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TribalElder 06-10-2021 07:15 AM

Kyle Long may miss training camp with leg injury
 
Kyle Long‘s comeback effort has hit a snag.

NFL Media reports that Long suffered a leg injury that could keep him out through training camp. Initial thoughts were that it would keep him out for the season, but the hope is that Long will be able to return to action before the start of the regular season.

Long did not play in 2020 after missing 34 games over his final four years with the Bears due to injury, but signed with the Chiefs as part of their offensive line overhaul this offseason.

It looked like Long would be competing for the right guard spot during camp. Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, who is also returning from sitting out the 2020 season, Andrew Wylie and sixth-round pick Trey Smith may now make up the group vying for that spot.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...th-leg-injury/

KCUnited 06-10-2021 07:17 AM

Guy makes Sammy Watkins look like Cal Ripken Jr

tyecopeland 06-10-2021 07:20 AM

Glad we made it a few weeks without needing to use our newfound depth at ol.

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 07:21 AM

alright. Well, it was worth a shot.

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 07:22 AM

So, LDT, Smith, Blythe, Alegretti in competetion for RG. Niang and Remmers at RT.

RealSNR 06-10-2021 07:23 AM

I honestly wasn't counting on him anyway.

AdolfOliverBush 06-10-2021 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15703381)
Guy makes Sammy Watkins look like Cal Ripken Jr

LMAO

He makes Mr. Glass look like Wolverine.

scho63 06-10-2021 07:25 AM

Broke dick being a broke dick.

What a shock.

Sofa King 06-10-2021 07:28 AM

Well, ****. Guess it's better now than right away to start the season. Hopefully that turd LDT doesn't win the spot. Trey Smith FTW.

smithandrew051 06-10-2021 07:28 AM

Didn’t win the lottery with this ticket. It happens. No real surprise.

morphius 06-10-2021 07:29 AM

Have to feel for the guy, put in all that effort, have the talent, and your body just can't do it.

Luckily for the Chiefs it was early, so gives more gel opportunity for the guys that might stay healthy.

RunKC 06-10-2021 07:30 AM

The guy is a broke dick that can’t be counted on for anything.

Bl00dyBizkitz 06-10-2021 07:30 AM

Better now than mid season i guess. Ah well.

-King- 06-10-2021 07:31 AM

No way?

Wisconsin_Chief 06-10-2021 07:38 AM

Just plug Trey Smith in and don't worry about the position for the next 15 years.

Long can be a reserve if/when he comes back. Counting on him to be a starter is obviously a stretch and the last thing I want is guys cycling in and out of the lineup again. Just put the young mauler in there and don't look back.

And I swear to God, if I read reports that Wylie is taking the first team snaps at that spot now I will flip out.

Skyy God 06-10-2021 07:39 AM

Literally posted 4 days ago that Smith would win the starting RG spot if/when Long is injured.

Guy is done.

louie aguiar 06-10-2021 07:44 AM

This is why we have depth. Plug LDT in as your starting RG.

Wisconsin_Chief 06-10-2021 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15703407)
Literally posted 4 days ago that Smith would win the starting RG spot if/when Long is injured.

Guy is done.

Just have to hope Andy's obsession with Andrew Wylie doesn't stand in the way of that scenario being allowed to happen.

RunKC 06-10-2021 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15703407)
Literally posted 4 days ago that Smith would win the starting RG spot if/when Long is injured.

Guy is done.

I just don’t see Andy doing that to start the year and I really want it to happen. That would be 2 rookies starting right next to each other, maybe 3 if Niang wins the RT job.

I think they’ll start Blythe or LDT this year

tmax63 06-10-2021 07:46 AM

Doc Larry or Smith. Neither is a bad option especially compared to last year.

Dunerdr 06-10-2021 07:54 AM

Good thing we have 9 more guards. Tapping into them early!

BigCatDaddy 06-10-2021 08:01 AM

With Remmers at RT instead of Niang I don't feel as nervous about 2 rookies at C/RG if they want to go that route.

wazu 06-10-2021 08:03 AM

Glad to hear he’ll be back in time to suffer another season ending injury during week one warm-ups.

oldman 06-10-2021 08:07 AM

I've been wary of annointing Long as the starter at RG since his signing. He was a cheap option to provide depth at G/T all along. I believe LDT will come back and be OK. Let's see what the staff comes up with during TC.

Dante84 06-10-2021 08:07 AM

He fractured his kneecap. Jesus

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15703406)
Just plug Trey Smith in and don't worry about the position for the next 15 years.

Long can be a reserve if/when he comes back. Counting on him to be a starter is obviously a stretch and the last thing I want is guys cycling in and out of the lineup again. Just put the young mauler in there and don't look back.

And I swear to God, if I read reports that Wylie is taking the first team snaps at that spot now I will flip out.

while I have high hopes for Smith I'd rather not have the entire right side of the line from Center over be all rookies.

scho63 06-10-2021 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15703412)
Just have to hope Andy's obsession with Andrew Wylie doesn't stand in the way of that scenario being allowed to happen.

Wylie is yesterday's news. :shake:

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15703427)
With Remmers at RT instead of Niang I don't feel as nervous about 2 rookies at C/RG if they want to go that route.

If Niang can't beat out Remmers then he's a lost cause.

Remmers was barely serviceable. He's got 30" arms, for ****ssake.

LDT would have the inside track to RG, and that's fine, honestly. If the Canadian doc is our worst starter, it's a pretty damned good line.

O.city 06-10-2021 08:10 AM

They may be rookies but they're pretty highly touted. Play them. Let them learn and bring it along slowly.

AdolfOliverBush 06-10-2021 08:12 AM

Humphrey-LDT-Niang

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15703436)
They may be rookies but they're pretty highly touted. Play them. Let them learn and bring it along slowly.

How exactly do you 'bring it along slowly' if you're starting three rookies in a row?

Are you going to tell opposing defenses to please not stunt or run any zone blitzes so as not to confuse our rookie offensive linemen?

No, you start LDT at RG in between Humphrey and Niang so you've got one guy there that's seen it all before.

Tribal Warfare 06-10-2021 08:16 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The belief is Kyle Long suffered a fractured kneecap, per source. Sounds painful (and surely is!) but Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5">https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1402990708424732695?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hoover 06-10-2021 08:17 AM

This could be a blessing in disguise.

All this does is accelerate the development of our rookie guard. Worse case he starts the season on IR or PUP then have him for the second half of the season.

Be thankful the Chiefs addressed the O line throughout the draft.

Dunerdr 06-10-2021 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 15703427)
With Remmers at RT instead of Niang I don't feel as nervous about 2 rookies at C/RG if they want to go that route.

I'd be fine moving Remmers to guard where he started last year and putting Niang next to him.

-King- 06-10-2021 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15703438)
How exactly do you 'bring it along slowly' if you're starting three rookies in a row?

Are you going to tell opposing defenses to please not stunt or run any zone blitzes so as not to confuse our rookie offensive linemen?

No, you start LDT at RG in between Humphrey and Niang so you've got one guy there that's seen it all before.

Start Blythe who was good at guard with the Rams.

Hammock Parties 06-10-2021 08:21 AM

Kyle Not For Long

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 08:21 AM

well, that's a freak thing, a fractured knee-cap.

The good news there is that Long will probably not be a starter, but is still an experienced and talented depth guy. How long he could play before he gets hurt again is a question, but I like his experience off the bench for spot duty. If LDT or Niang had to miss a game, you wouldn't have a drop-off going to Long.

I'd be leery of expecting a full season from him though.

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15703448)
Start Blythe who was good at guard with the Rams.

Sure, if he beats out LDT. I doubt it though, as LDT has a few years in this offense.

But at any rate, you don't want 3 rookies in a row. One missed read and Mahomes gets clobbered. You need at least ONE guy in the middle of that who knows what's going on around him.

BigRedChief 06-10-2021 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15703432)
He fractured his kneecap. Jesus

Yeah we all knew “if healthy” was going to be the key with Long. Luckily we have a backup plan or two.

oldman 06-10-2021 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15703448)
Start Blythe who was good at guard with the Rams.

Blythe was brought in to be a C, not a G. Before we annoint Humphrey as the starter, let's see how TC plays out. I'm not saying Creed won't be the starter come Game 1, let's just not start shuffling guys around just yet.

Wisconsin_Chief 06-10-2021 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15703434)
Wylie is yesterday's news. :shake:

Yeah, I've thought that for the last two seasons.

Then the next thing you know he's starting at RT in the Super Bowl. :doh!:

-King- 06-10-2021 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15703459)
Blythe was brought in to be a C, not a G. Before we annoint Humphrey as the starter, let's see how TC plays out. I'm not saying Creed won't be the starter come Game 1, let's just not start shuffling guys around just yet.

Yeah he was brought in to be center but as soon as we drafted Humphrey in the 3rd round, those plans obviously changed. I don't see how he could be any worse than LDT at RG and the run blocking with him next to Creed, Thuney and Orlando would be insane.

Easy 6 06-10-2021 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15703411)
This is why we have depth. Plug LDT in as your starting RG.

I’d rather just coach the shit outta Niang and Smith, and let that right side learn on the fly

pugsnotdrugs19 06-10-2021 08:43 AM

Really hate it for the guy.

LDT or Smith... I personally hope Smith takes it over.

BigCatDaddy 06-10-2021 08:45 AM

Save him for the playoffs.

O.city 06-10-2021 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15703438)
How exactly do you 'bring it along slowly' if you're starting three rookies in a row?

Are you going to tell opposing defenses to please not stunt or run any zone blitzes so as not to confuse our rookie offensive linemen?

No, you start LDT at RG in between Humphrey and Niang so you've got one guy there that's seen it all before.


Run the ball, play action, get it out quick etc.

Rainbarrel 06-10-2021 08:46 AM

Maybe Long is the injury version of a dream catcher. Eat it blood magic.

ChiefBlueCFC 06-10-2021 08:51 AM

I knew he had retired/took the year off due to injuries but I didn't realize how much game time he had missed the four seasons prior to 2020.

The Franchise 06-10-2021 08:59 AM

MAH GOD!!! THAT’S TREY SMITH’S MUSIC!!!!

Coogs 06-10-2021 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15703433)
while I have high hopes for Smith I'd rather not have the entire right side of the line from Center over be all rookies.

We run shotgun 77% of the time. Mahomes blind side should be no problem with Brown and Thuney protecting it. He would have the whole right side right in his vision the whole time. If something goes wrong once in a while, Mahomes is a magician at improvising. Shouldn't be a huge issue I wouldn't think.

KChiefs1 06-10-2021 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15703432)
He fractured his kneecap. Jesus


Damn

KChiefs1 06-10-2021 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15703443)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The belief is Kyle Long suffered a fractured kneecap, per source. Sounds painful (and surely is!) but Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5">https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5</a></p>— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1402990708424732695?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


https://media3.giphy.com/media/ToMjG...Brhu/giphy.gif

Deberg_1990 06-10-2021 09:22 AM

He will be fine for the playoff drive in December/January. Save him until then.

TEX 06-10-2021 09:22 AM

I'm not surprised at all. This is who Long is. Before he retired, he missed a lot of time the last few years. He was a low risk high reward signing to begin with. That's why we have depth. LDT / Blythe (if he's not starting at Center) can handle it until Smith is ready. Want no part of Wylie

RunKC 06-10-2021 09:28 AM

The guy was literally just in Hawaii with Patrick and Travis playing in Patrick’s charity golf tournament.

Did he get hammered out there and drop something on his knee or some shit?

TribalElder 06-10-2021 09:30 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I did everything I could to prepare to get back for football. Zero regrets. I’ve been getting better everyday and having so much fun with my new team. Focusing on controlling the things I can control. Yesterday was not one of those things! Thanks for the well wishes.</p>&mdash; Kyle (@Ky1eLong) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ky1eLong/status/1403008263344513026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kman34 06-10-2021 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15703436)
They may be rookies but they're pretty highly touted. Play them. Let them learn and bring it along slowly.

This.. Smith and Creed are steals of this draft.. Play these studs...

htismaqe 06-10-2021 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15703538)
I'm not surprised at all. This is who Long is. Before he retired, he missed a lot of time the last few years. He was a low risk high reward signing to begin with. That's why we have depth. LDT / Blythe (if he's not starting at Center) can handle it until Smith is ready. Want no part of Wylie

This.

I didn't want Long because I figured this would happen. Fortunately, they didn't stop with Long and they still have plenty of competition. He can be let go gently so there's no reason to worry about this at all.

Gravedigger 06-10-2021 09:45 AM

Too bad he's not on the Texans, they're done with their pre-season preparation, just waiting on the opener at this point.

Tribal Warfare 06-10-2021 09:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Correction: It&#39;s a lower-leg injury, but not a fractured kneecap. The timeline remains the same. Kyle Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE">https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1403007310859935752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 06-10-2021 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15703571)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Correction: It&#39;s a lower-leg injury, but not a fractured kneecap. The timeline remains the same. Kyle Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE">https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1403007310859935752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Backup. No way he starts with zero reps in TC.

carcosa 06-10-2021 09:49 AM

SHIT!!!!!!! ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15703483)
Run the ball, play action, get it out quick etc.

So you want to change the entire offense?

No thanks.

Kman34 06-10-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15703573)
Backup. No way he starts with zero reps in TC.

I have no problem with him being a quality backup..

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15703509)
We run shotgun 77% of the time. Mahomes blind side should be no problem with Brown and Thuney protecting it. He would have the whole right side right in his vision the whole time. If something goes wrong once in a while, Mahomes is a magician at improvising. Shouldn't be a huge issue I wouldn't think.

Relying on Mahomes to be magic is how we ended up getting our ass kicked in the Super Bowl.

He IS magic, but that should not be your gameplan.

Titty Meat 06-10-2021 10:12 AM

Boy bye

-King- 06-10-2021 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15703573)
Backup. No way he starts with zero reps in TC.

Or cut. We have plenty of depth without him and what good is he for depth if he's almost for sure going to get injured again.

Wallymo 06-10-2021 10:18 AM

There's still a decent chance that Long will get to play his part before the season is done. With a 17 game schedule, plus the playoffs, it's likely someone on the line will need an injury replacement. Maybe multiple folks again. Assuming Long can get back by midseason, he may still end up as a valuable card to be played.

ChiTown 06-10-2021 10:19 AM

I'm good with LDT and Smith battling this out for the starting RG spot. If I'm being totally honest, I never really believed Kyle Long would remain healthy enough to be in the lineup anyway. I just assumed it would happen sometime during the course of the season. smh

htismaqe 06-10-2021 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15703609)
Or cut. We have plenty of depth without him and what good is he for depth if he's almost for sure going to get injured again.

True. They really don't HAVE to do anything, he's on the cheap. So they have a ton of options and they're not really depending on him for anything, so it's still pretty much all upside.

Marcellus 06-10-2021 10:26 AM

He was a long shot to be a major contributor in the end anyway. Let him heal up and come back later in the season for depth if needed.

Cosmos 06-10-2021 10:28 AM

Guy is a fit……on LITR.

> < this close to cutting bait, and moving on.

We have been warned….we have a Watkins on the OL.

TEX 06-10-2021 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15703566)
This.

I didn't want Long because I figured this would happen. Fortunately, they didn't stop with Long and they still have plenty of competition. He can be let go gently so there's no reason to worry about this at all.

Yep. I always figured best case he'd be quality depth anyway. I never had him as a starter. And, if you think about it, he could be the guy who could fill in for a couple games here & there. That might be realistically all he can handle, before he starts breaking down. But, if he can play at a decent level, it's not a bad thing. You're right, him being hurt is a non issue.

srvy 06-10-2021 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15703411)
This is why we have depth. Plug LDT in as your starting RG.

Turdsnif needs to be replaced. I was hoping Long could hold it down till the youngun was ready.

Coogs 06-10-2021 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15703582)
Relying on Mahomes to be magic is how we ended up getting our ass kicked in the Super Bowl.

He IS magic, but that should not be your gameplan.

If these guys are any good, he won't be running for his life. A play here and there? Maybe. All three of those guys have high marks coming out. Not developmental status.

BlackOp 06-10-2021 10:40 AM

Long is cheap veteran depth...this is why KC signed him.

Nothing has changed if he's ready by week one....SB is 6 months away from the season opener.

The Franchise 06-10-2021 10:42 AM

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

TEX 06-10-2021 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15703660)
Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

I doubt Reid goes with 2 rookies side by side. Bet Blythe is in there somewhere.

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15703660)
Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

****ing hope not.

Chris Meck 06-10-2021 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15703660)
Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

Brown-Thuney-Humphrey-LDT-Niang.


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