourth this year to Houston for Tunsil, then send a third and a sixth to Minny for Theilen. Take Brevin Jordan in the second and profit.

KC Hawks 04-05-2021 01:37 PM

If I had to guess, probably somebody from the SEC.

AJKCFAN 04-05-2021 01:46 PM

If they stay at 31 - Terrace Marshall (they might even trade up a few spots to get him if a WR run develops). Unless they believe someone like Dede Westbrook or Golden Tate as a veteran FA can be their new Sammy Watkins, the Draft is the best place to get someone to keep creating mismatches.

If they trade up - if it’s a big trade up (at least 8 spots) it’s clearly for a LT and it will be for whichever LT has a mini slide. I’ll say Slater. If it’s a small trade up it’s to secure the WR

jallmon 04-05-2021 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15615746)
If they stay at 31: Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas

If they trade up: Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St.

Oh, man, I hope you're correct!

JohnnyHammersticks 04-05-2021 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15616174)
Hell, if we're going to dream - send our first round pick this year and next year along with a fourth this year to Houston for Tunsil, then send a third and a sixth to Minny for Theilen. Take Brevin Jordan in the second and profit.

Seems like people are either really high on Jordan or not high at all on him. I think he'd be a great fit. I wouldn't mind Nico Collins as a WR/TE2 hybrid either.

lcarus 04-05-2021 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15616162)
With his weight at 170 pounds I think a lot of GMs will be afraid to pull the trigger on him in the top 12-15 picks. Would the Chiefs want him badly enough to make a major splash by trading up if he falls to the middle to late teens? To be determined. I for one would freaking love it!

I think Smith is gonna be great. I think it's a pipe dream to think the Chiefs move up far enough to get him. If they do move up, it'll probably be for a tackle they like. Nothing is impossible though. I remember one particular draft when we were all debating which cornerback we would draft and we ended up trading up for a dude named Patrick Mahomes. That turned out to be a pretty surprising move and it kinda worked out for us. :)

ForeverIowan 04-05-2021 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15616307)
I think Smith is gonna be great. I think it's a pipe dream to think the Chiefs move up far enough to get him. If they do move up, it'll probably be for a tackle they like. Nothing is impossible though. I remember one particular draft when we were all debating which cornerback we would draft and we ended up trading up for a dude named Patrick Mahomes. That turned out to be a pretty surprising move and it kinda worked out for us. :)

Veach loves his weapons for Mahomes. If you are paying both Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce top of the market for their position the only way to get a third elite pass catcher is on a rookie contract. I wouldn't put it past Veach to go after him of he slides past pick 15. Like you said, pipe dream at this point however.

Pitt Gorilla 04-05-2021 02:57 PM

Some players are seeing their stock rise, which means that others will have to fall (perhaps due to no fault of their own).

There will be some REALLY good players available at our pick at positions of need. I don't know who we'll take, but I think we'll be happy with the players available.

Wilson8 04-05-2021 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15616166)
If the Vikings were willing to move Thielan, would you send them a 2 for him? Seems like he'd be a nice fit here.

Adam Thielan would be nice receiver for KC but his age, his contract dollars, and what the Chiefs are currently paying for Hill and Kelce would make it difficult.

Adam will be 31 when the season starts. He is signed for 2021 to 2024 at $5,968,750, $16,945,000, $17,950,000, and $17,100,000 Cap hits.

Chiefs have $15,850,500 and $20,685,000 for Tyreek and $7,650,000, $8,900,000, $14,650,000, $16,400,000, and $18,650,000 for Travis.

I think a 1st round pick for a WR makes a lot of sense for the Cap money and the future of the Chiefs.

No trade and Terrace Marshall Jr, WR, LSU in the 1st round.

sweendog48 04-05-2021 04:51 PM

A couple days ago I had a dream but it was one of those dreams that you don't remember until something triggers your memory, so I started looking at some draft stuff and I remembered dreaming the name Walker Little, I said I think that is a left tackle for Stanford, so I looked it up and sure enough, 6'7 315 and ran a 4.81 40 so I will stay with that and say Walker Little maybe at 31 or maybe after a trade down.

spanky 52 04-05-2021 05:02 PM

WR Dyami Brown. If we're trading up OT Darrisaw.

Tribal Warfare 04-05-2021 05:18 PM

If KC stays at #31 IMO it's LB Jamin Davis with the Matt House connection, if it's a LT Veach won't **** around and trades up

MahomesMagic 04-05-2021 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky 52 (Post 15616480)
WR Dyami Brown. If we're trading up OT Darrisaw.

I know kccrow loves him but I would be so sick I would turn off my TV and refuse to watch the rest.


;)

YontsRBake 04-05-2021 07:19 PM

Nick Bolton, LB, Mizzou

King_Chief_Fan 04-05-2021 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweendog48 (Post 15616466)
A couple days ago I had a dream but it was one of those dreams that you don't remember until something triggers your memory, so I started looking at some draft stuff and I remembered dreaming the name Walker Little, I said I think that is a left tackle for Stanford, so I looked it up and sure enough, 6'7 315 and ran a 4.81 40 so I will stay with that and say Walker Little maybe at 31 or maybe after a trade down.

cool story:spock:

Chiefshrink 04-05-2021 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15615792)
Bart gives the middle finger to all you chicken littles.

Trades back into the second round, takes a center, and then you guys jizz all over his 3rd round OT find.

Amen !!

:hail::hail::hail:

neech 04-05-2021 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 15616135)
Chiefs trade pick #31 and pick #136 in 2021 draft and a 3rd round pick in the 2022 draft to the Eagles for pick #37 and OT Andre Dillard. The Chiefs draft LB Jamin Davis with pick #37.

I'd be fine with this.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-05-2021 10:40 PM

This is tough. So hard to know who's gonna fall.

Teven Jenkins

Couch-Potato 04-05-2021 11:36 PM

kadarius toney, trade up in the 2nd ot.

Dunerdr 04-06-2021 04:14 AM

I am hopeful for Cosmi. A ton of upside and should lock up the left side for years even if he has to take some lumps year one.

RealSNR 04-06-2021 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15616166)
Don't wanna start a thread for it but

If the Vikings were willing to move Thielan, would you send them a 2 for him? Seems like he'd be a nice fit here.

Why the **** would the Vikings do that? Trade Mr. Minnesota? Vikings fans would crucify Spielman harder than Texans fans crucified O'Brien for trading Hopkins.

Direckshun 04-06-2021 08:19 AM

I think they're going to trade up in the 1st.

I think they'd prefer to stay put and take Cosmi in a normal year where they wouldn't have to start him at LT right away. But that's not an option with our current roster.

I also think they'd prefer to stay put and take Liam Eichenberg, who you can plug in right now but would have a lower ceiling (and less of a stylistic fit) than Cosmi, but Eichenberg's just too valuable as a surefire 10-year competent starter at LT. They'd have to trade up a few slots to get him.

Veach was hyperaggressive in trying to get Trent Williams. So I think trading up 6 spots or so to get Eichenberg just isn't his style.

Trading up 10-15 spots, however, to get Christian Darrisaw, who you could start right away and provides you Pro Bowl or All Pro potential and would be a perfect scheme fit? That's the kind of swing-for-the-fenches move that, to me, sounds like vintage Brett Veach.

I think we trade up for Darrisaw, but it's going to cost us.

Skyy God 04-06-2021 08:21 AM

LT of some sort.

Confluence of positional depth and extreme team need.

Couch-Potato 04-06-2021 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15617027)
I think they're going to trade up in the 1st.

I think they'd prefer to stay put and take Cosmi in a normal year where they wouldn't have to start him at LT right away. But that's not an option with our current roster.

I also think they'd prefer to stay put and take Liam Eichenberg, who you can plug in right now but would have a lower ceiling (and less of a stylistic fit) than Cosmi, but Eichenberg's just too valuable as a surefire 10-year competent starter at LT. They'd have to trade up a few slots to get him.

Veach was hyperaggressive in trying to get Trent Williams. So I think trading up 6 spots or so to get Eichenberg just isn't his style.

Trading up 10-15 spots, however, to get Christian Darrisaw, who you could start right away and provides you Pro Bowl or All Pro potential and would be a perfect scheme fit? That's the kind of swing-for-the-fenches move that, to me, sounds like vintage Brett Veach.

I think we trade up for Darrisaw, but it's going to cost us.

I agree. Go big or go home.

O.city 04-06-2021 08:59 AM

The problem with trading up far enough to get Darrisaw is you'd probably have to get to 12 or so. Going from 31 to 12 is gonna be....pricey.

The Franchise 04-06-2021 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617078)
The problem with trading up far enough to get Darrisaw is you'd probably have to get to 12 or so. Going from 31 to 12 is gonna be....pricey.

27 to 10 cost us two firsts and a third. So you’re looking at that as a minimum. Dude better ****ing be worth it.

htismaqe 04-06-2021 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15617083)
27 to 10 cost us two firsts and a third. So you’re looking at that as a minimum. Dude better ****ing be worth it.

Yep.

If you trade away the top of next year's draft for a LT, he better be a 16-game starter right away and he better be at least good.

It's a huge risk.

O.city 04-06-2021 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15617083)
27 to 10 cost us two firsts and a third. So you’re looking at that as a minimum. Dude better ****ing be worth it.

Really it was just a first and a third. You get their first so you're technically only out a 2 picks.

LT is so important I'd understand the swing for it. In the grand scheme of things, giving up pick 31 this year and say our first next year and third this year isn't THAT crazy.

O.city 04-06-2021 09:08 AM

If they were giving up a first that was gonna be in the teens or something, I'd be alot more hesitant. But they're gonna be in the AFC champ game again, atleast barring injuries.

Those players you're picking at the end of the first are usually 2nd round type prospects anyway, similar to what we're looking at this year. So if that pick can get you a franchise LT, do it.

Whether the guy they trade up for is that or not, who knows.

The Franchise 04-06-2021 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617093)
If they were giving up a first that was gonna be in the teens or something, I'd be alot more hesitant. But they're gonna be in the AFC champ game again, atleast barring injuries.

Those players you're picking at the end of the first are usually 2nd round type prospects anyway, similar to what we're looking at this year. So if that pick can get you a franchise LT, do it.

Whether the guy they trade up for is that or not, who knows.

And that’s the shitty thing. You can’t guarantee it’s a pick in the 30s. Something happens and all of a sudden we’ve given up a first in the top 15 picks. And hopefully Darrisaw wasn’t the reason why we were picking high.

RunKC 04-06-2021 09:13 AM

I think Sewell and Slater are both gone by the Chargers pick. Darrisaw might be there in the late teens and that’s when we should strike bc he isn’t going to be there after Miami at 18.

Miami sure does love stockpiling picks, plus they have a top 10 pick already, so if we want to trade for Darrisaw that’s probably the sweet spot.

Probably cost this years first, next years first, a 3rd and we can probably toss in our extra 4th this year

lcarus 04-06-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15617099)
I think Sewell and Slater are both gone by the Chargers pick. Darrisaw might be there in the late teens and that’s when we should strike bc he isn’t going to be there after Miami at 18.

Miami sure does love stockpiling picks, plus they have a top 10 pick already, so if we want to trade for Darrisaw that’s probably the sweet spot.

Probably cost this years first, next years first, a 3rd and we can probably toss in our extra 4th this year

Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

alanm 04-06-2021 09:30 AM

Rondale Moore WR Purdue.

O.city 04-06-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15617117)
Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

I'd say yeah. Other than Cosmi (who seems very athletic but raw) I'm not sure any of those others are LT's in the NFL.

O.city 04-06-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15617096)
And that’s the shitty thing. You can’t guarantee it’s a pick in the 30s. Something happens and all of a sudden we’ve given up a first in the top 15 picks. And hopefully Darrisaw wasn’t the reason why we were picking high.

I mean, as long as Andy and Mahomes are here, you pretty much can.

RunKC 04-06-2021 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15617117)
Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

I don’t think there’s a considerable difference between Darrisaw and Cosmi/Jenkins.

Those 2 would be reliable LT’s IMO

The Franchise 04-06-2021 09:42 AM

And for all the talk about Darrisaw....you’re banking on him going from a run first team to a team like the Chiefs and succeeding.

O.city 04-06-2021 09:49 AM

We're in a bad spot in that the positions we need to fill are pretty tough to fill at the spots we're picking.

LT, DE and QB are high round positions normally. So you're gonna have to wheel and deal or develop someone not as highly rated.

The Franchise 04-06-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617143)
We're in a bad spot in that the positions we need to fill are pretty tough to fill at the spots we're picking.

LT, DE and QB are high round positions normally. So you're gonna have to wheel and deal or develop someone not as highly rated.

I think we can get a DE in the 3rd or 4th round and be okay.

LT is just going to depend on what they do. I’d be just fine with taking Cosmi and signing Okung to start out the year.

htismaqe 04-06-2021 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15617117)
Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

No, I don't believe it is. That's my issue with it.

xbarretx 04-06-2021 10:01 AM

Leon Sandcastle

staylor26 04-06-2021 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617143)
We're in a bad spot in that the positions we need to fill are pretty tough to fill at the spots we're picking.

LT, DE and QB are high round positions normally. So you're gonna have to wheel and deal or develop someone not as highly rated.

This class has depth at LT and DE.

So no, I don’t think we’re in that much of a “tough spot”.

Direckshun 04-06-2021 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15617117)
Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

He's far better than those guys, with an All Pro ceiling.

Let's not forget, we are not in a vacuum here. We have the league's best QB to protect.

Veach was willing to sell Arrowhead Stadium to land Trent Williams.

We'll see if he feels the same way in the Draft.


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