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beach tribe 01-13-2009 02:25 PM

Clark Hunt!!
 
It is time to remove all doubt that Clark Hunt is an exceptional owner.
He is man of his word, and I have never seen a GM search handled with such professionalism. It is a good day, and era to be a Chiefs fan. REJOICE!!
I can't think of a anyone else I would want to be running the Chiefs.
Clark is my new most admired person. WE LOVE YOU CLARK!!!!

BYE BYE HERMIE!!

CupidStunt 01-13-2009 02:28 PM

I wouldn't go that far. THUS FAR, he's doing a good job. It's still far too early. It's not like we didn't just witness 6-26. Personally I would've fired Carl and Herm after 4-12 if I was in Clark's shoes. They pulled a great draft out of their ass (although it obviously wasn't just them, and a new GM/coach might've done the same), but they also crippled some of the new players by shitty coaching.

rambleonthruthefog 01-13-2009 02:29 PM

for hes a jolly good fellow
for hes a jolly good fellow
for hes a jolly good fellow
which nobody can deny.

Buehler445 01-13-2009 02:29 PM

What? Did we hire someone?

beach tribe 01-13-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lj4mvp (Post 5385715)
I wouldn't go that far. THUS FAR, he's doing a good job. It's still far too early. It's not like we didn't just witness 6-26. Personally I would've fired Carl and Herm after 4-12 if I was in Clark's shoes. They pulled a great draft out of their ass (although it obviously wasn't just them, and a new GM/coach might've done the same), but they also crippled some of the new players by shitty coaching.

I'm not sure it wasn't his intent to lose ass this season, and dump Herm in the process. It seems like he has built up to this point. He wanted high picks, and didn't let Carl or Herm spend a damn dollar in FAs. The guy is smart he knew we weren't going to win shit this season, and it has worked to perfection.

teedubya 01-13-2009 02:32 PM

Clark Mother ****ing Hunt!! You da motha ****in man!!!

Mr. Arrowhead 01-13-2009 02:33 PM

Clark is Da Man

Rooster 01-13-2009 02:34 PM

I love me some Clark.

Chief Henry 01-13-2009 02:36 PM

I will have a drink or two tonight and toast Mr. Hunt :)

eazyb81 01-13-2009 02:37 PM

No shit. You gotta hand it to the man. He went out and hired the best candidate available, and did it out without leaking info every step of the way.

Like it or not, he did it the right way, and showed he's serious about making this franchise a winner.

beach tribe 01-13-2009 02:38 PM

I just Jizzed in my pants!!

Mr. Flopnuts 01-13-2009 02:40 PM

What the **** is going on in here?

DeezNutz 01-13-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5385780)
No shit. You gotta hand it to the man. He went out and hired the best candidate available, and did it out without leaking info every step of the way.

Like it or not, he did it the right way, and showed he's serious about making this franchise a winner.

Exactly.

chiefscafan 01-13-2009 02:43 PM

Today shows we have an owner who wants to win I am estatic

Mr. Flopnuts 01-13-2009 02:43 PM

OMFG!!!!!!

beach tribe 01-13-2009 02:43 PM

OOOOHHHHHH YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Frosty 01-13-2009 02:53 PM

I'm tempering my enthusiasm until I see the "Herm Fired!!" threads but so far, so good! :thumb:

MGRS13 01-13-2009 02:55 PM

He aint gettin no praise from me until he fires herm.

Mr. Laz 01-13-2009 02:59 PM

Clark went out and got "THE MAN"

no matter what happens with Pioli in the future at least Clark shot for the top. :clap: :clap:

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-13-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5385726)
What? Did we hire someone?

Jimmy Raye

beach tribe 01-13-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 5385929)
He aint gettin no praise from me until he fires herm.

Hey Clark has done everything he was supposed to, and promised to do. He did his job to the utmost perfection.

Look to Pioli for what's to come. Clarks' job is DONE!!!

KChiefs1 01-13-2009 06:03 PM

Clark might want to win more than Lamar did.

Dayze 01-13-2009 06:53 PM

"I'm Clark Hunt B*TCH"!

R&GHomer 01-13-2009 07:05 PM

I couldn't have asked for a better owner up to this point. Putting back a few cold ones in his honor. NOW FIRE HERM and the rest of these guys and lets get going. Wow, what an exciting time to be a fan. :BLVD:

Tribal Warfare 01-13-2009 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 5387231)
Clark might want to win more than Lamar did.

or get out of his legendary father's shadow.

tmax63 01-13-2009 07:08 PM

Is this the same board who has been defacating their pants and blaming CH for the last week because nothing had happened yet???

warrior 01-13-2009 07:11 PM

Well yeah ??????

BigRedChief 01-13-2009 07:14 PM

He has proven all he needs to me.

He just laid out a bunch of money for Pioli. He's going to have to pay King Carl and Herm for the last year of their contracts. He could have waited and let them finish but he pulled the trigger now. He went out and got the best GM available.

Major props to Mr. Clark Hunt. His first major decision and he hits it out of the park

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 07:15 PM

Well done, sir. :clap:

Stinger 01-13-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5385788)
I just Jizzed in my pants!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5385832)
OOOOHHHHHH YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!

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Lurker2:-)=) 01-13-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5387564)
He has proven all he needs to me.

He just laid out a bunch of money for Pioli. He's going to have to pay King Carl and Herm for the last year of their contracts. He could have waited and let them finish but he pulled the trigger now. He went out and got the best GM available.

Major props to Mr. Clark Hunt. His first major decision and he hits it out of the park

I agree. Way to go!! The top GM prospect, who knows how to build a team and work WITH a NEW COACH!!! :D :clap: :clap: :clap:

Rausch 01-13-2009 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 5387519)
Is this the same board who has been defacating their pants and blaming CH for the last week because nothing had happened yet???

:grr:

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kstater 01-13-2009 08:49 PM

fap fap fap

Skip Towne 01-13-2009 09:03 PM

Clark has done what he is supposed to do thus far. But it is far too early to celebrate. Remember all of the "Superbowl for certain" BS when Vermiel came aboard? This could be more of the same.

cdcox 01-13-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5388148)
Clark has done what he is supposed to do thus far. But it is far too early to celebrate. Remember all of the "Superbowl for certain" BS when Vermiel came aboard? This could be more of the same.

I'm just wondering of the trophy case in the new Arrowhead is going to be big enough to hold all of the Lombardis we are going to win.

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5388148)
Clark has done what he is supposed to do thus far. But it is far too early to celebrate. Remember all of the "Superbowl for certain" BS when Vermiel came aboard? This could be more of the same.

It's not that anyone thinks this guarantees anything.

It's about how Clark has handled it. He was thorough, professional, and hired the guy considered the best available talent on the market.

And the cheap play would have been to let CP and Herm ride out another season. Now he's paying double for a season. For a business man, that's a tough pill to swallow.

But the man wants to win. He's proven that much. And really, that's all we can ask for.

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388156)
I'm just wondering of the trophy case in the new Arrowhead is going to be big enough to hold all of the Lombardis we are going to win.

Come on, man. You know nobody (reasonable) is saying that... don't ya?

Danman 01-13-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 5387519)
Is this the same board who has been defacating their pants and blaming CH for the last week because nothing had happened yet???

I love the way Clark handled this-out of town in Dallas and without press leaks. Fantastic. We, the fans can bitch all we want. . . and we will. . . about not having any info. The truth is we don't know how many GM and HC candidates he's already talked to. He had a plan, and he executed it beutifully

Hell he may even have told Herm weeks ago he was fired. Remember the week Herm was flat for his weekly press conference? I wouldn't put it past Clark to have fired Herm then and told him if he leaked that info before the new GM and HC were named he'd not only not pay him the final year of his salary but also sue him for breech of contract

cdcox 01-13-2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5388176)
Come on, man. You know nobody (reasonable) is saying that... don't ya?

I AM.

I've waited 39 years. I probably don't have 39 more left. I'm going to be optimistic and enjoy every minute. At least for tonight.

Danman 01-13-2009 09:13 PM

I want Clark to get used to holding the Lamar Hunt Trophy.

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388197)
I AM.

I've waited 39 years. I probably don't have 39 more left. I'm going to be optimistic and enjoy every minute. At least for tonight.

Damn... and here I thought you were being all sarcastic, when you were just basking in the glow.

My bad. :D :toast:

beach tribe 01-13-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5388176)
Come on, man. You know nobody (reasonable) is saying that... don't ya?

Obviously not. No one is saying anything is going to happen. God or bad. Just that Clark did the absolute best thing for this organization, and has shown he will do what it takes. That is what is being celebrated. Not our guaranteed SB trophies.

beach tribe 01-13-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388197)
I AM.

I've waited 39 years. I probably don't have 39 more left. I'm going to be optimistic and enjoy every minute. At least for tonight.

Oh...No shit...well.....I'm in.

Skip Towne 01-13-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388156)
I'm just wondering of the trophy case in the new Arrowhead is going to be big enough to hold all of the Lombardis we are going to win.

Yep, that was the spirit around here when VD showed up.

RippedmyFlesh 01-13-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5388282)
Yep, that was the spirit around here when VD showed up.

But the shadow of peterson was still present.
I am 10X more excited now than I was when DV was hired.

cdcox 01-13-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5388282)
Yep, that was the spirit around here when VD showed up.

Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years, while in later years, it's all dope. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> dope, hope, dope

We're entering a golden age.

KcMizzou 01-13-2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388336)
Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> hope, dope, dope

We're entering a golden age.

You've got all this shit figured out. That's what I like about you.

luv 01-13-2009 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388336)
Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years, while in later years, it's all dope. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> dope, hope, dope

We're entering a golden age.

Looking at the outcome of the other golden eras, are you telling us to remain cautious (as Skip obviously is), or are you saying you honestly expect better results?

cdcox 01-13-2009 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5388369)
Looking at the outcome of the other golden eras, are you telling us to remain cautious (as Skip obviously is), or are you saying you honestly expect better results?

Golden eras are a time for celebration and dancing in the streets. If you wait until the golden age is at its peak (mid way through our run of 9 SBs) you'll miss out on half of the fun.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5388172)
It's not that anyone thinks this guarantees anything.

It's about how Clark has handled it. He was thorough, professional, and hired the guy considered the best available talent on the market.

And the cheap play would have been to let CP and Herm ride out another season. Now he's paying double for a season. For a business man, that's a tough pill to swallow.

But the man wants to win. He's proven that much. And really, that's all we can ask for.

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5388210)
Obviously not. No one is saying anything is going to happen. God or bad. Just that Clark did the absolute best thing for this organization, and has shown he will do what it takes. That is what is being celebrated. Not our guaranteed SB trophies.

The Chiefs have finally realized what I've been saying for years:

"It takes money to make money".

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5388322)
But the shadow of peterson was still present.
I am 10X more excited now than I was when DV was hired.

This. There's going to be a bit of shell-shock during Pioli's tenure. After 40+ years of mediocrity and epic suck, the Chiefs Nation is just not used to seeing a football franchise run in a Platinum Standard way.
A year from now we're going to be very excited but also very pissed because we'll all be looking back over the Steadman/Peterson eras and asking ourselves why this didn't happen 10 years earlier.


Mr. Clark Hunt has stepped up in the most gargantuan way this franchise has seen since Lamar Hunt and company founded the AFL. He has also demonstrated a business acumen that will eventually put him at the head of the Owners Table.
He's begun writing his own story in Chiefs History, and the first two chapters have been nothing less than stunning.

Thank YOU Mr. Clark Hunt; I look forward to growing old, cranky and senile with you at the helm of this Great Sports Institution!

Super Bowl Bound in 2010, Baby!:wayne:PBJ:toast::rockon::thumb:

rambleonthruthefog 01-23-2009 04:52 PM

thought i'd dig up this bad boy!!!! Clark Hunt stepped up. no doubt about it.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog (Post 5419840)
thought i'd dig up this bad boy!!!! Clark Hunt stepped up. no doubt about it.

Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

RealSNR 01-23-2009 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420844)
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

Your signature makes no sense whatsoever.

Bwana 01-23-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420844)
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

Huh?

JuicesFlowing 01-23-2009 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420844)
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

How?

KcMizzou 01-23-2009 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420844)
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

:spock:

KcMizzou 01-23-2009 07:51 PM

I don't think we need to question Clark's desire to win anymore.

All that stuff about Fiji and soccer seems pretty silly now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5420871)
Your signature makes no sense whatsoever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 5420892)
Huh?

Then let me explain.

There was nothing "meticulous" about the search for a head coach. This was the epitome of the lazy, "take what you can get" move.

And if you think the Chiefs are going to build a "Championship Team" with Shannahan at the helm? Well, you'll see soon enough, and for four to five years.

KcMizzou 01-23-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420911)
Then let me explain.

There was nothing "meticulous" about the search for a head coach. This was the epitome of the lazy, "take what you can get" move.

And if you think the Chiefs are going to build a "Championship Team" with Shannahan at the helm? Well, you'll see soon enough, and for four to five years.

Did I miss a press conference or something?

RealSNR 01-23-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420911)
Then let me explain.

There was nothing "meticulous" about the search for a head coach. This was the epitome of the lazy, "take what you can get" move.

And if you think the Chiefs are going to build a "Championship Team" with Shannahan at the helm? Well, you'll see soon enough, and for four to five years.

I mean, your signature is just a smattering of semi-complete sentences.

I assume you mean that Clark and Pioli using buzzwords about championship teams doesn't make them saviors of this organization.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5420919)
Did I miss a press conference or something?

It's all but Official; Shannahan is the new Head Coach.

RedThat 01-23-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5388336)
Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years, while in later years, it's all dope. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> dope, hope, dope

We're entering a golden age.

the "philosopher" cdcox

KcMizzou 01-23-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420924)
It's all but Official; Shannahan is the new Head Coach.

Getting an early start on being Shannahan's Reerun?

(And I certainly don't know about "all but Official")

stevieray 01-23-2009 07:59 PM

ropeahope

bishop_74 01-23-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420924)
It's all but Official; Shannahan is the new Head Coach.

What? That's not true. There are whispers that they are in negotiations that may or may not be true.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5420923)
I mean, your signature is just a smattering of semi-complete sentences.

I assume you mean that Clark and Pioli using buzzwords about championship teams doesn't make them saviors of this organization.

I mean that they said one thing, and are CLEARLY doing another.

I thought this franchise had finally turned a corner, but it's pretty obvious to me that we're right back to "Asses in the seats, and good enough is good enough".

This move makes no sense whatsoever in terms of the vision that was presented.
All I have to say, is that I better be witness to the Greatest Press Conference in the history of organized sports.
I better hear a plausible justification from Pioli or Hunt regarding this hire, and I better hear something other than the usual "blah-blah-blah" from Shannahan; he better dazzle me to the point of inability to see.

I didn't put up with Gunther, The Crybaby, and Herman "In over my head" Edwards for this franchise, at a crossroads and in a position to do something great, to pull such a mediocre decision.

All this talk and ragging on "True Fans" has been justified. That said, the ranks of the TF's have just swollen, and are now occupied by a great number of the same people here who laughed at them.

RealSNR 01-23-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420961)
I mean that they said one thing, and are CLEARLY doing another.

I thought this franchise had finally turned a corner, but it's pretty obvious to me that we're right back to "Asses in the seats, and good enough is good enough".

This move makes no sense whatsoever in terms of the vision that was presented.
All I have to say, is that I better be witness to the Greatest Press Conference in the history of organized sports.
I better hear a plausible justification from Pioli or Hunt regarding this hire, and I better hear something other than the usual "blah-blah-blah" from Shannahan; he better dazzle me to the point of inability to see.

I didn't put up with Gunther, The Crybaby, and Herman "In over my head" Edwards for this franchise, at a crossroads and in a position to do something great, to pull such a mediocre decision.

All this talk and ragging on "True Fans" has been justified. That said, the ranks of the TF's have just swollen, and are now occupied by a great many numbr of the same people here who laughed at them.

Who's your pick for head coach? Haley?

stevieray 01-23-2009 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420961)

All this talk and ragging on "True Fans" has been justified. That said, the ranks of the TF's have just swollen, and are now occupied by a great number of the same people here who laughed at them.

prolly the most overexaggerated psuedo 'lexicon' ever discussed....


:shake:

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5420963)
Who's your pick for head coach? Haley?

Nah. I'd love him as a OC( who wouldn't ), but I'd much rather have a DC from Baltimore or Pittsburgh as the Chiefs Head Coach.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 5420970)
prolly the most overexaggerated psuedo 'lexicon' ever discussed....


:shake:

You can call it "Jimmy Crack Corn" if you like; it is what it is.

KChiefs1 01-23-2009 08:15 PM

Cowher has been looking for houses in the area...I'm not giving up!

beach tribe 01-23-2009 08:18 PM

The chin FTW.

LOCOChief 01-23-2009 08:18 PM

Cowher is the man for the job

RealSNR 01-23-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5420972)
Nah. I'd love him as a OC( who wouldn't ), but I'd much rather have a DC from Baltimore or Pittsburgh as the Chiefs Head Coach.

I'm noticing you sounded a lot like a Frenchman from the 1790s in your previous post. You make a lot of demands and point fingers at people around you for the problems in spite of the incredible progress that's been made.

Carl's gone. Pioli's here. Herm's gone. That's a HUGE step in the right direction. That's why masses of Chiefs fans are buying "True Fan" stock right now, because most of the things they think they need have been satisfied and realized by the owner Clark Hunt. They see a competant guy in Clark at the head, who has hired a brilliant mind to make important decisions like this.

If they hired Shanahan, I'd be shocked, but I wouldn't be disappointed. Keep in mind, he was a great, young, promising coordinator before becoming a coach, just like the kind of guy you want. I think his problems in Denver were due to him just overstaying his welcome. It happens to the best of coaches who have been in one place for awhile.

Also, keep in mind, the way this organization is going to be run from now on is by the head coach and the GM being in agreeance on the direction. I'd think Shanahan if hired would be alerted to Pioli's method, and not his usual way of drafting first round usts.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5421008)
I'm noticing you sounded a lot like a Frenchman from the 1790s in your previous post. You make a lot of demands and point fingers at people around you for the problems in spite of the incredible progress that's been made.

Carl's gone. Pioli's here. Herm's gone. That's a HUGE step in the right direction. That's why masses of Chiefs fans are buying "True Fan" stock right now, because most of the things they think they need have been satisfied and realized by the owner Clark Hunt. They see a competant guy in Clark at the head, who has hired a brilliant mind to make important decisions like this.

If they hired Shanahan, I'd be shocked, but I wouldn't be disappointed. Keep in mind, he was a great, young, promising coordinator before becoming a coach, just like the kind of guy you want. I think his problems in Denver were due to him just overstaying his welcome. It happens to the best of coaches who have been in one place for awhile.

Also, keep in mind, the way this organization is going to be run from now on is by the head coach and the GM being in agreeance on the direction. I'd think Shanahan if hired would be alerted to Pioli's method, and not his usual way of drafting first round usts.

I'll concede that MS's multiple roles probably had a hand in the decline of his performance, just as it screwed KC via Carl.
But is he coming here because he really believes in this franchise and the talent, or is it just petty vindictiveness towards Bowlen?

I'm not trying to stir the shit here, I am genuinely worried about the future of this team.

This has all the potential of a "One step forward, two steps back" outcome.

DeezNutz 01-23-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5421042)
I'll concede that MS's multiple roles probably had a hand in the decline of his performance, just as it screwed KC via Carl.
But is he coming here because he really believes in this franchise and the talent, or is it just petty vindictiveness towards Bowlen?

I'm not trying to stir the shit here, I am genuinely worried about the future of this team.

This has all the potential of a "One step forward, two steps back" outcome.

Chill out.

For all the talk about "working as a team" and all the niceties, this is Pioli's ship now, and I'm sure he's smart enough to see through any bullshit that potential suitors might throw at him.

After all, Herm's political maneuverings didn't work...

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5421049)
Chill out.

For all the talk about "working as a team" and all the niceties, this is Pioli's ship now, and I'm sure he's smart enough to see through any bullshit that potential suitors might throw at him.

After all, Herm's political maneuverings didn't work...

True that. I'll give Scott and Mike a chance if it has to go that way, but I think it's pretty safe to say that I'm not alone in believing that hiring Mike raises the expectation level through the roof and most-definitely shortens the leash for both.

DeezNutz 01-23-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5421080)
True that. I'll give Scott and Mike a chance if it has to go that way, but I think it's pretty safe to say that I'm not alone in believing that hiring Mike raises the expectation level through the roof and most-definitely shortens the leash for both.

Oh, **** yes it raises the level of expectations. 5 SB rings between them tend to do that.

I don't think that shortens a leash, though. If anything, I think it would do the opposite.

If things would, for some strange reason, go completely south, past successes might inspire more patience. Something along the lines of, "They've done it before, so I'm sure they'll do it again."

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-23-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5421085)
Oh, **** yes it raises the level of expectations. 5 SB rings between them tend to do that.

I don't think that shortens a leash, though. If anything, I think it would do the opposite.

If things would, for some strange reason, go completely south, past successes might inspire more patience. Something along the lines of, "They've done it before, so I'm sure they'll do it again."

I could just about kill ESPN. When I left the house they were 100% that Mike was the guy. Now other sources say "No".

This shit can't end soon enough.

DeezNutz 01-23-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5421090)
I could just about kill ESPN. When I left the house they were 100% that Mike was the guy. Now other sources say "No".

This shit can't end soon enough.

From my perspective, it's just fun to be the story.

Been awhile since that's been the case with this team.


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