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dlphg9 03-26-2022 08:07 PM

***Official 2022-2023 Missouri Tigers Men's Basketball***
 
Expecting big things boys!

Missouri got rid of crappy CM and the board went out and got one of the top coaches according to some in Cleveland State's Dennis Gates.

In 2 days he has 2 recruits

Top JUCO player 6' 10" Mohamed Diarra
Transport portal DeAndre Gholston who avg 15 pts at Milwaukee over the past 2 years

Very excited!

Reerun_KC 03-26-2022 08:36 PM

In…..

Archie Bunker 03-26-2022 08:39 PM

Been a long time since it mattered to me like it used to, hoping for the best. I miss it.

Stanley Nickels 03-26-2022 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 16217455)
Been a long time since it mattered to me like it used to, hoping for the best. I miss it.

Co-signed.

OKchiefs 03-26-2022 09:57 PM

Interested to see who his assistants will be. Was never a fan of CM but I think he might of lasted a little longer here if he wasn’t bound to the same crappy assistants he refused to move on from.

Jerm 03-26-2022 10:31 PM

CDG is already putting in work getting a couple of really solid JUCO transfers….I like it.

warpaint* 03-26-2022 10:36 PM

The second guys a scrub, ploy to get his 5* teammate.

First looks like a good get, shoots well considering his size and doesn’t look like a lumbering elephant in stark contrast to the bigs CM had been gracing us with as of late.

As for Gates overall only the Lord knows.

KChiefs1 03-26-2022 10:57 PM

Better than Cuonzo.

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Mizzou_8541 03-27-2022 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 16217561)
The second guys a scrub, ploy to get his 5* teammate.

First looks like a good get, shoots well considering his size and doesn’t look like a lumbering elephant in stark contrast to the bigs CM had been gracing us with as of late.

As for Gates overall only the Lord knows.

This really couldn’t be more wrong. He’s a 6-5 JUCO PG from UW-Milwaukee who can score from anywhere. Averaged 17ppg and 37% from 3. 44% from 3 the year prior. CDG has played against him twice and knows exactly what he’s getting. We don’t have a single D1 caliber point guard on the roster. You’re getting a proven scorer for one year.

Second, he doesn’t have a 5* teammate. You are referring to the son of the Gholston’s coach who was recently fired. He has a 5* son. That coach was an assistant at Northwestern with CDGs brother Armon Gates. Any connection to Baldwin Jr, the 5* son is via CDGs brother, who will not be on the staff at Mizzou.

But yes I’m sure taking a Sr PG transfer from a school who fired their coach is a “ploy” to get a high school kid. Lol.

warpaint* 03-27-2022 03:01 AM

You’re correct about Baldwin Jr being the former coaches son, you’re incorrect about him being in high school. He just finished his frosh season at Milwaukee and is expected to hit the portal due to the obv and was Golstons teammate this past season.

As for Golstons ability I do not agree but would prefer if you were right obv.

Mizzou_8541 03-27-2022 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 16217619)
You’re correct about Baldwin Jr being the former coaches son, you’re incorrect about him being in high school. He just finished his frosh season at Milwaukee and is expected to hit the portal due to the obv and was Golstons teammate this past season.

As for Golstons ability I do not agree but would prefer if you were right obv.

Ah - cool. At the end of the day, I’m happy with with both transfers and hopefully we can get Baldwin.

duncan_idaho 03-27-2022 06:21 AM

Gates already building up reasons to hope.

Both additions are nice. They also have the top JUCO PG on campus this weekend (Sean East).

I don’t think the Gholston “take” is purely about the connection to Pat Baldwin, Jr. I think he also is viewed as a solid player who can help the team. He’s a big and physical guard with a decent skill level and good shot.

Gates met with Aidan Shaw over Zoom and plans to visit him in person this week. Think there’s a good shot they get Shaw back in the fold and keep Brazile.

Length, athleticism, and skill are things Gates seems to prize. Nice to see a coach who cares about those things rather than toughness and grit!

Mizzou_8541 03-27-2022 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16217697)
Gates already building up reasons to hope.

Both additions are nice. They also have the top JUCO PG on campus this weekend (Sean East).

I don’t think the Gholston “take” is purely about the connection to Pat Baldwin, Jr. I think he also is viewed as a solid player who can help the team. He’s a big and physical guard with a decent skill level and good shot.

Gates met with Aidan Shaw over Zoom and plans to visit him in person this week. Think there’s a good shot they get Shaw back in the fold and keep Brazile.

Length, athleticism, and skill are things Gates seems to prize. Nice to see a coach who cares about those things rather than toughness and grit!

And sitting up straight in your chair….

gblowfish 03-27-2022 07:51 AM

Anything has got to be better than Cuonzo.


Anything.

siberian khatru 03-27-2022 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 16217775)
Anything has got to be better than Cuonzo.


Anything.

Kim Anderson

gblowfish 03-27-2022 07:53 AM

Almost anything would be better than Cuonzo.

Almost anything.

warpaint* 03-27-2022 09:08 AM

Yes it’s nice to have something to hope for in hoops again.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-27-2022 10:46 AM

Anderson was so bad he finished 12 games under .500 at Pitt State. His best season was his first, and his record got worse every year from year three on.

He wasn't just a bad P5 coach; he was a bad D-II coach.

Outside of Dave Bliss, there hasn't been a worse basketball hire in at least 25 years.

JohnnyHammersticks 03-28-2022 09:08 PM

First I'm seeing of these recruits. Even a remote chance of turning things around would be a major upgrade. Last 2 games I watched this season were the KU game and the last LSU game. So obviously it didn't feel like I missed much. Before last season I watched almost every single Mizzou game. Being that disconnected from the Tigers made me totally disconnected from college hoops this year. I didn't know Coach K was retiring until I was in Vegas a couple weeks ago, and I didn't bet hoops while I was there because I had no knowledge of any of the teams.

Really hope Gates is the guy who gets it turned around.

Titty Meat 03-28-2022 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 16218052)
Anderson was so bad he finished 12 games under .500 at Pitt State. His best season was his first, and his record got worse every year from year three on.

He wasn't just a bad P5 coach; he was a bad D-II coach.

Outside of Dave Bliss, there hasn't been a worse basketball hire in at least 25 years.

Fred Hoiberg at Nebraska

7-25
7-22
10-22

DJ's left nut 03-28-2022 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16221362)
Fred Hoiberg at Nebraska

7-25
7-22
10-22

Fred Hoiberg took 4 straight Iowa St teams to the tournament.

The problem for Hoiberg at Nebraska was Nebraska.

Kim Anderson, OTOH, never had any success in DI and the only time he succeeded at the lower levels was when he had those super-teams full of DI guys who were stopping through.

Hamas is right - you really would have to cover up the murder of one of your players by ANOTHER of your players to be worse than Kim Anderson.

Titty Meat 03-28-2022 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16221382)
Fred Hoiberg took 4 straight Iowa St teams to the tournament.

The problem for Hoiberg at Nebraska was Nebraska.

Kim Anderson, OTOH, never had any success in DI and the only time he succeeded at the lower levels was when he had those super-teams full of DI guys who were stopping through.

Hamas is right - you really would have to cover up the murder of one of your players by ANOTHER of your players to be worse than Kim Anderson.

Turned over the roster his first year. Had a player drafted last year, a 5* this year thats going round 1 with several transfers that were 4*. He's doing Kim Anderson numbers with far more talent than Anderson had.

Jerm 03-28-2022 10:25 PM

Looks like Pinson may be on his way back…

Mizzou_8541 03-29-2022 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 16221396)
Looks like Pinson may be on his way back…

What a weird situation. I don’t know how more wins he would have added this year, but who knows if cuonzo won even just one or two more, he might have came back. I feel bad about being glad someone is gone, but not that bad given he walked away with $6M.

DJ's left nut 03-29-2022 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 16221396)
Looks like Pinson may be on his way back…

I'd go ahead and give Gates the rope to hang himself if he can bring back my boy X.

Still can't believe our mouth-breathing mongoloid of a coach benched that kid during a damn NCAA tournament game. Unreal.

warpaint* 03-29-2022 09:35 AM

Sign me up for X and the East kid. X is a limited player but a decent one and is a big upgrade and as good as what’s out there in terms of PG’s. As for East IDK, he did well at JUCO this yr but was not very good for Bradley or UMASS before that but we need more than one PG and currently have none.

Hard pass on the ILL PG who entered yesterday his shooting #’s are awful.

phisherman 03-29-2022 10:18 AM

NOT ENOUGH GRIT

Prison Bitch 04-05-2022 09:20 AM

Scheduling update:

The defending NCAA champions will be visiting Columbia next year.

Woogieman 04-05-2022 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16233586)
Scheduling update:

The defending NCAA champions will be visiting Columbia next year.

Will they be on probation yet? I'm guessing they lose 1 scholarship and have 2 cars restricted from the parade

dlphg9 04-05-2022 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16233598)
Will they be on probation yet? I'm guessing they lose 1 scholarship and have 2 cars restricted from the parade

Was listening to 610 and it seems that the word around Lawrence is that KU was going to get a 1 year post season ban, but Bill told the NCAA that he'd take a 2 year ban where he couldn't coach in the tournament.

No clue if the NCAA would accept it.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-05-2022 09:53 AM

Cautiously hesitant and bordering on reluctance to be excited about anything Mizzou basketball thanks to Cuonzo and Kim Blahhhhnderson

dlphg9 04-05-2022 09:59 AM

Missouri basketball, when it's not absolute shit bad, is basically my favorite sport to watch. I'm excited for the coaching change.

dlphg9 04-06-2022 06:35 PM

Aiden Shaw back to Mizzou. Number 50 recruit in the nation. Big time get.

Archie Bunker 04-06-2022 06:37 PM

Wow really didn’t think he’d stick. Good start to the Gates era.

DJ's left nut 04-06-2022 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16236189)
Aiden Shaw back to Mizzou. Number 50 recruit in the nation. Big time get.

Well he lost Brazile so I’d say he’s still underwater here.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-06-2022 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16236201)
Well he lost Brazile so I’d say he’s still underwater here.

It's a little unrealistic to expect him to hold on to everyone with how the portal has incentivized leaving.

Jerm 04-06-2022 07:39 PM

I’m really impressed with the work Gates is doing on the recruiting trail without a staff basically….dude has won me over already. Can’t wait!

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-06-2022 07:47 PM

Missouri still has a team?

Demonpenz 04-06-2022 07:53 PM

Missouri should get some transfers

Archie Bunker 04-06-2022 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16236254)
Missouri still has a team?

They have uniforms and everything

dlphg9 04-07-2022 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16236201)
Well he lost Brazile so I’d say he’s still underwater here.

You're being very unfair with this hire.

lawrenceRaider 04-07-2022 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16236956)
You're being very unfair with this hire.

Missouri is the Show Me state, so perhaps you aren't playing to type.

WhawhaWhat 04-14-2022 08:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Missouri&#39;s Dennis Gates will hire Dickey Nutt as an assistant coach. <br><br>Nutt and Gates have worked together previously at both Cleveland State and Florida State.</p>&mdash; Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1514613768004595725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dlphg9 04-14-2022 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 16245473)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Missouri&#39;s Dennis Gates will hire Dickey Nutt as an assistant coach. <br><br>Nutt and Gates have worked together previously at both Cleveland State and Florida State.</p>&mdash; Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1514613768004595725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is Dickey Nutt (holy shit this name is awesome) a good hire?

BryanBusby 04-14-2022 09:20 AM

Nutting for Dickey!

OKchiefs 04-14-2022 09:30 AM

Houston Nutt's brother

KChiefs1 04-14-2022 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16233586)
Scheduling update:

The defending NCAA champions will be visiting Columbia next year.


The Adidas Chickensquawks!


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tredadda 04-14-2022 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16233586)
Scheduling update:

The defending NCAA champions will be visiting Columbia next year.

Ok

CoMoChief 04-14-2022 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16246574)
The Adidas Chickensquawks!


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Hey, that's National Champion Adidas Chickensquawks!

Get it right, scumbag!

dlphg9 04-14-2022 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 16246607)
Hey, that's National Champion Adidas Chickensquawks!

Get it right, scumbag!

I'd love to be them right now. Not gonna lie. No matter how I got there. I'm not to petty to admit it or act like I wouldn't be thrilled to be in that position.

MahomesKnows 04-14-2022 06:46 PM

Serious question: if you're last name is Nutt, how on Earth could you even consider calling your kid Dickey? The surname is punishment enough. No need to pour salt in the wound.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-14-2022 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesKnows (Post 16246686)
Serious question: if you're last name is Nutt, how on Earth could you even consider calling your kid Dickey? The surname is punishment enough. No need to pour salt in the wound.

Not only that, they named his other brother Buster and named his two sisters Ima and Ura.

Prison Bitch 04-14-2022 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesKnows (Post 16246686)
Serious question: if you're last name is Nutt, how on Earth could you even consider calling your kid Dickey? The surname is punishment enough. No need to pour salt in the wound.


Quit being so juvenile.

Let’s get back to hoops. What is Nutt’s plan to cover Dick at KU? I predict a cover-1 and preventing him from taking it hard to the hole

Pepe Silvia 04-15-2022 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16246681)
I'd love to be them right now. Not gonna lie. No matter how I got there. I'm not to petty to admit it or act like I wouldn't be thrilled to be in that position.

Yeah but they’ve been around for 100,000 years, they should have 15 titles by now.

Captain Obvious 04-15-2022 11:24 AM

I like the direction that Gates is headed. East.

duncan_idaho 04-15-2022 11:39 AM

PG Sean East committed to Mizzou today. That's a nice grab. He and Diarra are a pair of really good pulls from JUCO who I think can translate immediately to SEC play.

So far, those are the big-ticket items, along with bringing Shaw back into the fold. They've added a couple of mid-major guys on the wing, too, but nothing too crazy/special. I like the direction it's headed, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-15-2022 11:44 AM

He's doing a great job on the trail.

DJ's left nut 04-15-2022 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16247722)
PG Sean East committed to Mizzou today. That's a nice grab. He and Diarra are a pair of really good pulls from JUCO who I think can translate immediately to SEC play.

So far, those are the big-ticket items, along with bringing Shaw back into the fold. They've added a couple of mid-major guys on the wing, too, but nothing too crazy/special. I like the direction it's headed, though.

East went from being something of an intriguing idea to almost a must-have over the last few weeks.

Things were gonna be pretty rough without him as there's just not another true PG on the roster.

duncan_idaho 04-15-2022 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16247954)
East went from being something of an intriguing idea to almost a must-have over the last few weeks.

Things were gonna be pretty rough without him as there's just not another true PG on the roster.

Considering they had zero when Gates inherited the roster, it's an improvement.

Mizzou didn't keep Brazile. That's on NIL money and what Arkansas fans are throwing around. Homey was out for sure if Mizzou kept CuonzNO. He at least waited with Gates to see if they would match the money Arkie threw at him (reportedly 500k according to my guy who's connected to Mizzou's biggest hoops booster).

You're pretty down on this hire. What did you want to see them do? Beyond Sean Miller, I don't know what there is to be super disappointed about (and that was never happening).

I look at the intake as two really good JUCOs who upgrade the roster at black hole spots (East and Diarra) and a couple of useful transfer guards in Gholston and Gomillion who are, IMO, at least legitimate college players at this point (Unlike Brookshire and Wilmore).

dlphg9 04-15-2022 04:01 PM

What about Noah Carter? He any good?

dlphg9 04-17-2022 07:02 PM

Sean East is a pretty damn good get isnt he? This is a great sign that he can pull in these guys. Reminds me of what Drink did his first year here.

duncan_idaho 04-17-2022 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16248224)
What about Noah Carter? He any good?


I think he’s a role player, but he’s a legit D1 player unlike Wilmore. So that’s good.

Not super athletic or big, but skilled and tough and some versatility.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-18-2022 09:25 AM

What is the realistic goal for wins?

15?

DJ's left nut 04-18-2022 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16250738)
What is the realistic goal for wins?

15?

Given how soft some of these non-con matchups can be, I really think 17 is a makeable target mark.

Though that may be overly ambitious given the state of the program at present. It's going to take some adjustment for these additions to get up to Power 5 sort of speed.

But some of these games they were losing against inferior mid-major competition last season should be games they win pretty easily given that even the more 'raw' kids they added out of the Horizon League and JUCO have been playing competition at/near that level.

dlphg9 05-08-2022 02:43 PM

Close to getting a 7'5" guy from WKU.

dlphg9 05-08-2022 02:45 PM

Average 8.2 pts, 7.6 rebounds, and 4.6 blocks per game. That's a lot of ****ing blocks lol

Mizzou_8541 05-08-2022 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16286750)
Average 8.2 pts, 7.6 rebounds, and 4.6 blocks per game. That's a lot of ****ing blocks lol

Dude can run the floor too. I’ll try to find his video that shows him blocking on one end, outrunning everyone and dunking on the other end.

dlphg9 05-08-2022 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 16286796)
Dude can run the floor too. I’ll try to find his video that shows him blocking on one end, outrunning everyone and dunking on the other end.

A 7'5" guy that's like a legit athlete is pretty impressive.

KChiefs1 05-08-2022 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 16286796)
Dude can run the floor too. I’ll try to find his video that shows him blocking on one end, outrunning everyone and dunking on the other end.


https://twitter.com/edemirnba/status...xmYTpiuQN6MyQw


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gblowfish 05-08-2022 08:45 PM

Just give me a team that can manage to beat UMKC and I'll call that progress.

dlphg9 05-22-2022 10:18 AM

Can't believe this hasn't been updated yet! Mizzou gets JUCO player of the year Sean East. Really really like what coach Green has done so far!

dlphg9 05-22-2022 10:18 AM

Also we didn't get that big mofo. He went back to WKU.

Prison Bitch 05-22-2022 12:13 PM

Surprised they took a well traveled JUCO guy, given how strong Mizzou academics are

dlphg9 05-25-2022 10:16 AM

So how good is Sean East supposed to be? Can anyone give me a list of all the players that have committed to Mizzou since the coaching change? I can't seem to find anything.

DJ's left nut 05-25-2022 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16307313)
So how good is Sean East supposed to be? Can anyone give me a list of all the players that have committed to Mizzou since the coaching change? I can't seem to find anything.

RockMNation breaks it all down pretty well across the website but here's the most recent full update I can find from them:

https://www.rockmnation.com/2022/4/2...l-full-for-now

They haven't done anything since then that I can recall. Losing out on Jamarion Sharp probably locked down the roster as he was a potential impact big that they really could've used. I don't see an obvious alternative still out there that Mizzou seems to be pursuing.

I think they're still short on shooting and don't understand someone like Honor at all, but I guess backup PG has value. I just don't see any upside there at all. In the end, when you cycle through 9 of your 12 players (and one of those 12 is just there to keep his brother from leaving), you're gonna have some roster chaff here and there.

I really thought they had Sharp, though. That one kinda sucks. I think he gets them near 18-19 wins. Without him I think they're looking at 14-15. But it's year 1 so we'll see how it goes.

ChiefsCountry 05-25-2022 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16307313)
So how good is Sean East supposed to be?

He sucked at Bradley. I was shocked when he ended up #1 JUCO recruit.

DJ's left nut 05-25-2022 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16307579)
He sucked at Bradley. I was shocked when he ended up #1 JUCO recruit.

Yeah, I'm not sure I buy into the hype either.

But he's essentially the starting PG by default so all I can do is hope for the best.

ChiefsCountry 06-07-2022 03:10 PM

Your best player for next season just arrived via Springfield.

dlphg9 06-07-2022 08:24 PM

Damn huge get in Mosely. This team has come together really nice. Seems like we have some fun good recruiters at MU in Drink and Gates.

duncan_idaho 06-08-2022 07:25 AM

Mosley is a big add. Athletic scoring wings traditionally do well in this system.

If Diarra can play good minutes right away, this could be a fun team.

Diarra/Kobe Brown/Mosley/Hodge/East would be my first guess at a starting 5.


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