Independence Center brawl
 

:facepalm:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the KC Star&#39;s Trey Williams. Police break up fights involving hundreds of teens at Independence mall <a href="https://t.co/i9b6NlJaB4">https://t.co/i9b6NlJaB4</a></p>&mdash; Joyce Smith (@JoyceKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoyceKC/status/1343558016671617036?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Independence police called on parents Saturday evening to pick up their kids from Independence Center after multiple large disturbances and fights broke out causing the mall to close early, police said.

In a post on the department’s Facebook page, Independence police said, “If you left a child (under 18) at the Independence Center, come get them now. This is at the request of mall management.”

According to Independence police public information officer John Syme, multiple disturbances and fights involving several hundred teens occurred around 5:30 p.m. The incidents forced mall security to close the mall early, around 6:30 p.m.

Ten individuals were arrested and cited for disorderly conduct, endangering the welfare of a minor, interfering with police, assault on a law enforcement officer, and false information, Syme said in an email.

Six of those were adults and four were juveniles. Four of the adults were parents or grandparents of some of the juveniles who were charged.

Multiple agencies were involved, including the Jackson County Sheriff’s Office and the Blue Springs, Lee’s Summit and Kansas City Police Departments, Syme said.

Independence police have previously said they have experienced issues with minors causing disturbances at restaurants, businesses and entertainment venues at Independence Center.

Police, along with mall management and local groups, instituted a 9 p.m. curfew for minors, which began Nov. 26.

The curfew is every night and ends at 6 a.m. in the area between 40 Highway on the south, 39th Street on the north, Little Blue Parkway to the east and M291 Highway to the west.

The city said that the curfew is strictly enforced, and that parents of unaccompanied juveniles will be issued citations.

Independence city officials said when announcing the curfew that an uptick in incidents this year prompted the curfew.

“We have had incidents at various businesses, restaurants, entertainment venues, shopping areas and parking lots throughout the region,” Independence Police Chief Brad Halsey said in a news release in November. “In all of these incidents, minors have been causing disturbances, affecting the flow of traffic, and negatively impacting the experience of others visiting these venues. This has diverted police attention from other areas of the community requiring additional presence to protect the patrons and businesses in this area.”

Worldstar!

Wait, hundreds?

That’s what the story claims. But you know media likes to blow things up....

Why are so many Honor Roll students at the mall at the same time?

I want malls back. Stop making strip malls. I don't like going to store to store when it's cold. I'm an avid indoorsman.

I feel like there is an Independence Center brawl about once every two months or so.

This is one of the reasons indoor malls are dying out. They became teen drop offs and hangouts.

Agreed...i was surprised this wasn't a bump from a past incident.

They need more 'positive reinforcement" and "restorative justice"
Make sure they know they are good people, are smart and the world has wronged them.


That will turn them into better people.

This wasn’t a brawl.

It was a peaceful protest.

Agreed. Indoor malls are one of mankind's greatest inventions. I want them to remain so I have someplace to walk in the winter when I get old.

I used to go to this mall sometimes in the late 90s and early 00s. I assumed there was a brawl there weekly.

I'm from Independence and I WILL fight you!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news...ll/vi-BB1chZ5x

Wow. That’s a big fight. Surprised there wasn’t more injuries. There has to be video of a brawl with 500 teenagers.

Were they BLM protesters?

They fight, they're just not very good at it.

On Christmas Eve night I stayed up late and watched my favorite Christmas Movie Bad Santa. My favorite scene is when he beats the crap out of the skate punks. Maybe I should go out to Independence Center New Years eve and kick the shit out of a few fifteen year olds...

Make sure you film it and post it on your Tik Toks

That might be my favorite Christmas movie as well. Though my favorite scene is when he comes up the escalator drunk, trips over the donkey statue in the nativity scene, calls it a spic and punches its head off. In most versions of the movie, they cut out the part where he calls the donkey that name.

I think the shocking story line here is that 500 teenagers actually still go to the mall to hang out.

I beat the shit out of some kids today...but it was for a purpose.

Mostly peaceful brawl.

"I think I've turned a corner..." ROFL

Was it a mask shaming brawl?

I always watch the shining once a year and only on Christmas Eve.

Where's the video?

One would think there would be some mobile phone vdo of this so called massive brawl.

You know those kiddos love the videos. Crazy funny kids gotta love them.:harumph:

Cool it with the gay shit

I have a bad Santa suit. Inside above the pocket it says “Merry Christmas Mother****er”. This year was the first time in 4 I didn’t wear it out in public. People love it.

Blame schools.

No really. This is what happens without discipline and structure anywhere.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10 arrested, cited after &#39;multiple large disturbances&#39; at Independence Center<a href="https://t.co/2seHrC3KL7">https://t.co/2seHrC3KL7</a></p>&mdash; 41 Action News (@41actionnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1343656679536291842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

nothing like a family getting all ****ed up and head to the mall to kick some ass on Christmas.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/indepen...urday/35085107

Looks like they implemented a curfew for this weekend


No one under 17 without a parent after 3pm

The other problem is the cops. They are not smart. Should of locked the mall down with them inside and called each parent.
I am betting the meetup happened off an app. Have a few of the kids crack and give up how they are meeting up.
Charge everyone for loitering and the ones actually fighting for the assault and more if done. If the kids were 15 are younger charge the parents.

This shit keeps happening and they need to quit being reactionary.

I'm sure a lot of these parents are the same kind of people who line up outside of Wal Mart on Thanksgiving Night, and beat the crap out of each other over a game console...

I work in a downtown high-rise, and one time I looked out my window to see a bunch of teenage girls crossing the street. There were probably 40 or 50 girls in two groups, one ahead of the other. The larger back group caught up with the smaller front group and then it was a big brawl from there. I was sitting on my upper floor looking down as girls were slamming other girls' heads against cars, punches were being thrown in a dozen melees, and all sorts of general chaos happened as they chased each other around on a busy street. It went on for maybe three or four minutes before everyone got dispersed. There were no weapons and no significant injuries, but it was surprising to see. And contrary to cinematic standards, not a single one got her clothes ripped off.

We went to the mall for one reason, and it wasn't to fight.

Yep, it was to pick up girls.

Would love to take a hammer fist to some of these punks skulls

Well now you're not gonna shit right for a week.

Where's Johnny Lawrence when you need him?

Hell yes. When IC opened, it was the biggest mall in the country.

It was a pretty big deal at the time.

Schools would be the last place people should expect to look towards for discipline or structure. Blame the home. Parents or parent and lack of family structure. I blame the men or lack of men in these kids lives. Until certain cultures start cleaning up their mess it's going to stay the same or worse.

Shit, my mom would be locked up as a child abuser today. She'd beat my ass with whatever was handy, wherever we were. And thank God she did.

Spare the rod, spoil the child. One of the most basic, undeniable truths of human existence, blasted away by the same idiot cockbags who think there are 20 different genders.

Actually the parents are to blame IMO.

It's both.

Parents used to be in concert in Schools.


...as in BEAT YO ASS.

Parents don't parent. Don't know how to parent.

Schools don't do discipline any more.


= = = Riots of 2020 and MPLS most murders ever.

restorative justice is going to ruin society


My new school had a drug dog come through during class right before break.

I was happy.

Great news. I’m glad you got out of the old shithole.

Everyone needs to get their ass kicked at some point of their life, but I don't think parents are the ones who need to do it. The worst thing my parents would do to me is take my Playstation away. Hollly shit did that suck.

Definitely watch the Unrated version of Bad Santa, it's way better than the regular.

I think my favorite scene, out of many, is when Marcus asks the elf girl if she's seen the new Santa and in perfect teenage accent she goes, "YAAAA, HE'S BACK THERE DRUNK".

kills me every time

So many great parts to that movie.

You look at this face because this thing is the last ****ing thing you are ever gonna see. My brother lost a god damned arm fighting you ****ers in Vietnam (while talking to an Indian guy lolol)


BTW, where is that poster named Therman Merman? :LOL::LOL:

Why?

Police scanner recording from the incident


https://fb.watch/2HdKFhRO2l/

Who's gonna enforce it, Paul Blart with a can of pepper spray?

You never see a good brawl on the Hallmark Channel...

There was just a shooting there a few minutes ago

Yep, IPD reporting a shooting, lots of people are in lock down inside the mall. Happy New Year!

Welcome to independence!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County Sheriff’s Office deputies are on scene with the Independence Police Department at the Independence Center where a shooting is being reported. Details will be provided by the Independence Police Department. <a href="https://twitter.com/CityOfIndepMO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CityOfIndepMO</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JacksonCountyMO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JacksonCountyMO</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/KCMO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KCMO</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JCSheriffOffice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JCSheriffOffice</a> <a href="https://t.co/NWDk8J50jM">pic.twitter.com/NWDk8J50jM</a></p>&mdash; Darryl Forte&#39; (@sheriffforte) <a href="https://twitter.com/sheriffforte/status/1344796108250345472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

16 year old kid. :facepalm:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update from Independence Police:<br><br>16-year-old boy shot in the leg at 5:13 p.m. at the Independence Center Mall. Police were working as off-duty security guard when they heard gunshots. The officers provided first aid to the teen.<br>One person arrested. The center is closed .</p>&mdash; 41 Action News (@41actionnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/1344801104786300929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It happened by dicks, my son works at the buckle which is right by there.

There'll be a lot of drunken yahoos firing rounds into the air at Midnight tonight as well. I always worry some innocent is going to get hit. Shudder to think.

Kids have been pent up all year and people are surprised when they go wild?

It’s not that. They always had issues before covid.

About 15 years ago I was out and about on NYE with some friends. Got home the next morning and went to take a shower and there was really weird damage. A bullet had been fired at midnight and fell into my bathroom. If I had been taking a shower at the time it probably would have struck me.

Do you think your cause of death would have been gunshot or drowning?

That's a wild story, though. So you saw a bullet hole in your ceiling? Did it cause a hole in your shower/tub? Did you find the bullet?

A few years ago a bullet went through a girls apartment and struck her a few blocks from here

I’ve never understood that. They do realize they eventually come back down right?

Someone was killed about 15 years ago in McAllen Texas when we were down there about 20 ago - bullet came through the roof and hit a dude in the head.

Another ****ing shooting

These days it would've been covid

I think my kid is gonna have to stop working there.

WTF is going on there??

Urban youths just hanging out

Independence isn't exactly "urban" I've been to that mall 500 times and urban isn't the general word I'd use.

some old guy told me independence used to be nice in the 80s

all american city i was rated per wikipedia at one point

now tons of poor broke whyppl

The mall put new rules in place for kids 17 and under. The mall ownership is very worried about public perception with new curfew rules. There's actually a police station in the mall, and more cops are going to be stationed there. Independence has a LOT of money invested in that corridor. The hospital is right down the street, Hockey arena across on the opposite side of I-70. The last thing they want is brawls and gunshots. They will increase police presence a lot, but the cat may already be out of the bag. Of course the kids are complaining "they have nowhere else to go." I don't buy that argument. A lot of this is on the parents dumping their kids at the mall while they go do other things. It's a complicated situation.

It probably is a thing now to go there and cause problems.

This was outside in the parking lot. More than 30 shots fired. Wow


Authorities are investigating a shooting in a parking lot outside Independence Center Monday afternoon.

Police said an officer was patrolling the parking lot and heard multiple gunshots fired.


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Investigators said people in two vehicles were firing shots at each other.

Authorities said one person in one of the vehicles was shot in the head. The victim's condition was described as non-life-threatening.

Police said they are looking for the second vehicle involved in the shooting. It was described as a dirty, black Chrysler 300.

Authorities said more than 30 shots were fired in the incident.

Police said they do have some people in custody in connection with the shooting.

On New Year's Eve, a teenager was shot in the leg inside the mall.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/authori...enter/35121608

I lived near the mall when I was in middle school in the 80s. It was ok, but nothing to write home about. I recall that there were nice areas and rough areas in town. Lakewood was nice back then, but that was in Lee's Summit. The shopping and dining options around the mall are nicer today than they were in the 80s. Not sure what it is like being an Independence resident now.

I'd say the victim is quite lucky.

What was daquix doing in KC?

I haven't been there in 20 years but it's really bad when shit like this happens and the mall gets a reputation for it. Doesnt end well (Indian Springs, Bannister Mall, Etc.)