Tyler Boyd: Cincy Bengals are Whiny Deluded Bitches & I'm one of them
 

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...chiefs-healthy

CINCINNATI -- Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Tyler Boyd believes he was the missing factor that kept the team from making back-to-back Super Bowl appearances.

In his first day of offseason workouts, the veteran wide receiver met with reporters for the first time since the AFC championship loss to Kansas City, where he suffered a deep thigh bruise early in the second quarter of the 23-20 loss. Boyd said he would have finished the game if he was at least 80% healthy.

He said what bothered him the most was the feeling that he let the team down.

"Still to this day, I feel like if I would have played the whole game, I was the key factor," Boyd said. "We would've won the game."

At the time of the injury, Boyd had two catches for 40 yards. He appeared to suffer the injury following a 24-yard completion. At the end of a big gain, Boyd's left leg was caught beneath Kansas City safety Justin Reid as Reid made the tackle. When Boyd stood up following the play, he immediately favored his left leg.

Article continues but is pointless. He goes on to say that landing Orlando Brown Jr. was a victory for them in the rivalry with the Chiefs.

God, I hate the Bengals.

If we didn't have a beat up Mahomes and almost ALL OF OUR RECIEVERS ****ING OUT, it wouldn't even have been close.

"If we had 3 premium WRs while they had zero, I think we win that game..."

Okay, Tyler. Cool.

Kinda says all that needs be said about your squad, doesn't it?

PATRICK ****ING MAHOMES WON THE SUPERBOWL ON ONE FOOT.. BOYD IS A PUSSY..

I feel for him. He must not have had a father figure in his life growing up that told him "Don't be a pussy Tyler", otherwise when there is a chance to go to the SB you play through it.

Not to mention Butker doinking a FG attempt off an upright.

It's pretty funny he thinks they lost cause he got hurt, don't mind that even without him that's a top 5 group over there.

Lol. Yeah that stings.

I literally hope he dies today

The Bills and Bengals should've combined teams, played KC in a dome and waited until Boyd was healthy. Then they could split the Lombardi when their superteam eventually beat the birds and nobody could say they have zero trophies.

Also if they lost they can replay the game until they win because Hamlin

I really hate the Bengals. I have a nagging feeling these pr***s will be around for awhile but man I hope we smash their faces over and over again until we break that franchise

Coming to Cincy's offense this fall...

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That's actually not a bad rep from Brown. He has plenty of them, but that's a pretty standard pass pro rep.

He absorbed the punch from his guy, actualy controlled him, and took him up the arc. Pat kinda put himself in harms way there, though I'm not sure he had much of a choice when Trey Smith got put in his lap.

Smith was horribad for the first half of the season or so. Reps like that kinda demonstrate the problems he was creating out there.

All I’ve gotta say to the guy…

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Travis Kelce has never seen this f***ing guy in his life.

He has a father now, Patrick Mahomes is his daddy.

I've seen this movie a bunch of times; the popular kids recruit one of the friends from the protaganists' group, not so he can be one of them, so they can haze him and leech information off of him. Sorry Orlando, you're that dude.

So what? We were missing our best DB (Sneed)

Hold that L

Yeah, we were missing 4 WR’s, Sneed, Gay, and had a QB running around on one leg. Boyd can go fist his dog.

Patrick Mahomes' Ankle: "I really think me being injured prevented the Chiefs from blowing the Bengals the **** out. That's on me".

Narrators Voice: "It wasn't."

That’s Coach.

Fixed that one for ya

The Bengals can only beat KC if KC hands the game to them...and even then, just barely.

Guess they need them all to beat a hobbled Mahomes and the All Pro receiving trifecta of MVS, Moore, and Marcus Kemp.

It's funny, but even with a healthy Boyd, there was no game that Cincinnati took. It was more of KC giving the game away.

Literally 100% of Kemp's postseason Offensive production came from that game. Just an interesting thought is all...

And yes. they need all of them just to top them, god forbid we had a real WR1 or a healthy WR core.

Hitting the copium hard

IF the queen had balls she would be the king.

What's even more amazing is that they called Kemp up for that game. I guess this also goes to show that Mahomes is the better QB between him and Burrow and it's not even close. Burrow needed all three WRs (two of which would be #1 WRs on almost any team and another is a high #2) and his health to compete against an injured Mahomes and a who's who of JAG receivers.

Holy ****ing shit.

1. PR dude needs fired. Players are coached to say nothing at all better than that.

2. I'm trying to remember but I don't think I've ever seen a team be in a dude's head like that. Even before training camp. That's incredible. Mahomes is rent free in bitches' domes.

I remember that now, I think it was because Watson was insanely ill if I remember right.

And Exactly. Burrow couldn't get the W being healthy and with a Top 3 WR Core.

Mahomes had one leg, Kelce, MVS, Table Scraps at receiver, a RB with a torn labrum and broken hand, and the 2 most pressure allowing tackles in the NFL.

Damn, we're blessed.

Ahem. Kelce with a bad back who was questionable to even play in the game.

Mahomes basically had one leg and an MVS that everyone said wasn't good enough for Aaron Rodgers.

Player thinks he would have made a difference


Slow news day, huh.

Loser says what?

Even had they won Philly would have boat raced them.

If by boat raced you mean dolphin raped

This is a low key blast on his own secondary, isn’t it? They couldn’t even stop MVS when that’s basically all Mahomes had besides Kelce (that almost couldn’t play because of his back)

Someone should retweet that nonsense to his secondary

His line couldnt block Jones either

wait til you see Donovan Smith…

Meh. CIN also didn't have either starting OT, right? Iirc, CIN was down 3/5 of their starting OL.

I mean, we saw what happened when KC didn't have a serviceable OL in 2020. The Chiefs couldn't even score a TD, and we had most of the starting WR/TEs/RBs available to us.

Yeah this is more CP bullshit. If Brown would have re-signed for the deal he got in Cincy this board would kiss Veachs ass but now that hes no longer a Chief he was never good

Well yeah, that's how fandom works. It's science

I like u

And that's not mentioning Mahomes just dropping the ball for a turnover, either. Pretty sure we were marching on that drive, IIRC. A healthy Mahomes ALONE would have given us a blowout win.

I hope Bryan Cook hits Boyd so hard this season that when he wakes up he thinks he's back in that game again.

Mahomes also battled turf toe, the TB DLine was much better than KC's last year, and KC had maybe 1/5 of their starting line in that game (I believe Reiter at center). Wylie who was a guard got kicked out to RT and Remmers a backup RT was shifted to LT. To compare the SB to that game is silly as they aren't the same.

Except he wasn't good and that was well known on here well before he signed with Cincy. The only reason why people would have been happy at all would have been because of stability and familiarity, not because he was good.

I didn’t want Brown at any cost, and said so.

I like this scene because I always think about the guy in the back. (Fred Ward, I think?) If you're an actor, you have to act effectively even if you don't have any lines. I bet they did 20 takes of this little scene, and watch Fred in the back He sells his role fully and effectively.

He will spend the next super bowl looking for Bengals SB wins in a bowl of spaghetti os

People aren't even close to the chiefs.

TB?


regardless, whether they're 'exactly the same' isn't really the point. The point is that losing more than half your starting OL will make a difference in how well your offense executes, n'est-ce pas?

CIN went into the AFFCG last year without the OL they had when they played us in the regular season, fact. it probably made a real difference in how they executed.

Just as losing 4/5 of our OL in 2020 changed how our offense operated. Fine, maybe not in exactly the same way, but in both cases the loss of several starters on the OL hurt each team's ability to execute as well as they did when they had those starters.

As dislikable as the Bengals may be, I am sure everyone here would love to meet the Cincinnati mayor at the George Brett statue. That moron really put his foot in his mouth. They seem to have more than their fair share of stooges in Cincinnati. Stooges

Tampa Bay. Also when KC lost to the Bucs, they were playing a team at full strength with three top WRs of which one is a HOFer and the other would have gone down as a Top 5 WR ever if he wasn't insane (Evans, Brown, Godwin). They also had one of the greatest TEs ever (Gronkowski), a top 5 pick RB who's career had been resurrected (Fournette), and an elite OLine.

Cincinnati lost to a QB who was hobbled by a high ankle sprain, a TE dealing with back issues, and by the end of the game, MVS, Moore, and just brought up from the practice squad Kemp with two turnstiles at T. Oh and a 7th round RB dealing with two injuries. Cincy still had a healthy QB that most consider to be the second best in the NFL, two #1 WRs, Mixon, Perine, and Henry and still lost.

KC played a much stronger overall team in that SB than Cincy did in the AFCCG. The Chiefs offense had to fire on all cylinders to keep up with that Bucs team. Cincy could not outscore a KC offense decimated by injuries and yet them being down three linemen was the equivalent to KCs SB loss?

Brown was a solid LT here

depends on if its a healthy 2021 or and injured 2022 Donovan Smith...

Solid is a stretch there. He was passable. If he were "solid" there would have been a bidding war for him. There wasn't and now he's being paid far less than what a "solid" LT should make. Don't let Mahomes ability to avoid the rush fool you into thinking Brown Jr was better than he really was.

Ah, now I get it.


No, I didn't say it was equivalent. I said losing several starters along your OL would change how well the team executed its offense, and I used the KC SBLV team as an obvious example of how that's true. There's several other examples, but i know everyone remembers that team/game, so that's the one i used.


You're getting into the actual results of a particular game. I'm simply referring to a well-known game, but my point is just that losing several starters from an OL will necessarily reduce that team's efficiency on offense.


And we almost didn't win that game. In the end, it took a slow start by CIN, a pair of uncharacteristic INTs by Burrow, a career performance from MVS, and it literally took a great return from a much-maligned rookie WR and a terrible roughing penalty for KC to win that game. Terrible as in, what was Ossai thinking???

Look, I'm not making excuses for CIN, I just noticed that no one seemed to remember that they weren't at their best either. We beat them yes, but that wasn't the same team we faced earlier in the season. They were a little banged up in the AFCCG.

Those bitches woulda got ROLLED by Philly. We did them a favor and helped them not get blown out in a SB. Imagine needing 3 #1’s to beat the team that beat you with MVS and a bunch of 5 and 6’s! Embarrassing! How many quarterbacks have made it back to the SB after losing their first?? Single digits….

Fyp, Showtime!

right!

they lost Boyd but we were down to Marcus Kemp lol

I will agree with you that losing some starting Olinemen will affect the offense some, but that team had more than enough firepower left to offset it. Losing your top WRs and having your mobile QB hobbled with a high ankle sprain reduces a team's efficiency on offense. Did certain things go right for KC? Sure. But let's not forget the uncharacteristic fumble by Mahomes with KC driving that cost them at minimum 3 points if not possibly 7.

It took a lot for Cincy to even be in that game. If memory serves me wasn't one INT called back and another dropped? Cincinnati got lucky that went their way. Pacheco had a TD called back on a very weak, questionable hold as well. If anything Cincinnati was fortunate it wasn't a blowout. KC had to make adjustments that the Bengals could not.

They may not have been at their best, but they were still far healthier than KC, especially at the one position that mattered most.

Do people not realize Smith was one of the best pass blockers in the NFL in 2021?

Last year, he battled through injuries all year long. He was, admittedly, not good.

The Chiefs are betting on health and a bounce back year.

I like the bet.

Andy knows Oline. If he is on board with this, then I am as well.

Well, yeah. I was never disagreeing with your argument about how things shook out. i agree with almost all of it.

:toast:

I bet you say that to all the boys. ;)

Did the Bungles do anything with their interior line? Burrow is going be a whipping post. He will lead the league in getting sacked again.

Boyd, Hilton & Burrow drink Bud Light & shop at Target.

The wildest thing I heard is after 3 years, Chase is still the youngest receiver on their roster. Even with the rookies.

Posted this on the Donovan Smith Signing thread, but its fitting here too apparently.

Regular Season Stats:

2022 Orlando allowed 2.765 pressures per game

2022 Wylie allowed 2.88 pressures per game

2022 (Mostly Injured) Donovan allowed 2.385 pressures per game

2021 (Healthy) Donovan allowed 1.765 pressures per game.

Pressure numbers are from PFF.

I think he'll fit in just fine.

Not to mention how Mahomes Pressure to Sack Ratio makes his Oline even better (Somewhere around 11% for his career I believe while no other QB in that timespan is lower than 14.5% or something like that, trying to find the stat on that).

There is no scenario where Smith was better than Brown past year

I think that blanket statements like that can easily be wrong.

I don't think he's better, I think that data concludes he's an effective pass blocker, ESPECIALLY when healthy. Don't get me wrong, he has penalty issues, and that very well could come back to bite us, but a lot of people are acting as if this is a significant drop off when it's minor at most in my opinion.

Breaking down Pressure to snap ratio, OBJ allowed pressure on 6.5% of snaps in 22, and 5.0% of snaps in 21, compared to 5.22% and 3.9% respectively for Smith (Regular Season numbers)

He's nowhere as effective a run blocker as OBJ in my opinion, but that can still work with our offense.

On the whole, he has allowed less pressures per opportunity than OBJ the last 2 years (even with the hyperextended elbow and foot problems). And don't get me wrong, part of that can be scheming, but I trust Heck and Andy here to bring the best out of him, injured or not.

Forgot to include, his foot speed is substantially better than OBJs in my opinion, and he should be substantially better against the speed rush.

Brown Jr was a good run blocker. He was also good at just being big. That probably was a reason why he was a good run blocker.

The T stands for triggered, right??

Hope Boyd keeps up the talk...until next time.

“You know, we have a nice little rivalry with the Chiefs and to see him come over, you know, it’s like, yeah, we one-upped y’all."

Yep, shitty LT's they sure did. We'll take the Lombardi's.

I will repeat that I think the Chiefs OTs got barbecued, often unfairly, by the person who was 'grading' the pressures.

The pressures just don't check out. They don't align with anything else that team did. The sack rate, the pass block win rates - none of them make sense if you also conclude that the Chiefs were abysmal at giving up pressures from OT.

But if you think those pressure figures were inflated by maybe 1/3, suddenly everything else lines out pretty sensibly, right down to Brown being better than Smith last season (when he undeniably was better than a hobbled Smith).

I just don't put much stock in the pressure numbers. They're too subjective and I've seen PFF graders get hard-ons for guys too many times in the past to believe that it couldn't have happened here.

I noticed it back in 2012/2013 when PFF wrote a pre-season article about how great Rob Ninkovich was. Then low and behold, the 2012 season happens and what do you know, Rob Ninkovich was a monster by PFF's grading! Meanwhile Chandler Jones goes out there and gets 13 sacks and is considered barely a fringe average pass rusher according to PFF.

These 'graders' are simply not above confirmation bias. And it shows time and time again. I absolutely think that's what happened with the pressures surrendered by Brown and Wylie. You just can't have the kind of pass rush win rates they had and still have the poor pressure rates they had.