Alex Smith is "the best in the league"
 

BY RANDY COVITZ
The Kansas City Star

There’s little question any success the Chiefs have this season hinges on how well quarterback Alex Smith performs.

The Chiefs paid a hefty price in acquiring Smith from San Francisco for a second-round pick in this year’s NFL Draft and a conditional second- or third-round pick in 2014.

Smith led San Francisco to the NFC championship game in 2011 and started the first nine games of the 49ers’ Super Bowl run a year ago, and Chiefs offensive coordinator Doug Pederson believes strongly in Smith.

“Ultimately, every team has to have a quarterback,” Pederson said. “I think we have the best in the league.”

The best? Better than Peyton Manning … Tom Brady … Drew Brees … Joe Flacco … Matt Ryan … Eli Manning … Colin Kaepernick … ?

“There are a lot of great ones,” Pederson said, “but over time, Alex has proven he can get it done. He’s a sharp guy, he brings a wealth of knowledge, he’s experienced, he’s a proven winner the last couple of years, and he needs a team to embrace him.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/07/31...#storylink=cpy

And THIS is why you don't smoke crack

Pederson is Maverick?

ROFL

I'm sure he's the best at SOMEthing. Bowling?

da ****? I have never said anything close to that, even im laughing my ass off over here. you have me confused with Mac Chiefs Niners.

must spread rep lol

Give some to FlaChief then it should let ya.

Ya, he really got it done didn't he

And when he says the team, he really means CP

our secret weapon.

It's a great time of year when every GM and coach is excited about every player and some rookie is the best athlete they've ever seen, and you can ignore everything they say.

:facepalm:

Alex Smith, the whole team really, didn't need this pressure point. Sports radio isn't going to forget this comment, and expectations for Alex's individual performance will be raised accordingly. This was a pretty stupid thing to say. No benefit.

he'd better think he's the best in the league, because there won't be much patience (if at all) with him from the fan base. True Fans, the exception of course.

Pederson said, “but over time, Alex has proven he can get it done. He’s a sharp guy, he brings a wealth of knowledge, he’s experienced, he’s a proven winner the last couple of years, and he needs a team to embrace him.”

This is the only part that really made sense to me. Well, the very last line.

Alex Smith does need a team, and a front office to embrace him. They never really did that in San Francisco. It has been pointed out many times that Jim Harbaugh tried several times to replace him. Peyton Manning, letting him dangle like a fish on a hook during free agency, all the while, saying and doing the right things, letting Alex accept his coach of the year award, Alex Smith was his caddy at a Golf tournament, visiting Alex Smiths wife when she gave birth, but truthfully, he never was Jim's guy.

I am not saying that him being embraced by the organization is going to make Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers. But maybe he could be Matt Schaub.

But that is twice now. First, Andy Reid saying he was going to get Alex Smith into the hall of fame, and now Doug Pedersen, saying hes the best in the league. Best at what? I have no idea.......Picking his nose? Putting on his helmet? Dominoes? Spades? Tying his shoes?

But hes the best at something.

I was wondering if other teams did shit like this or this is the only one.

"I have two words for you..."

Oh just STFU already

Hope springs eternal in July.

That isn't going to affect Alex Smith in the least. For all the bad shit that he does on the field, he is the ultimate professional. He isn't going to let what Clay says bother him, he wont let what his coaches bother him. At the end of the day, Alex Smith knows that its a business. That wont faze him in the least.

Jim Harbaugh called Alex Smith elite, and Greg Roman called Alex Smith a master of the playbook. Never affected him. This wont bother him at all.

Why? Discussing the thread topic in depth isn't a good reason to post? Did I gargle too much on Alex Smiths balls in that post for you?

Don't like it, don't read it.......Its the truth.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

If he was elite, we'd win the West.

That may come back to haunt you.

If he was elite he wouldn't have been benched...

Where's the truefan.gif when you need it?

Think about what you said. Now, go back, and slap yourself. There aren't a whole lot of qbs right now, in the NFL that you would say you would take today over Kaepernick. And I hate the guys guts. Hes that good though.

Today, over Kaepernick, I would take Andrew Luck, and Aaron Rodgers. That's it. Not Brees, hes old, not Brady, not Manning. Kaepernick is that special as a qb, and his future is that bright.

C'mon. All of the great ones get sat for one game for a concussion and then accordingly lose their job to a 2nd year gimmick QB.

And, all of the great ones can be had for a 2nd rounder and a conditional 2nd/3rd.

Chiefs coaches are just as ****ing stupid as the fanbase it appears.

Believe me, I didn't

LMAO. I agree the dude has a bright future and all of that; but let's see if he can do it two seasons in a row before throwing him ahead of Brees and Brady.

Jesus.

ROFL That gimmick, is becoming the trend of the league......Its not a gimmick. Its called evolution.

Yeah, I read this in Covitz's story this AM's KC Star and almost fell off the can. I hope this Pederson guy isn't the second coming of Brian Daboll. How could you make a stupid comment like that to the press...and even worse, what if he really BELIEVES that?
Yikes said Zippy....

Montana says Hi.

Dude, im a 49ers fan, I HATE COLIN Kaepernick. There are just some things that he does on a football field, that others cant do. The only qb I would take today, if I had to win ONE game over him, would be Aaron Rodgers. Along with being the most physically gifted qb in football, he competes harder than anyone ive ever seen in my life. He never quits. I agree, he has to prove hes not a fluke, but his work ethic, and physical skills are ridiculous.

You are forcing me to defend a guy I cant stand.........I hate you for this. ROFL

he isn't calling plays. Andy is. You are safe.

That's what they said about the wildcat a few years ago....

Jim tried to advertise Alex as probowl worthy.

Payed-a-Ton
Eli
Rodgers
Brees
Stafford
Brady
Luck
RGIII
Flacco
Ben Ruthlessrapist
Ryan.

You would not prefer 3 HOF QB's that are currently playing over a QB who has started less than 16 games in the NFL?

I think I'm done here.

Good day sir...

Trends come and go. A QB being able to stand in the pocket and make multiple reads won't. If it's evolution then why did you state you'd take two pocket passers ahead of the guy?

Dual threats are great. I wouldn't bitch for one second if we had a Kaep or Cam Newton type on our team. I'd love it. I'd still take a pure pocket passer like Rodgers or Luck because while they can make plays with their legs; they earn their money in the pocket. And they don't stand as much of a chance in having their career cut short.

We'll see how long this evolution lasts. Smart money is on Kaep cutting down his running plays greatly every year he stays in the league. Or he'll be oft injured. He has the skill to be a great pocket passer if he doesn't get his legs cut out from under him too many times and have to retire early. And what good is that?

you would take peyton, a consistent PLAYOFF FAILURE, over Kaepernick who showed the ability to make mistakes in playoff games, and to get his team back into no matter what? I agree, the sample size is small, and you are going to take matt ryan, who has ONE playoff win which by the way, is LESS than Kaepernick in 10 nfl starts over him? You sure? Stafford? Pfff, and you are done? I think we should just let this conversation go shall we?

Whoooooaaaaaaaa.

Aaron Rodgers, and Andrew Luck, aren't pocket passers. Matter of fact, some of their best work, is done outside the pocket. People see Kaep like hes Mike Vick, or like RG3. hes not at all. Go back and look at the Falcons, and Ravens game. They made him a pocket passer, and he killed them for it.

The evolution is that the pure pocket passers, are dying. The more mobile qbs, are becoming the thing in the NFL. Yes, Tom brady is a pocket passer, but the system he is running now, is all about the shot gun, and quick throws. There are far more mobile to semi mobile qbs out there right now. And not all of them, like Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, (who extends plays as well as anyone not named ben rapist) and hardly runs. That's my point. Even Andrew Luck, he uses his mobility to extend plays......That's the kind of qb I WANT.

Back to the subject at hand.

Alex Smith ****ing sucks and is nowhere near the best at anything. Ever. He's solidly average and the definition of vanilla. Woo-****ing-hoo.

Our OC should abstain from making these sort of moronic statements unless there's a remote possibility the player is actually the best at what they do.
See: Jamaal Charles.

Face palm. I know, I remember it. He called him elite as well.

Jamaal is better than Adrian Peterson?

First of all KC will never have a QB under 28 years old. It's like they avoid it at all costs.

LMAO

I'm done here.

fair point......

No, but at least there are legitimate points that could be made in that argument...

True or false. Aaron Rodgers is the best passer in the NFL on the run?

No. But there is a remote possibility that he could be considered the best at his position. It's a far, far, far more narrow gap between AP and JC; than Rodgers and Alex Smith.

Read the post again if you like.

Maybe not, but they're pretty equal

Good lord, Dude. Stafford? The guy that's 1-23 against teams with a .500 record or greater? Ryan, the perennial playoff loser? Old Ben? Peyton?

Kaepernick is a freak of nature. The dude was working out with speed coaches the week after his Super Bowl loss. He can run for a 50 yard TD, untouched, or throw for a 50 yard TD. He took his team to the Super Bowl with less than a dozen starts and almost won it.

Barring catastrophic injury, the guy will be an Elite QB for the next decade.

Jamaal is the All Time leader in YPC.

You cant make an argument for a guy that owns the all time playoff single game rushing record in nfl history, or the guy who owns the biggest NFCCG comeback of all time as a qb that someone would like to have right now today?

I saw the name of RG3, on your list, I saw Andrew Luck, but not Kaepernick? Im very interested to know why you would take RG3 over him. RG3, there is a lot of talk on this board about Alex Smith being fragile, he missed games from a concussion, and was ultimately lost in the playoffs to a acl tear, his second one, hes also shorter, and smaller than Kaepernick.

I don't know how alex smith got brought into this conversation. Im talking about Kaepernick. Alex Smith shouldn't be anywhere near that conversation. Keep him in the Jay Cutler, Matt Stafford end of the cess pool.

I'm not talking about running behind the line of scrimmage and passing. That's just a QB that's mobile and can extend plays. Rapist does that as well. The vast majority of their passes are from the pocket.

Meh. I think Jamaal has more overall ability because of his ability to catch the ball. Adrian Peterson is probably the better runner, but as far as all around ability, I love Charles.

All I have to say is talk is cheap.

Alex Smith will have his chance to produce on the field, count on it.

I hope he doesn't read or believe this 'trying to sell tickets' fluff.

Well, then we need to clear up what we think is a pocket passer. You say pocket passer, I think Peyton, Tom Brady, matt schaub.

I think of Kaep, as more in line with Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Ben. I don't consider them pocket passers.

Because the ****ing article in the OP is about Alex Smith. I was referencing that article.

Jesus.

I stated Alex Smith lost his job after sitting one game to a gimmick QB(talented, albeit) and that wouldn't happen to the best QB in the league. As our reeruned OC stated. Then came the Kaep talk.

Feel free to go back and read our exchanges again if you like. They're all laid out and stuff.

Love that dude, stoic as ****.

At least someone knew he was on tv.

Would have been a better .gif if he maniacally gunned down the group of Camaro drivin', Alex Smith masturbating, Right Tackle loving true fans in front of him.

Kaep and Russell Wilson are in the same ballpark along with Newton, Vick.

Rodgers is on his own planet with what he can do, most accurate passer in the league and has wheels, cannon arm. Unfair.

Big Ben and Schaub feel very similar to me.

Brady and Peyton are throwbacks to the past.

Yes, but the point is, that Alex Smith losing his job to a guy he was going to lose his job to anyway, is nothing to be ashamed of when the guy is essentially one of the top 5 YOUNG qbs in football, and the coaches hand picked QB. Its not like at the time that Alex Smith got hurt, he was playing badly, in fact at the moment of getting hurt, he was playing the best football of ANYONE in the league. The stats back that up. His last 5 quarters of football the guy was 25-27, 4 tds, and no picks. Let that sink in for a second. Kaep, one, is that much better of a qb than Alex Smith, and two, he was Jims guy from the get go, even before he ever had talked to Alex Smith, his mind was made up on Kaep.......

This is a non issue.

Give Charles the same amount of carries as AP and I believe Charles would come out on top.

He knows shit when he is fed it

Agreed. The way he uses his mobility to buy time, and then can literally make any throw on the field, is absolutely ridiculous. Love watching him play.

I mean, Eric Fisher was going to be the pick. We couldn't really trade out of it, and this draft sucked ass anyway in terms of premium players (especially QB). This is exactly what that guy is thinking.

Rapist can extend plays with his feet and is impossible to bring down. I see him closer to Rodgers than Schaub in terms of how he plays. Although Rodgers is clearly a better QB; I'd be very, very content with the Rapist on the Chiefs.

at least it wasn't joeckell.

just hide your women. ROFL

Same here.

Easily the best QB imo, he will probably get 2 more Superbowls before it is over for him.

Depends. They have to run the ball more, and they have to sure up that defense. There is literally only so much he can do to over come all the defenses mistakes.....

What is he 29, going on 30? Easily entering his 'prime' in terms of the mental aspect of the game. He has 5 years at least to get 2 more. Should be doable.

I love watching him play, not his commercials though.

No. Stop with the commericals. Just keep chucking the ball. Yeah, hes a few months older than Alex. Them winning to me, has absolutely nothing to do with the offense other than running the ball. They drafted two really good rbs in Lacy, and Franklin, they have to take some pressure off Aaron, and off the Defense. Running the ball, will help that defense out. It is a very young YOUNG YOUNNNNNNGGGG, defense right now......Remember, Woodson is gone, Desmond Bishop is gone......

No. Vick isn't nearly as accurate with the ball as Kaepernick or Newton. Russell Wilson averaged about 200 yards per game passing, which doesn't put him in the same category as those QB's or RGIII. He may get there but he may not.

What? When has Matt Schaub EVER put his team on his back and willed them down the field 80 yards or more for a winning touchdown in a game that mattered?

Do you watch NFL football? Have you ever watched the Steelers?

Past what? Which QB's in the "past" were 6'5, 235 pounds, won or appeared in multiple Super Bowls, and threw for 4,000 yards or more repeatedly?

I'm saying as a player Jamal Charles is super talented and accomplished. Easily a top 5 HB in the NFL.

Comparing Smith to any top 5 QB is just silly.

We're comparing individual players here - not teams. I don't want to hear about playoff wins. Hell, Sanchez has more playoff wins than Smith but he's one of the worst starting (?) QB's in the league...

sad post makes me sad


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