Todd Haley to be the OC of a high school team
 

Down in Sarasota Florida. Couldn’t happen to a better example of an asshole on how far you can fall when you piss off everyone around you.

https://www.heraldtribune.com/sports...ve-coordinator

Haley, who has a home in the Sarasota area, was the Kansas City Chiefs head coach from 2009-2011, briefly the Browns offensive coordinator and worked for the Bears, Cowboys and Steelers

The Riverview Rams wasted little time finding a replacement for Jared Clark.

And they got a former NFL head coach to do it.

Todd Haley, who served as the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs from 2009 through 2011, will take over as the Rams offensive coordinator, a position held by Clark before he was hired recently as head coach at Cardinal Mooney High.

The 52-year-old Haley last served as the offensive coordinator in 2018 for the Cleveland Browns. But he was fired after a Week 8 loss to his former team, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Haley, who has a home in the area and whose daughter attends Out-of-Door Academy, was introduced to Rams head coach Josh Smithers through former Ram TJ Nutter.

“We were talking and he brought him up and I asked him, ‘You think he’d watch some film?’ ” Smithers said. “So he came over to Riverview late in the season and we watched some film.

“At that point we do what we do. We’re not going to change anything.”

After the season, when Clark’s name became linked to the Mooney job, Smithers reached out to Nutter to gauge Haley’s interest in becoming the Rams offensive coordinator.

“I said, ‘Hey, what do you think?’ And he said, ‘I don’t know, give it a shot.’ Once I knew Jared had the job I just reached out to him, ‘Would you like to coach still?’ ”

Haley took some time to discuss the offer with his family before telling Smithers he’d take the job.

“We’re obviously excited that he wanted to join the staff and hoping we can learn a lot of football from him,” Smithers said.

Haley’s father, Dick Haley, was an NFL cornerback for six years and later served as director of player personnel for the New York Jets and Pittsburgh Steelers.

As a youth, Haley was a ball boy for the Steelers and attended Steeler training camps with his dad. He went on to attend the University of Florida and University of Miami and graduated from the University of North Florida in 1991 with a bachelor’s degree in communication.

His first job in coaching was in 1995 as an assistant with the Jets in their scouting department. He then became the Jets wide receivers coach, a job Haley later held with the Bears and Cowboys before becoming offensive coordinator of the Arizona Cardinals in 2007.

Haley has never coached at the high school level. Smithers said he discussed this with him.

“We talked about the high school game being different than the pro game,” he said. “And he was all fired up, just to get out there and coach football again. He understands these are high school kids who go to school all day and you get them for a couple of hours versus people who do it for a job.

“He told me he’s excited just to teach quarterbacks how to read coverages and receivers how to run better routes.

“And I think that’s where he’s going to be able to excel. His ability to understand defensive coverages and have an answer for everything.”

Smithers also pointed out that Haley, who was unavailable for comment, will be part of a program that has a winning culture already established.

“I told him what we’ve done here at Riverview the last five years, it works and we’ve had success with it,” he said. “I said obviously if there are certain route concepts or things that you just have to have in your arsenal, then you have the freedom but we’re not going to all of a sudden create a new offense.

“We’re going to be spread and up tempo. If he can make us go even faster, than will be even better.

“He’s all in.”

But Smithers realizes any coach, even one with NFL pedigree, can only do so much.

“At the end of the day, our kids will be on the field competing and it doesn’t really matter who’s calling it. If we don’t execute, it’s not going to matter.”

Lol wtf?

I don't hate Haley. He was completely hamstrung by Pioli and Cassel. Dude never had a chance.

This.

I think it's classy that he's going to work with kids at that level. Good for him, good for the kids.

He failed in Pittsburgh and Cleveland too.

At some point, some kid will say to the local newspaper, "This guy played golf. He never played high school football."

It takes a long time to get the Pioli and Cassel cleaned off of you.

How did he fail in Pittsburgh? His offense wasn't the reason they lost in the playoffs in 2017, and that entire team went to shit offensively after he left.

Kind of like how the Chiefs turned into a 2-14 dumpster fire filled with suicide murder AIDS after he left here...

It sounds like he still wants to coach without all the BS that surrounds an NFL job and most likely doesn't need the money either. Good for him.

This is true. Piolistink is the kind of stink that won't wash off with soap and water.

Good for Haley. Definitely wasn't a step down for either party imo. Hopefully he sticks with it.

I couldn't imagine what it must be like for those kids to start learning what he has in his playbook. Learning from a person that has had success in the NFL for the youngsters should bring in more college scouts for them.

Exactly.

And it'll be nice to see what he can do with a stronger quarterback.

Fair enough. But after Pioli broke him. And both of those organizations were crawling with assholes and idiots.

No way of knowing how things might have shaken out had he not had Hitler for a GM and Barney Fife for a QB.

Whatever QB they have at that high school will be better than Cassel and Croyle.

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Holy Mother****ing Hell. How have I not seen this before?

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Yeah, but he was a ****ing ****knuckle. Think about the staff we have now and how they would handle it. You think Reid would grow a ****ing hobo beard and start Palko?

That's one of the greatest GIFs of all time.

I don't think Vince Lombardi could have thrived under Pioli.

Haley's last game as OC in Pittsburgh was the divisional round against Jacksonville where Pittsburgh lost 45-42 after being down 28-7 and they had a 21 point 4th quarter with a team that Randy Finchter can't even get to back into the playoffs.

I wonder if Billay realizes that Pittsburgh hasn't been to the playoffs since Haley left?

Yeah, the $tealer$ are going to be sucking Ratbird ass for the foreseeable future. I like it.

Oh no question. No ****ing question what so ****ing ever.

He still handled it like a ****knuckle.

Always wondered what the backstory was on the Haley part of that. What was he doing there?

Are there really fans of this shit stain on the board? You think Pioli and Cassel made him a bad coach? Aside from the two good years he had as OC in Arizona, what has he really ever done?

Seems like some planet members just relate to his poser ass tough guy act.

Herm Edwards would've handled it better, for sure.

And that's why your rep is in the red.

You gots any antifreeze around your house?

None of that 50/50 cut bullshit, that stuff is for pussies and squares. No, you need the HEET. Do us a favor, and drink the whole bottle.

True.

However he might have went 0 - 16. In fact, they might have found a way to assign a negative win for the first time in the history of the league. He might have actually went -1 - 17

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I don't think Pioli broke him he was an entitled dickhead because of his daddy and he couldnt get along with players. He did the same shit in AZ.

You can't be a shithead coach and work in the NFL. People think BB is, he runs a tight ship but his players love him which I'm guessing means he isn't a total dickhead.

I find myself amused and somewhat satisfied in this fitting achievement.

he said Cassell was the real deal. A star QB. No need to draft a QB. We would win a SB with Matt Cassell at QB.

He was so insecure that he hired a shitty coaching staff or it was the best he could find willing to work with him.

From Wikipedia
For his first coaching staff, Haley hired Joel Collier, Gary Gibbs, Steve Hoffman, Bill Muir, Clancy Pendergast, Pat Perles, and Dedric Ward to unspecified positions on the Chiefs' 2009 coaching staff and retained Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie, Brent Salazar, and Cedric Smith from Herm Edwards' staff.

And he fired Chan Gailey within a few games

You're a dumbass for even posting this.

Haley wanted to sign Matt Hasselbeck in 2011 to give Cassel competition and Pioli wouldn't do it and signed Tyler Palko as "competition".

That was the biggest source of friction between Haley and Pioli. Haley KNEW Cassel was a fraud. And voiced that opinion to Pioli. LOUDLY.

BECAUSE HE WAS COACHING IN THE SUPER BOWL AND DIDNT GET HIRED UNTIL FEBRUARY, YOU DUMB SHIT.

name calling is the last resort of a limited mind. LMAO

bringing your hot takes out of DC to the lounge isn’t going to make Haley a good NFL Coach.

Making shit up and telling outright lies is what people do when they don't know what the **** they're talking about.

You've got me confused with someone else, because I actually remember what happened. Unlike you, who goes from making shit up to having zero contextual understanding of why Haley hired a shitty first staff in the middle of ****ing February...

If you don't want people to call you a dumbshit, then quit being a ****ing dumbshit.

I agree it wasn’t all Haley’s fault, Pioli deserves the scourge too. But, Haley’s inability to get along with his players. His hard headed my way or the highway approach to players when he had never won anything was a huge mistake, his alone mistake.

It’s just my opinion that Haley sucked as an NFL coach. His time as the Chiefs head coach was a disaster. We as fans suffered under his rein.

Im pretty sure Big Ben had his best statistical year with Haley.

I dont think he failed in Pittsburgh.

SNAP The ****ING BALL

Pretty much the same except when I drove all the way to Lambaeu and he played Tyler Palko the entire preseason game out of spite to Pioli. I was pretty pissed.

what a neat thing for those kids. Good on Todd.

How the **** did you not see that gif before?


Mind = Blown
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That was during one of Jamaal Charles patented highlight reel runs

Those poor kids...

Todd Haley would let GBlowfish know that his team is number one no matter what the record is.

Derrick Johnson was a chronic underachiever until Haley benched him and challenged his manhood.

Dwayne Bowe was shit before and after Haley.

Haley screamed Matt Cassel to 27 TD throws and 7 INTs, which actually resembles an NFL QB on paper...

Haley won the division in 2010 and had the team in contention to win in 2011 when he was fired. It was a "disaster" because of Pioli. The 2012 season, the season after Haley left, is the worst season in Chiefs history.

Looking at it in context, one understands that Haley actually made chicken salad out of total chickenshit, and it looks as if his heavy handed "my way or the highway" was what was needed at the time. Romeo "Play Good Football" Crennell won exactly 3 games with the same team after he took over.

He did a few good things like you mentioned. But overall he was a coordinator who got promoted beyond his capabilities.

Would he have done better with a better GM and more talent? Most likely. But he’s still not that great a head coach. There’s a reason he never got hired as a head coach again. He’s mediocre.

Of course he would've been better with a real GM an more talent. He inherited a 2-14 dumpster fire and improved the team immediately. No one's saying he was going to the HOF. But the 2 1/2 years under Haley are far from the "disaster" that others try to make it.

The real disaster was Pioli, and that was proven after Haley left.

Haley went 4-12. Pioli gave him some real coordinators in 2010 (instead of just letting Todd do all the work himself) and then when Weis left, the Chiefs were losers again.

Haley did some good things. It's hard NOT to do some good things when you're a head coach in this league-- you have too much power. But compared to the average NFL coach, Haley was dogshit. Let's please not pretend he was some genius held back by the likes of Pioli. Haley is a petulant douchetard. He deserves no praise, no excuses, and no what ifs.

This is an appropriate fate for him. It's where he belongs. Hell.

No one is pretending.anything. I just remember how the entire team went to shit after Haley left. It was what it was.

I think it’s awesome, given the rumors about Haley’s sexual kinks, that a guy named TJ Nutter is referenced in the story. That’s a 1980s porn star name if I’ve ever heard one.

It wasn't like Haley had the team humming along, got fired, and then there was chaos. Haley had chaos built in to the Chiefs. Romeo just finished them off.

No, Haley didn't choose Cassel. But he sure as shit chose Tyler Palko. He didn't choose Tyson Jackson, but he sure as shit chose that one miserable vet asshole WR to start the Baltimore playoff game.

The list goes on and on. Reid apparently had a falling out with Dorsey, but we didn't hear shit about it until after Dorsey was fired. That's because Reid is a responsible leader. Haley is a ****ing child.

Are you Todd Haley?

He flipped off my good buddy George Blowfish.

He's dead to me.

Haley was a bad head coach. Theres wasn't a lot of talent and he had a terrible gm but it doesnt change the previous fact.

Also, hes a pretty good offensive coordinator.

But in both roles he seems to get upset when people dont do exactly what hes told them to do. He always seemed to lose it on big ben of he changed the play at the line or did something that wasn't drawn up. I cant imagine that going real well at a high school

Haley is a bad coach ant a total douchetard. I wouldn't piss on him to put him out if he was on fire.

AND...

He flipped off George Blowfish.

He's dead to me.

Haley was not as bad as his critics want him to be. He clearly can't mentally handle even a shred of toxicity. But he's been in multiple situations where he got alone well with everyone. He was not a great coach, but he wasn't bad either. I don't blame him for palko. Keep in mind he jumped up and down for Hasselbeck, Dalton, and Kaepernick. That is 100% on Pioli for being so stupid not to bring in a backup who would dare challenge cassel for the starting job. And we fought our ass off. I still remember a game we lost I think against Pittsburgh where our team played so tough that we almost beat then behind Tyler palko. We saw that romeos short lived success was totally about riding the coattails of the tough team haley built.

It's a shame he has maturity issues because he is actually an outstanding coach. Not a great playcaller. But what he's done everywhere... He can coach one hell of a good run blocking OL. He is a hell of a WRs coach. And as much as people rip on his relationship with big Ben, haley did a really great job accomplishing something that wasn't easy. Forcing big Ben to stop freelancing. And everywhere he's gone players play really tough for him (then unsurprisingly look soft as dough when he leaves).

I wouldn't have minded seeing him with a less toxic front office. But yeah, his immaturity dealing with toxic shit makes him a complete liability which is why he will likely never coach in the NFL again.

Its funny how we remember the same thing completely differently. Haley was 5-8 when he was fired. Considering 8-8 was the best Haley could have done, I wouldnt exactly call that 'in contention'...as I recall, it seemed to me he lost the team and started tanking on purpose just to get fired and then all the nonsense about bugged phones, etc.

He wanted out...I get that, but why not just leave/resign instead of ****ing with the team.

But hey...remember him fondly if you want.

edit...forgot to comment on the OP....

Being demoted from NFL to high school football says maybe the guy doesnt play well with others...

It should be fun to see him screaming “SNAP THE ****ING BALL” at a 16 year old kid named Braden.

Because the Broncos won the division that year with an 8-8 record, and we beat them in week 17, if we had beaten the Raiders in week 16 we would've had the tiebreaker and would've won the division.

So, I consider that we were in contention because MATH.

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LMAO

Todd Haley is the closest thing to a chiefsplanet member being a headcoach

*at practice*

Run the Iso to the right
uhhh coach there are 3 linebackers assigned to that gap
I DON'T CARE MAKE IT WORK TOUGHEN UP

:LOL:

This explains his weird cult following on here.

"Two games? I could win two games with eleven middle schoolers off the street."

In The Lexicon...a Genious terms a prolific success as a 9-7 season with Gunther and I guess I could add the above, now. Fantastic.

When I read 'contention' I was reading contention to actually win something, like a playoff game...my bad. I didnt realize your aspirations for Haley was a second AFCW title and nothing more. Too bad he lost the team.

I don't buy that he tanked on purpose except for the Jets game where he looked like he had finally given up. Haley gets blamed for throwing palko out there. But keep in mind that the reason palko was #2 is because Pioli refused to put a backup qb on the roster who would dare threaten cassels starting job. Haley did ask for different backups and was denied.

And I don't think 8-8 is the best he could have done. He led a 9-7 team behind shitty Matt Cassel, a qb he didn't want. Our defense and running game during those years were good enough that we could have been decent with a simple qb change.

But yeah, he's earned his way out of the NFL. And he's probably at best an average coach. But I really buy into the idea that our problems were a hell of a lot more about Pioli than they were haley.

I consider Pioli and Haley to be birds of a feather.

For those that put the blame more on Pioli, I would counter that Haley came into a crappy situation and helped make it worse.

I wouldn't wish either one of those guys on any organization.

Praise Jesus that we moved on from those two.

Haley's 2010 team was 10-6.

HOW DO YOU FIGURE??
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LMAO

Haley had 10-6 in 2010 and was still mathematically in contention for the division in 2011.

In 2012, after Haley left, 2-14 murder suicide dumpster fire with AIDS.

Looks like Haley actually helped keep the whole thing almost respectable. After he left, the wheels flew off.

as long as the kid can "snap the effing ball", he should be fine

If the internet can be trusted Florida is a prime old person swing party landing spot.



Haley living his own dream

GBlowfish sends his regards.....

Since you finally admitted to being wrong about Andy Reid, how about you ho ahead and admit to being wrong about haley. And just because the dumbass gm hired someone even worse right after him doesnt make him a good coach.

The high school is probably close to one of his favorite golf courses.

Because I'm just dealing with facts. That dummy tried to claim that Haley "made a bad situation worse", when all signs point to him being the one holding the whole thing together.

Whoever said that Haley has proven to coach up people to be tough and scrappy, only to see them get soft after he leaves is correct. We've seen it in Dallas, Arizona, KC, and Pittsburgh.

And really, Cleveland kind of fell off the cliff this year, too...

LMAO

Marty lost the team, Gunther lost the team, Haley lost the team, Crennel never had the team...regardless the front office, you lose the team, it's over as it should be.

I dont absolve Pioli of anything, I just dont remember anything good about those seasons with or without Haley.

Two weeks ago the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, yet here we are, all bunged up over shit Todd Haley did 10 years ago.

I love this place. LMAO

It is officially the offseason.

Haley coached the most depressing era of Chiefs football since Frank Gansz so