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Dante84 08-08-2019 11:04 AM

Chiefs Sign FA CB Mo Claiborne
 
Per Terez

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have agreed to terms with free agent CB Mo Claiborne, a source tells me. He’s flying out to K.C. tonight.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1159510489141063680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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RockChalk 08-08-2019 11:05 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have agreed to terms with free agent CB Mo Claiborne, a source tells me. He’s flying out to K.C. tonight.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1159510489141063680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Skyy God 08-08-2019 11:06 AM

Solid signing.

Probably no worse than 1/$2M.

okiedokieokoye 08-08-2019 11:06 AM

Why not?

RealSNR 08-08-2019 11:06 AM

Honestly, I see this going about as well as Scandrick.

We get the valuable vet in here because the other guys are too young and shitty, and by the end of it all we just end up rolling with the young and shitty guys, because at least they're not old and washed the **** up

Mecca 08-08-2019 11:08 AM

Well he has time to get up to speed, he has a 4 game suspension to serve.

dirk digler 08-08-2019 11:08 AM

I see that he is suspended for the first 4 games

Iowanian 08-08-2019 11:08 AM

I'm indifferent about this signing.

Scandrick is probably a good comparison of my expectations, but he had talent at one time. If he's better than the 5th corner I'm glad to see the upgrade.

thabear04 08-08-2019 11:08 AM

Remember when Charles stiff arm him.

Titty Meat 08-08-2019 11:08 AM

Does this mean Breeland isnt doing well and Fields is probably a PS guy?

okiedokieokoye 08-08-2019 11:10 AM

I hope they can coach the penalties out of him...

Skyy God 08-08-2019 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14384678)
Honestly, I see this going about as well as Scandrick.

We get the valuable vet in here because the other guys are too young and shitty, and by the end of it all we just end up rolling with the young and shitty guys, because at least they're not old and washed the **** up

Giving Mark Fields/developmental CB to be traded for later time to develop isn't the worst idea.

TribalElder 08-08-2019 11:10 AM

another LSU guy to patrol the secondary* with the honey badger

they were on LSU at the same time I think

-King- 08-08-2019 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 14384684)
Remember when Charles stiff arm him.

Stiff arm? That was a mack truck hitting a bug

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smithandrew051 08-08-2019 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 14384692)
another LSU guy to patrol the secondary* with the honey badger

they were on LSU at the same time I think

We should trade for that other LSU corner too

carcosa 08-08-2019 11:15 AM

HAVE WE SIGN THE PIECE OF SHIT YET

In58men 08-08-2019 11:15 AM

Damn I like it

staylor26 08-08-2019 11:16 AM

Good move. We’re an injury away from starting an UDFA rookie or second year player.

Bowser 08-08-2019 11:16 AM

So who did we move to bring Claiborne in?

In58men 08-08-2019 11:16 AM

I just texted my buddy and he said when he played Madden on franchise mode he was on the team??

In58men 08-08-2019 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14384703)
So who did we move to bring Claiborne in?

Dieter I think.

TribalElder 08-08-2019 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14384698)
We should trade for that other LSU corner too

I was just thinking that, wonder if we grab PP after his suspension is over :hmmm:

FAX 08-08-2019 11:18 AM

The training staff is thrilled.

FAX

Chief Roundup 08-08-2019 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14384703)
So who did we move to bring Claiborne in?

I didn't think we were at 90.

O.city 08-08-2019 11:19 AM

Out the first 4 games


Can maybe make it thru but he’s more of a depth guy anyway so it’s a nice signing

If he’s washed it’s a mil gone

chinaski 08-08-2019 11:22 AM

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RunKC 08-08-2019 11:26 AM

Thank you Veach! Wanted this guy for about a month now.

He just had a career year with 2 INT’s and 14 passes defended. He’s a decent corner who can start and not be a disaster like Scandrick.

RealSNR 08-08-2019 11:26 AM

PFF liked him last year :shrug:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> Morris Claiborne has been one of the top corner backs in the NFL so far this season! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GangGreen?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GangGreen</a> <a href="https://t.co/fTB0Ls5TqD">pic.twitter.com/fTB0Ls5TqD</a></p>&mdash; PFF NY Jets (@PFF_Jets) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Jets/status/1066030918366896128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Wilson8 08-08-2019 11:27 AM

The Chiefs have agreed to sign free agent cornerback Morris Claiborne, according to Terez A. Paylor of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link). Claiborne will get a one-year deal worth up to $1.5MM, per Ian Rapoport of NFL.com (Twitter link).

Rain Man 08-08-2019 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14384696)

I was just about to ask this very question. I remembered him getting trucked by a Chiefs running back, but I couldn't remember who it was.

Welcome, Morris. We hope you'll forget about this little incident and help us hoist a Lombardi this year.

Sassy Squatch 08-08-2019 11:32 AM

Please don't be Amerson/Scandrick II Electric Boogaloo

TomBarndtsTwin 08-08-2019 11:33 AM

'Please welcome, Orlando Scandrick, 2.0 to the fold'

Hopefully it goes better than part 1 . . . . .


On another note, this signing doesn't exactly inspire a ton of confidence in me for what the coaches think of what we have now. Although, I suppose it could just be for additional depth and nothing more.

KCUnited 08-08-2019 11:34 AM

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DJ's left nut 08-08-2019 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14384686)
Does this mean Breeland isnt doing well and Fields is probably a PS guy?

He won't need a roster spot for the first 4 weeks it gives some of the young guys a chance to earn/lose a job while Claiborne learns the system.

Really a savvy, low risk move.

tyton75 08-08-2019 11:36 AM

I'm really excited about this move. Smart, low risk, high reward type move!

Hammock Parties 08-08-2019 11:37 AM

well above average

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CB Morris Claiborne seasons (300+ snaps)<br><br>2018: 62.7 Overall, 60.3 Coverage<br>2017: 62.9 Overall, 58.3 Coverage <br>2016: 74.3 Overall, 77.7 Coverage<br>2015: 45.0 Overall, 47.5 Coverage<br>2013: 57.8 Overall, 56.4 Coverage<br>2012: 64.1 Overall, 69.0 Coverage</p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1157805700288077825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 08-08-2019 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14384725)
PFF liked him last year :shrug:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> Morris Claiborne has been one of the top corner backs in the NFL so far this season! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GangGreen?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GangGreen</a> <a href="https://t.co/fTB0Ls5TqD">pic.twitter.com/fTB0Ls5TqD</a></p>&mdash; PFF NY Jets (@PFF_Jets) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Jets/status/1066030918366896128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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His draft status held him back. Teams presumed a high pick should be able to be a good man corner.

He can't - too stiff.

But he can play zone well enough. It's a good get, IMO.

Wilson8 08-08-2019 11:38 AM

He will need a spot on the 90 man roster but that will be easy to take care of.

Morris will be able to practice and play in preseason games but has to sit out for the first four games.

Dante84 08-08-2019 11:41 AM

A Brett Veach special.

- Cam Erving
- Reggie Ragland
- Darron Lee
- CJ Spiller
- CJ Spiller
- CJ Spiller
- CJ Spiller

Skyy God 08-08-2019 11:41 AM

Deal is up to $1.5M.

Good job, Veachy.

Dante84 08-08-2019 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14384751)
well above average

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CB Morris Claiborne seasons (300+ snaps)<br><br>2018: 62.7 Overall, 60.3 Coverage<br>2017: 62.9 Overall, 58.3 Coverage <br>2016: 74.3 Overall, 77.7 Coverage<br>2015: 45.0 Overall, 47.5 Coverage<br>2013: 57.8 Overall, 56.4 Coverage<br>2012: 64.1 Overall, 69.0 Coverage</p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1157805700288077825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is that how PFF scores? 50 is "average" and above or below 50 corresponds to that? I always thought it was a 0-100 grading scale.

That makes me feel better about reading these now.

TEX 08-08-2019 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14384760)
A Brett Veach special.

- Cam Erving
- Reggie Ragland
- Darron Lee
- CJ Spiller
- CJ Spiller
- CJ Spiller
- CJ Spiller

LMAO Good one!

O.city 08-08-2019 11:45 AM

Ita a nice depth move that isn’t enough financially to stop them from anything bigger if it presents itself

Can’t be upset about it

pugsnotdrugs19 08-08-2019 11:46 AM

Does he start tho? I don’t think so.

This feels like CB4.

TambaBerry 08-08-2019 11:47 AM

he is a good fit in spags system. I think he will be our starter week 5

Wilson8 08-08-2019 11:48 AM

Kendall Fuller, Bashaud Breeland, Charvarius Ward to start with D'Montre Wade, Rashad Fenton, Mark Fields, Herb Miller, Dakari Monroe, and Michael Hunter will compete for two or three spots. After 4 weeks someone will be moved to PS and Morris comes on 53 man roster.

TEX 08-08-2019 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14384678)
Honestly, I see this going about as well as Scandrick.

We get the valuable vet in here because the other guys are too young and shitty, and by the end of it all we just end up rolling with the young and shitty guys, because at least they're not old and washed the **** up

Maybe so, but this DC and scheme is different. I doubt they stick him out on an island so he can get torched all the time.

arrowheadnation 08-08-2019 11:53 AM

I hope this is just for depth and we're still planning on trying to try and make a flashy move for a starter.

ToxSocks 08-08-2019 11:53 AM

OMG WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO NEGATIVE???

/Butt****ing morons.

Hoover 08-08-2019 11:54 AM

Fuller is dinger up is what I heard

Skyy God 08-08-2019 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14384779)
Kendall Fuller, Bashaud Breeland, Charvarius Ward to start with D'Montre Wade, Rashad Fenton, Mark Fields, Herb Miller, Dakari Monroe, and Michael Hunter will compete for two or three spots. After 4 weeks someone will be moved to PS and Morris comes on 53 man roster.

I can see them carrying 5 CBs initially given HB and Thornhill’s versatility.

Hoover 08-08-2019 11:57 AM

1. He's only 29, so younger than I thought.
2. Older guys with experience on legit SB teams can sometimes work out.

Not a long term solution, but it can't hurt.

Pitt Gorilla 08-08-2019 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14384779)
Kendall Fuller, Bashaud Breeland, Charvarius Ward to start with D'Montre Wade, Rashad Fenton, Mark Fields, Herb Miller, Dakari Monroe, and Michael Hunter will compete for two or three spots. After 4 weeks someone will be moved to PS and Morris comes on 53 man roster.

I mean, it's this. We still get to play young guys for 4 weeks. If Mo's better, one of them moves to the PS. It's a decent idea.

Wilson8 08-08-2019 12:11 PM

Good signing. Signing this late and for only $1.5 M, no real commitment from the Chiefs. He will have to practice and play his way into playing time.

Buckweath 08-08-2019 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 14384789)
I hope this is just for depth and we're still planning on trying to try and make a flashy move for a starter.

Yeah same here. I don't think it's a bad move but when no team in the league seems to want the guy and he finally signs for just 1.5M, that tells me he is not well regarded around the league. I would compare this move to signing Scandrick last year.

Now, if Veach has plans to trade for a good CB either before the season or after a few games if he sees that the corners are clearly overmatched, it's all good to me.

Chargem 08-08-2019 12:19 PM

The first 4 games aren't that bad either, so he becomes available at the right time.

O.city 08-08-2019 12:21 PM

Terez says it can get to 3 mil if all works out

Dunerdr 08-08-2019 12:23 PM

why is everyone in a panic? this feels like number 4 corner stuff all day.

Dunerdr 08-08-2019 12:24 PM

and even if he is a starter, good, that means hes better than what we have even if he turns out not that good.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-08-2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14384851)
Terez says it can get to 3 mil if all works out

Hopefully that means starting in the Super Bowl... ha

RunKC 08-08-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14384841)
Yeah same here. I don't think it's a bad move but when no team in the league seems to want the guy and he finally signs for just 1.5M, that tells me he is not well regarded around the league. I would compare this move to signing Scandrick last year.

Now, if Veach has plans to trade for a good CB either before the season or after a few games if he sees that the corners are clearly overmatched, it's all good to me.

Claiborne is probably as good as Veach can get at this point until the trade deadline, which honestly doesn’t yield great players very often.

Claiborne is very experienced and is a decent starting corner last year who had a career year. That’s much better than a rookie or question mark player.

I wouldn’t hold my breath on a really good corner being available until after the season is over.

DJ's left nut 08-08-2019 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 14384856)
why is everyone in a panic? this feels like number 4 corner stuff all day.

{reads thread}
{reads thread again}
{runs thread through google translate and re-reads thread in non-native tongue}

Dude...who's in a panic?

Everyone seems to be somewhere between optimistic or ambivalent.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-08-2019 12:32 PM

I’m gonna also have to say, with Mathieu and Thornhill the Chiefs should have some really good safety play and that will ease some of our concerns at CB. I think it could be similar to what Philly had a couple years ago in that sense.

If it ends up being Fuller/Breeland/Claiborne, that should be just fine in this scheme IMO.

O.city 08-08-2019 12:36 PM

I’m curious at how else they were supposed to improve the cb spot?

If you wanted a real big name or something that time was in March or April

dirk digler 08-08-2019 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14384884)
I’m curious at how else they were supposed to improve the cb spot?

If you wanted a real big name or something that time was in March or April


Yep so really the only opportunities moving forward would be a big trade or hope a decent CB gets cut because of money. Otherwise we roll with what we have for now.

tyton75 08-08-2019 12:45 PM

Veach pulled Charvarious Ward out of Dallas at the end of camp last year. Dude is pretty good!

There is no downside to this move and I'm not putting it passed Veach to do something else at the end of camp.

okiedokieokoye 08-08-2019 12:54 PM

Week 1 Jacksonville---Don't need him.
Week 2 Oakland--Ha ha!
Week 3 Ravens--More worried about their run game..
Week 4 Detroit--Stafford could light us up, but not overly worried about the rest of that team.


I think we'll be good. Just in time for Luck and the Colts in week 5.

Pitt Gorilla 08-08-2019 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14384841)
Yeah same here. I don't think it's a bad move but when no team in the league seems to want the guy and he finally signs for just 1.5M, that tells me he is not well regarded around the league. I would compare this move to signing Scandrick last year.

Now, if Veach has plans to trade for a good CB either before the season or after a few games if he sees that the corners are clearly overmatched, it's all good to me.

I'm guessing many teams don't want him because he's out the first four games. That isn't going to matter as much to us and also figured into the discount, I imagine.

BleedingRed 08-08-2019 12:58 PM

Good now go sign Patrick Peterson and we can put the old LSU Defense back together.

staylor26 08-08-2019 01:02 PM

Where’s OKchiefs? Does he still think Veach doesn’t see the need at corner?

Mecca 08-08-2019 01:02 PM

There were the rumors of Josh Norman being cut but I just can't see that happening when if they suck people will get fired.

OKchiefs 08-08-2019 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14384934)
Where’s OKchiefs? Does he still think Veach doesn’t see the need at corner?

Outside of trading for a nickle corner Veach's biggest additions at cornerback in 2 years as GM have been Scandrick and now Clairborne. Yes, I'm sure he really sees the need and has adequately addressed the position. With almost zero cap room going into next season and everyone but Ward hitting free agency I'm also INCREDIBLY confident that Veach will be able to adequately address the position for next season. It seems like a GREAT idea to paint yourself into a corner (pun intended) of having to count on a rookie cornerback to produce right away. But knowing Veach he'll still find a way to wait until day 3 to draft a cornerback with a quote later of "The board just didn't work out our way so we took a 6'1" 290 lb fatass DE/DT tweener again.

staylor26 08-08-2019 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14384978)
Outside of trading for a nickle corner Veach's biggest additions at cornerback in 2 years as GM have been Scandrick and now Clairborne. Yes, I'm sure he really sees the need and has adequately addressed the position. With almost zero cap room going into next season and everyone but Ward hitting free agency I'm also INCREDIBLY confident that Veach will be able to adequately address the position for next season. It seems like a GREAT idea to paint yourself into a corner (pun intended) of having to count on a rookie cornerback to produce right away. But knowing Veach he'll still find a way to wait until day 3 to draft a cornerback with a quote later of "The board just didn't work out our way so we took a 6'1" 290 lb fatass DE/DT tweener again.

Ummm no. We tried to sign Kyle Fuller last year, but it didn’t work out because he was tagged. We traded for Ward, who could be a solid starter if he picks up where he left off last year. We signed Breeland this offseason. He clearly was hoping for Murphy or Ya-Sin to fall into a range where we could trade up. It’s not his fault that we’ve had two weak FA/draft corner classes to pick from the last two years. The only way you can come to the conclusions you have is if you ignore all of this stuff, which you continue to do because you’re a ****ing moron.

BossChief 08-08-2019 01:35 PM

Seems like Veach tried to trade for a corner, but the ones he wants aren’t budging on demands, so he went with the low risk high reward guy in Mo. Veach mentioned a couple months ago trying to re-visit some trade opportunities once camps got going and to me this signing is an indication that those teams didn’t want to move them for reasonable compensation.

Fuller
Ward
Breeland
Claiborne
Fields
Wade/Fenton/someone not currently on roster

Buckweath 08-08-2019 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14384994)
Ummm no. We tried to sign Kyle Fuller last year, but it didn’t work out because he was tagged. We traded for Ward, who could be a solid starter if he picks up where he left off last year. We signed Breeland this offseason. He clearly was hoping for Murphy or Ya-Sin to fall into a range where we could trade up. It’s not his fault that we’ve had two weak free agent and draft corner classes to pick from the last two years. The only way you can come to the conclusions you have is if you ignore all of this stuff, which you continue to do because you’re a ****ing moron.

Veach has to do something.

It might not have been a strong FA crop but there were still players to be had. Veach could have made a stronger push for Ronald Darby for example.

All in all, I've got no problem with him not drafting any CB high but now I really hope that he understands that the CB position could make or break this team. The CB position could literally ruin a SB run and I don't care that the safeties are good.

eDave 08-08-2019 01:39 PM

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staylor26 08-08-2019 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14385001)
Veach has to do something.

It might not have been a strong FA crop but there were still players to be had. Veach could have made a stronger push for Ronald Darby for example.

All in all, I've got no problem with him not drafting any CB high but now I really hope that he understands that the CB position could make or break this team. The CB position could literally ruin a SB run and I don't care that the safeties are good.

Ronald Darby isn’t even healthy. Nobody knows when he will play this year or if he’ll be 100% by the time the playoff come around.

staylor26 08-08-2019 01:45 PM

I think some of you fail to realize that there’s an extreme shortage of good corners in today’s NFL. Why do you think somebody like Steven Nelson got paid?

What should Veach have done? Overpaid for somebody like Trumaine Johnson or Malcolm Butler last year? This years best free agent is nowhere near healthy to start the year, and we got one of the top guys available.

Veach clearly sees what we see at corner, but he’s not going to severely overpay or make a panic move to fix it because that’s how you **** yourself. We’re way better off than we were at this time last year and our safeties are 100% better. That’s good enough for now.

Rain Man 08-08-2019 01:46 PM

Being a cornerback in the modern NFL is like signing up to be the backup center for the Washington Generals. I think the shortage will get worse over time because no one will enjoy playing a position where the rules are designed to make them look bad.

The Franchise 08-08-2019 01:51 PM

Jason Verrett is already injured and won’t play in the preseason.


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