Fruit Juice....just as bad for you as soda.
Frankly this is the least surprising result in the history of science. Shocker...what's bad for you from obesity/diabetes is liquid calories that don't make you feel full. The fact that it's natural doesn't make it any better.
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Prison Bitch wants this on a Sports Illustrated cover
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Well, ****.
So much for cutting back on soda for OJ and Apple juice. |
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Trying to cut calories for dietary....not so much....liquid calories are liquid calories(especially liquid simple sugars). What makes them the debbil is that they're so easy to drink a lot and not realize it(because you don't get the 'full' sensation like you do with solid foods). |
One major difference is that most people aren't guzzling down 60 (or more) fl.oz.s of fruit juice like soda junkies do with their soda.
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I guess I will stick with beer.
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Lol @ title of this thread. Ridiculous on so many levels.
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And this is shocking news...
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Don't curr, loves me some high fructose corn syrup in me fruit juices.
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JFC what can I have that is ok any more? Now no OJ in AM **** that.
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Contains Real Fruit Juice!
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I make my own juice with a blender and the whole fruit. I pretty much drink my fruit.
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How many pieces of fruit does it take to make a glass of juice? Would people normally eat the same number of pieces of fruit in one sitting or as quickly as drinking a glass of juice? Probably not...just think how much more effort is spent eating it. The nature of fruit slows down consumption...juice doesn't. |
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Remember the majority of juices you see on the shelves are actually 80-90% apple/grape juice(whichever is cheaper). Not usually the more exotic juices they advertise. If in doubt look at the ingredients list and see which juice is first. In our obesity fearing society we like to say that soda is bad but juice is good, the simple reality is it isn't. Certain locales like to talk about taxes on sugary drinks as if it's some panacea to the obesity crisis, but they always make exceptions for '100% fruit juices'. The problem is...and entirely expected...sugar from fruit juice is no different than sugar from soda when it comes to obesity. You could make every soda drinker a fruit juice drinker and it wouldn't effect obesity. Hell I have 100% confidence that within 6 months of a nationwide soda tax we'd have 100% fruit juice Coke and Pepsi that would taste nearly the same as they do now. The lesson is really the same, liquid sugar calories are bad for obesity/diabetes regardless of the source. Let's not kid ourselves and pretend juice is magically better. |
Only drink 100% juice not from concentrate, absolutely no HFCS.
But so damn expensive. Most often, I make lemonade from squeezed lemon and sugar, then mix it with Lipton brewed tea for Arnold Palmers. |
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OJ is in jail. Where he belongs. |
**** fruit juice anyway.
Get a Vitamix and make smoothies. That thing will pulverize concrete. |
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Oh, and a shit ton of Tazo, Itoen, and Honest Teas. Tazo's Brambleberry is the shizz, it's not even really tea so much. Quote:
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Water is the answer.
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So basically this article is saying that juice is just as bad as soda from a weight loss perspective?
If you're trying to lose weight, you should be drinking nothing but water anyway. |
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the more processed the sugar the worse it is there's a big old thread about it around here were people still argue that sugar is fine |
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Nobody got ****ing fat eating fruit or drinking ****ing juice alone. |
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that shit is terrible for you. that's a perfect example of why I stick my Kool-Aid.
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Fruit Juice....just as bad for you as soda.
I stated this about a month or so ago in the "which is the best juicer to buy". A complete waste of calories and the sugar content is usually sky high. In many cases it costs about $2 to make a single glass of juice with the need for so much fruit. Plus trying to absorb vitamins by drinking them is so inefficient. |
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....I've made a horrible mistake. |
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If I had to pick a favorite, it'd probably Itoen's toasted green tea, called Oi Ocha. It's so definitely tea, but the toasting of the tea leaves makes it different from any other tea you might get. http://images.iherb.com/l/ITO-00139-3.jpg |
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Believe what you want, but avoiding fruit isn't going to make you healthy. |
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When you make juice from fruits you strip out all of that good fiber that delays digestion. What you are left with is a drink full of simple sugars with nothing to slow down absorption. Sugar water is Sugar water whether it came from a fruit or HFCS. Fruit drinks may have some benefits from the vitamins/minerals but they are loaded with sugar. Hell here's a welch's grape juice label. http://www.quitehealthy.com/nutritio...belL439621.gif and here's the v8 label made from vegetables(I know neither is the best product but a decent example). http://411nutrition.files.wordpress....breakdown2.jpg |
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If governments feel like taxing sugary drinks to try to fight obesity fine...but you have to include other high sugar drinks too like fruit juices. The science and frankly the logic is there that anything liquid that is LOADED with simple sugars is going to contribute to excess calorie consumption and insulin resistance. Fruits aren't magical that you can make them into a concentrated juice and you won't get fat no matter how much you drink. Vegetable juices are worlds better than fruit juices because they aren't loaded with all the calories...even though vegetable juice....like fruit juice...is a poor substitute for actually eating the servings of fruits and vegetables you should have. The very processing to make juice(at least on a commercial level) rips out much of the health benefits of the base plant. |
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Shortly thereafter they released the belief that sex sometimes leads to babies.
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So what you are telling me is that if I intake more calories then I output then I get fat right? Thanks for the science there guys. JFC
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This demonization of food and certain food groups is abso****inglutely OUT OF CONTROL. I'll post this again, simply because it needs to be read. Even though it's mainly focused on HFCS, there's a lot of good info about other sugars and carbohydrates, as well. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/88/6/1716S.full There is room in a person's diet for anything they want to have, whether that's soda, ice cream, fruit juice, pixie sticks or orange marmalade. It's all about portion control and understanding how these foods fit in to the larger picture of one's diet. I have serious issues with how this article/thread is worded because it assumes that soda is inherently bad for you and if fruit juice is as bad as soda, then it's inherently bad, too. That's just not true. Overconsumption is bad. That's the devil. It's not the X food/drink. |
I'm constantly surprised by whatever label I read out of boredom when getting a glass of juice. I often end up wondering "was that really good for me" after slamming it like it's air and getting another glass because the first one did nothing for me.
Simple calorie math says it's not, but until recently I wasn't get much fruit any other way.:shrug: |
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Fatasses who sit on their fat asses all day are fat because of sugar and fruit juice. /kooks
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Did they test purple drink?
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Fat people love them some sugar!
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Different types of calories are metabolized differently. Sugar intake impacts your blood sugar, given enough time can cause insulin resistance, which is the fast track to obesity. Limiting the proportion of your sugar and carb intake absolutely has an effect on your health, even with calories being equal. |
BAN FRUIT JUICE!
Frankly the headline is dangerously misleading. Fruit juice is not an acid that eats away at your bones and imbalances the Ph of your entire body. Just because it has a lot of sugar does NOT mean it's 'just as bad for you' as flavored battery acid. The 'study' gives no outlines of any controls done... was this thing funded by Pepsi? |
Obviously, nobody should drink copious amounts of sugar, but the thread title is really an obscene generalization. Soda has no redeeming qualities, while fruit juice has many beneficial ingredients.
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If you look hard enough, at some point you'll find that everything is bad for you. Drinking too much water can be fatal, for crying out loud.
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True...to much of anything is bad for you.
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You can get calories from different things, like carbs, proteins, fat, etc. And each of those have different levels of Calories per gram, and the body uses each differently. But there aren't different types of calories. The "Calories in, Calories out" is a really simplified expression that is far from accurate because of how the body gets Calories from different things. But it's not an unreasonable guide to follow if your diet is balanced. If you want real accuracy and understanding you'd have to look well beyond simple Calorie in, Calorie out. But it's still a decent starting point to keep a rough idea of your intake. |
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Some of you clearly don't read the part about excess calories. I even capitalized the keyword. Also, while the insulin response of steak isn't as high as sugary foods, it does create quite a response. It's big enough that you could become insulin resistant if it were possible to eat enough steak to do so. Insulin is a storage hormone for many nutrients, not just carbohydrates. |
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I can't say how your body works, but speaking for myself, the composition of the food I eat makes all the difference in the world. I'm convinced that my sugar intake is the reason I've stayed fat all these years. |
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While cranberry juice has a number of benefits it almost always comes drenched in sugar to improve the taste... |
I prefer sweets to juice. Juice got cut long ago.
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I don't disagree with the article in practice, because I cut out fruit juice from my diet a long time ago, but it engages in such obvious hyperbole.
I guess they figured an article titled "Most Fruit Juices have a lot of Calories and you may want to be Careful about how much you Drink" wouldn't generate the number of clicks they were looking for. |
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I'm not a sweet tooth but I like my OJ with breakfast. I keep it to about a 1/2 cup serving. |
I was obese at 290 and had health issues. I started my diet with being very strict about liquids just water, coffee and tea.And had to stop drinking liquor which sucked. I didn't cut down that much on food and in a year went from 290 to 220. It was way easier to have will power over what I drank than what I ate.
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My daily drinkers are POM and Bolthouse carrot juice
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