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RunKC 09-28-2020 09:41 PM

So it’s really just the Steelers [or Bills] right?
 
I mean goddamn this conference seems wrapped up doesn’t it? Not trying to jinx us but it really seems like injuries are our biggest opponent at this point.

The Ravens are ****ing frauds. They’re a warm up for us. We literally made these guys look like the JV squad the last 2 meetings.

And sure the Bills and Titans may make us work for the win, but in all honesty we have to play pretty goddamn shitty to lose to those guys.

In order to have any shot at beating us you need 3 things:

1. Elite pass rush
2. Top 10 QB capable of making critical plays
3. Overall talented roster

Steelers are the only team in the AFC that has those 3 things, and even them it’s not like they’re some serious threat like the Patriots a couple years back, but they seem like the best of the rest.

I think at this point it would be disappointing for this team to not get to the SB 3 straight times.

We’re just that good, and we keep drafting well and get better and better.

Eleazar 09-28-2020 09:42 PM

I guess? Don’t think the Steelers are a whole lot better other than having a QB.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-28-2020 09:43 PM

The Chiefs should win the AFC but there are 2-3 teams that could definitely beat them if they play shitty.

And even then Mahomes might save the day.

carcosa 09-28-2020 09:44 PM

Meh

staylor26 09-28-2020 09:44 PM

The Colts are playing great defense too.

I know they played the Jags and Jets, but that D has talent and they’re well coached.

Jewish Rabbi 09-28-2020 09:44 PM

The Steelers ****ing suck ass lmao Grandpa Ben ain’t beating Mahomes

Why Not? 09-28-2020 09:44 PM

Steelers had Jeff Driskell in a position to win late and beat the Texans by one score. I’m not sure they make the top 2 or 3 potential playoff teams I’d be worried about*


*= I’m not worried about any team.

htismaqe 09-28-2020 09:45 PM

The Steelers blitz a lot. I think they're built to beat the Ravens but not the Chiefs.

Bl00dyBizkitz 09-28-2020 09:45 PM

A lot can happen in 3 months. It's a learned response to temper my expectations.

Rasputin 09-28-2020 09:45 PM

Chiefs were just toying with the Ravens Defense it was never really close they just had a couple let downs with a kick return and fumble that gave the Ravens glimmer of hope but we just let them have hope enough to crush their soul.

Why Not? 09-28-2020 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15201726)
The Colts are playing great defense too.

I know they played the Jags and Jets, but that D has talent and they’re well coached.

Dude we’d pick off Rivers like 4 times. Also their D got shredded by the Jags.

htismaqe 09-28-2020 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15201726)
The Colts are playing great defense too.

I know they played the Jags and Jets, but that D has talent and they’re well coached.

The Colts just don't have the horses to keep up, IMO.

And you know what Rivers does when the game is on the line.

Shoes 09-28-2020 09:47 PM

You gotta be able to rush 4 and consistently get home to have a chance against Mahomes. 16/20 + 3 TD’s for Mahomes against the blitz tonight.

Halfcan 09-28-2020 09:50 PM

Mahomes was nearly perfect against the Blitz tonight.

RunKC 09-28-2020 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15201714)
The Chiefs should win the AFC but there are 2-3 teams that could definitely beat them if they play shitty.

And even then Mahomes might save the day.

If you don’t have a top 10 QB and top 5 pass rush you have no chance against us. None.

It would take a laundry list of key players injured for the other team to have a fair shake of it and even then we’re too stacked and too well coached.

I think we’re about to ****ing roll dude. This is going to be like a few years ago when Peyton retired and Brady just got free access to the SB for 3 years.

Obviously it’s hard to project what the NFL landscape will look like further than 2 years but I can say with complete and utter confidence that this team should get to 3 straight Super Bowls.

And I think we have a great shot at being the first team in NFL history to three peat.

New World Order 09-28-2020 09:50 PM

I still think NE is up there because of Belicheat and Cam is playing pretty well.

But yeah, pretty much.

Coach 09-28-2020 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15201737)
The Steelers blitz a lot. I think they're built to beat the Ravens but not the Chiefs.

If the Steelers were smart, they would best not blitz.

Mahomes will burn them. Repeatedly.

StockingAnarchy12 09-28-2020 09:51 PM

As a Patriots fan who has seen Pittsburgh in playoffs numerous occasions, let me just say Pittsburgh aren't really that good against really well coached teams come the postseason. New England embarrassed them multiple times and they only made SB in 2010 or 2011 because we were eliminated before they could face us.

Mahomes/Chiefs barring catastrophe will beat Pittsburgh. Every season is different, but i don't trust Tomlin and the rapist.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-28-2020 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15201771)
If you don’t have a top 10 QB and top 5 pass rush you have no chance against us. None.

It would take a laundry list of key players injured for the other team to have a fair shake of it and even then we’re too stacked and too well coached.

I think we’re about to ****ing roll dude. This is going to be like a few years ago when Peyton retired and Brady just got free access to the SB for 3 years.

Obviously it’s hard to project what the NFL landscape will look like further than 2 years but I can say with complete and utter confidence that this team should get to 3 straight Super Bowls.

And I think we have a great shot at being the first team in NFL history to three peat.

Injuries are always the big caveat and that stuff can change in a blink unfortunately but yeah, if they have some good fortune in that way, they absolutely should get back to the SB several times

Gravedigger 09-28-2020 09:53 PM

Bills and Steelers always play us close.

RunKC 09-28-2020 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15201726)
The Colts are playing great defense too.

I know they played the Jags and Jets, but that D has talent and they’re well coached.

Rivers has 3 TD’s/3 INT’s playing behind an elite OL.

They have no shot. We blow them the **** out

eDave 09-28-2020 09:55 PM

It's nobody.

staylor26 09-28-2020 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15201807)
Rivers has 3 TD’s/3 INT’s playing behind an elite OL.

They have no shot. We blow them the **** out

Oh I know.

Just naming a playoff caliber team that has a defense that could give us some trouble.

St. Patty's Fire 09-28-2020 09:57 PM

The Bills could give us some issues, but if Josh Allen spazzes out a couple times they have no shot. They need to a play a PERFECT game to beat us, and while I’m a big Josh Allen supporter, it’s unlikely he doesn’t turn the ball over at least once against our defense.

Also they have a very solid defense, but will they be able to get pressure with four? Ehhh. They don’t really have any huge playmakers up front. Most of their best players are LBs/secondary players.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-28-2020 09:59 PM

We need to beat New England bad.

Win that one and you’ve pretty much got a 2 game lead on everyone for HFA.

StockingAnarchy12 09-28-2020 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15201776)
I still think NE is up there because of Belicheat and Cam is playing pretty well.

But yeah, pretty much.

I think New England is better than last year, even if we win less games. Last year we bullied weak teams + Brady came off as very angry. I could see New England slipping in at 10-6 this season. No doubt your Chiefs are currently the best team, but I think these Patriots have a slightly better chance than last year. Going to need to be a 9-7 like Giants run though.

With that said, going to be difficult. Chiefs are very good.

Direckshun 09-28-2020 10:05 PM

Never underestimate Belichick and Cam Newton.

tk13 09-28-2020 10:05 PM

Honestly I'll be punched in the face for saying this, but I still don't see why New England can't be there at the end. I don't think this is their most talented team, but the reality is Belichick will coach his guys up and perform when other teams make dumb mistakes and panic (see the Bills, or the Ravens tonight and in last year's playoffs). We're definitely the better team, but I'm not 100% sold that the Bills/Steelers/Ravens are miles ahead of the Pats.

KC_Connection 09-28-2020 10:07 PM

Steelers are probably the top threats right now to this team with Ben back but they aren’t beating Mahomes.

KC_Connection 09-28-2020 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15201874)
Honestly I'll be punched in the face for saying this, but I still don't see why New England can't be there at the end. I don't think this is their most talented team, but the reality is Belichick will coach his guys up and perform when other teams make dumb mistakes and panic (see the Bills, or the Ravens tonight and in last year's playoffs). We're definitely the better team, but I'm not 100% sold that the Bills/Steelers/Ravens are miles ahead of the Pats.

Need a larger sample size of the Cam Newton Pats to come to any firm conclusions but the early returns look good.

I’ve held the opinion for a few years now that Brady’s limitations were holding that team back a bit.

St. Patty's Fire 09-28-2020 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15201898)
Need a larger sample size of the Cam Newton Pats to come to any firm conclusions but the early returns look good.

I’ve held the opinion for a few years now that Brady’s limitations were holding that team back a bit.

They have different limitations with Cam now, though.

Newton is still a solid QB, but he has never been the most accurate, and he’s never been the greatest manager of the game. Even at 43, I’d say Brady still has a superior throwing arm - both power and accuracy - in comparison to Newton. And we all know Brady is one of the best ever at the LOS.

I do think, overall, going from Brady to Newton is a net positive, but their offense still has big question marks for me.

StockingAnarchy12 09-28-2020 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15201874)
Honestly I'll be punched in the face for saying this, but I still don't see why New England can't be there at the end. I don't think this is their most talented team, but the reality is Belichick will coach his guys up and perform when other teams make dumb mistakes and panic (see the Bills, or the Ravens tonight and in last year's playoffs). We're definitely the better team, but I'm not 100% sold that the Bills/Steelers/Ravens are miles ahead of the Pats.

I said earlier, but I think these Patriots are better than last season. Definitely not winning the top seed. I really don't see it. I'm betting we win 10-12 games, however for argument sake I'll say 11.

I think Bills might win AFC East, but I honestly have a weird feeling they'll collapse come postseason. My early pick for a playoff game will be 13-3 Chiefs versus 10-6 or 11-5 Patriots.. I can see us getting by the first round this year to at least have a crack at you guys.

tk13 09-28-2020 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15201898)
Need a larger sample size of the Cam Newton Pats to come to any firm conclusions but the early returns look good.

I’ve held the opinion for a few years now that Brady’s limitations were holding that team back a bit.

For sure, but they went toe to toe with Wilson. And Cam has had playoff success.

But really it's just the fact that Belichick's teams are smart and usually disciplined. That just goes a long way and can make a difference against slightly more talented teams. Especially in a generally weak conference, or at least what feels like a generally weak conference.

Simply Red 09-28-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15201872)
Never underestimate Belichick and Cam Newton.

you should pick against us again next week.

mdchiefsfan 09-28-2020 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 15201795)
Bills and Steelers always play us close.

This.

Titty Meat 09-28-2020 10:18 PM

Patriots are pretty good

Direckshun 09-28-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 15201928)
you should pick against us again next week.

Don't threaten me with a good time.

Eleazar 09-28-2020 10:20 PM

A Chiefs/Seahawks Super Bowl would be entertaining.

JakeF 09-28-2020 10:21 PM

I heard several people say that the Steelers have the best Defense in the NFL.

I dunno. :shrug:

JakeF 09-28-2020 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 15201948)
A Chiefs/Seahawks Super Bowl would be entertaining.

Bleh

I'm so tired of hearing the media guys drool all over Wilson's dong that i change the channel whenever they start talking.

O.city 09-28-2020 10:24 PM

You’ve gotta have a dominant dl. Gotta be able to get pressure with 4. If you can’t do that you can’t beat kc

tk13 09-28-2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15201953)
I heard several people say that the Steelers have the best Defense in the NFL.

I dunno. :shrug:

They can definitely rush the passer, which is huge if you're going to play Mahomes. People rip on Lamar, which yes it is an issue, but I think an equally big issue the Ravens have is they aren't elite rushing the passer. You just have to be able to do that in today's league with today's defensive rules and all the mobile QBs. So then you get what happened tonight, they're just blitzing left and right and getting roasted. There aren't many teams like the Niners and Steelers who can rush 4 and terrorize you.

Look at what the Chargers did last week. They got a fair amount of pressure and caused problems.

BossChief 09-28-2020 10:25 PM

The Pats will probably give us a better game than the Ravens.

BB usually finds a way to trick Pat a few times and force him into mistakes.

jerryaldini 09-28-2020 10:25 PM

In a playoff game Belicheat can design a defense to contain us for a half. I think this is our year to finish them head to head with a Mahomes comeback

Jerok 09-28-2020 10:25 PM

Bills are great.

But I think Allen might be a mental midget like Big Truss and go crazy in a big playoff game.

Pitt Gorilla 09-28-2020 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15201698)
I mean goddamn this conference seems wrapped up doesn’t it? Not trying to jinx us but it really seems like injuries are our biggest opponent at this point.

The Ravens are ****ing frauds. They’re a warm up for us. We literally made these guys look like the JV squad the last 2 meetings.

And sure the Bills and Titans may make us work for the win, but in all honesty we have to play pretty goddamn shitty to lose to those guys.

In order to have any shot at beating us you need 3 things:

1. Elite pass rush
2. Top 10 QB capable of making critical plays
3. Overall talented roster

Steelers are the only team in the AFC that has those 3 things, and even them it’s not like they’re some serious threat like the Patriots a couple years back, but they seem like the best of the rest.

I think at this point it would be disappointing for this team to not get to the SB 3 straight times.

We’re just that good, and we keep drafting well and get better and better.

Chargers don't have a Top 10 QB and they certainly had a legit shot.

St. Patty's Fire 09-28-2020 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 15201948)
A Chiefs/Seahawks Super Bowl would be entertaining.

We’d drop 50

Seahawks defense is like a worse version of the Ravens. Another team that generates zero pressure with four.

JakeF 09-28-2020 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15201981)
Chargers don't have a Top 10 QB and they certainly had a legit shot.

If you have a couple of Dlinemen that can get consistant pressure all game against Mahomes you have a shot. Without that, you don't have much of a chance.

Coach 09-28-2020 10:42 PM

I just can't see NE hanging with us. They just don't have the firepower to do that.

The only other team(s) I can think of would be the Seahawks and the Packers, because they have excellent QB's.

Mecca 09-28-2020 10:44 PM

Cam Newtons gonna run 20 times, in games they don't match up great it's what they do.

Coach 09-28-2020 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15202053)
Cam Newtons gonna run 20 times, in games they don't match up great it's what they do.

Fine by me, our run defense is slowly getting better.

Plus if NE is going to run him 20 times, they won't get far in the playoffs, because he might be injured by that time/body breaking down.

They are aware of their back-up, yes?

DRM08 09-28-2020 10:46 PM

As the Chargers game showed, the team needs to show up focused for every game on the schedule. Belichick will give a strong test next week.

The game tonight is an indicator of what the Chiefs are capable of when Mahomes and the defense bring the A-game. Crazy shit is the special teams unit and Darwin's fumble basically caused a 14 point swing to help the Ravens. That's scary for the rest of the NFL. KC beat a very good team by 14 and could have easily beat them by 28.

JakeF 09-28-2020 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15202053)
Cam Newtons gonna run 20 times, in games they don't match up great it's what they do.

Belichek has a really good defensive mind, he will adjust.

Coach 09-28-2020 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15202066)
As the Chargers game showed, the team needs to show up focused for every game on the schedule. Belichick will give a strong test next week.

The game tonight is an indicator of what the Chiefs are capable of when Mahomes and the defense bring the A-game. Crazy shit is the special teams unit and Darwin's fumble basically caused a 14 point swing to help the Ravens. That's scary for the rest of the NFL. KC beat a very good team by 14 and could have easily beat them by 28.

It should have been 28. KC left points. Too many times they keep shooting themselves at the foot.

Mecca 09-28-2020 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 15202064)
Fine by me, our run defense is slowly getting better.

Plus if NE is going to run him 20 times, they won't get far in the playoffs, because he might be injured by that time/body breaking down.

They are aware of their back-up, yes?

I don't think they care, Newton is a short term option and Belichick is interested bin looking like he doesn't need Brady.

St. Patty's Fire 09-28-2020 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15202066)
As the Chargers game showed, the team needs to show up focused for every game on the schedule. Belichick will give a strong test next week.

The game tonight is an indicator of what the Chiefs are capable of when Mahomes and the defense bring the A-game. Crazy shit is the special teams unit and Darwin's fumble basically caused a 14 point swing to help the Ravens. That's scary for the rest of the NFL. KC beat a very good team by 14 and could have easily beat them by 28.

Chiefs shot themselves in the foot numerous times and still comfortably destroyed the supposed best team in the league

We should all be flying high right now. That’s for sure.

St. Patty's Fire 09-28-2020 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 15202064)
Fine by me, our run defense is slowly getting better.

Plus if NE is going to run him 20 times, they won't get far in the playoffs, because he might be injured by that time/body breaking down.

They are aware of their back-up, yes?

BB is going to run newton into the ground.

jerryaldini 09-28-2020 11:10 PM

Mahomes vs either Wilson or Rodgers in the SB will be fun to watch. Chiefs are more complete than either. Beat Belicheat to get there. Gotta find an L in the regular season though to not have that pressure. Maybe this week, or the Bills.

BWillie 09-28-2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15201965)
You’ve gotta have a dominant dl. Gotta be able to get pressure with 4. If you can’t do that you can’t beat kc

Yep. Cant blitz Mahomes bit but you cant sit back in covg unless you have an elite front four. 49ers and Chargers play us the best due to that. The Steelers with like the 9th Watt actually may match up well with the Chiefs. Ravens have a good defense but their dline is a bit of a weak spit when it is just pass rushing. They are better at stopped the run from a defensive line standpoint and thats what Calaisse Cambell is best at but he looked annoying batting some balls down today.

Mahomes_Is_God 09-29-2020 01:32 AM

Are the Steelers really a bigger threat than the Ravens? They have a better passing attack obviously but I haven't paid too much attention to them. How does their defence stack up against the Raven's defence? Also do they have a run game?

Megatron96 09-29-2020 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15202327)
Are the Steelers really a bigger threat than the Ravens? They have a better passing attack obviously but I haven't paid too much attention to them. How does their defence stack up against the Raven's defence? Also do they have a run game?

Here's the one thing that Steelers can do that the Ravens can't: they can air out the ball and score a lot faster than the Ravens. They have the ability to run a real honest-to-God 2 minute offense and make us defend the whole field, not just the area between the numbers.

We'll need a good performance from both units to ensure a victory against a team like the Steelers.

Funkstown 09-29-2020 01:40 AM

We beat the **** out of the eggplant head frauds tonight. All that shit they talked here all week and their fans must be demoralized to shit.

L.A. Chieffan 09-29-2020 01:42 AM

Pittsburgh does not scare me. They'll finish with a good record because their schedule is so cupcake, but the team itself is just whatever

Megatron96 09-29-2020 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Funkstown (Post 15202334)
We beat the **** out of the eggplant head frauds tonight. All that shit they talked here all week and their fans must be demoralized to shit.

They are. Checked out their forum during the game a couple tim4es, and they've about had it with Harbaugh, which is hilarious, because where would that franchise be without him?

Also a lot of hate for Roman and Wink.

And a bunch were apparently fed up with Lamar as well. Read a lot of posts where they were calling for tearing down the whole team and starting over from scratch.

Good times.

Mahomes_Is_God 09-29-2020 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15202332)
Here's the one thing that Steelers can do that the Ravens can't: they can air out the ball and score a lot faster than the Ravens. They have the ability to run a real honest-to-God 2 minute offense and make us defend the whole field, not just the area between the numbers.

We'll need a good performance from both units to ensure a victory against a team like the Steelers.

Interesting. Sounds like it would be a fun regular season matchup. Not sure if I'd want to face them in the postseason. Not that I don't think we can take them, but if I remember correctly the last time we played against them the refs were blatantly trying to keep us from blowing them out. That game was such bullshit even though we won.

Mahomes_Is_God 09-29-2020 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 15201992)
We’d drop 50

Seahawks defense is like a worse version of the Ravens. Another team that generates zero pressure with four.

But they also have the one guy who could potentially pick apart our defence. I have mad respect for Russ, I wont ever underestimate that dude. He's the Mahomes of the NFC.

L.A. Chieffan 09-29-2020 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15202343)
But they also have the one guy who could potentially pick apart our defence. I have mad respect for Russ, I wont ever underestimate that dude. He's the Mahomes of the NFC.

Yup. Pittsburgh maybe in the 2nd round, but I'm pretty positive that's who we're gonna see in the SB

eDave 09-29-2020 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 15202344)
Yup. Pittsburgh maybe in the 2nd round, but I'm pretty positive that's who we're gonna see in the SB

Hard to be worried about anybody at the moment.

Mahomes_Is_God 09-29-2020 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15202338)
They are. Checked out their forum during the game a couple tim4es, and they've about had it with Harbaugh, which is hilarious, because where would that franchise be without him?

Also a lot of hate for Roman and Wink.

And a bunch were apparently fed up with Lamar as well. Read a lot of posts where they were calling for tearing down the whole team and starting over from scratch.

Good times.

This is from their subreddit...

<a href="https://ibb.co/TRG251x"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/bLVmnFM/Screenshot-20200929-025855-Reddit.jpg" alt="Screenshot-20200929-025855-Reddit" border="0"></a>

They are completely demoralized. I almost feel bad for them, but nah.

eDave 09-29-2020 02:05 AM

"This is reminding me of Tom Brady every time we went against the Steelers".

- Einstein

Mahomes_Is_God 09-29-2020 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 15202344)
Yup. Pittsburgh maybe in the 2nd round, but I'm pretty positive that's who we're gonna see in the SB

We'll see. GB is looking really damn good too. Rodgers is playing more like his younger self.

DRM08 09-29-2020 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15202338)
They are. Checked out their forum during the game a couple tim4es, and they've about had it with Harbaugh, which is hilarious, because where would that franchise be without him?

Also a lot of hate for Roman and Wink.

And a bunch were apparently fed up with Lamar as well. Read a lot of posts where they were calling for tearing down the whole team and starting over from scratch.

Good times.

That's crazy. Their team is built very well to dominate 90% or more of the teams in the league. That sounds like a much better situation as a fan than teams like the Jets for instance.

MahomesMagic 09-29-2020 03:29 AM

The best 3 QB's in the NFL right now are Mahomes, Wilson, and Rodgers. They are in the ultra-elite tier and clearly separated from the rest.

Basileus777 09-29-2020 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by StockingAnarchy12 (Post 15201925)
I said earlier, but I think these Patriots are better than last season. Definitely not winning the top seed. I really don't see it. I'm betting we win 10-12 games, however for argument sake I'll say 11.

I think Bills might win AFC East, but I honestly have a weird feeling they'll collapse come postseason. My early pick for a playoff game will be 13-3 Chiefs versus 10-6 or 11-5 Patriots.. I can see us getting by the first round this year to at least have a crack at you guys.

Nah, the Patriots defense has significantly declined from a season ago. Some of it is just variance, but they've also lost a lot of veteran talent. Patriots passing game still looks very weak as well, I don't have much faith in the Patriots offense in a situation where they have to drop back and pass.

htismaqe 09-29-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 15202416)
Nah, the Patriots defense has significantly declined from a season ago. Some of it is just variance, but they've also lost a lot of veteran talent. Patriots passing game still looks very weak as well, I don't have much faith in the Patriots offense in a situation where they have to drop back and pass.

Exactly.

The Patriots are built to pound the ball and play good defense. Their defense just isn't as good as it used to be.

Eleazar 09-29-2020 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15202338)
They are. Checked out their forum during the game a couple tim4es, and they've about had it with Harbaugh, which is hilarious, because where would that franchise be without him?

Also a lot of hate for Roman and Wink.

And a bunch were apparently fed up with Lamar as well. Read a lot of posts where they were calling for tearing down the whole team and starting over from scratch.

Good times.

They've bought into the Lamar Jackson hype they've been sold, and probably believe another coach can get more out of him.

Run-first QBs are coach killers.

ToxSocks 09-29-2020 10:55 AM

Patriots are still the biggest threat because defensively they rarely beat themselves. They play technically sound defense and BB will morph his defense to whatever it needs to be to play the Chiefs.

Now that Cam is there they've "all of a sudden" found WR's and he's still a load to bring down.

But, their DB's seem a step slower this season and they still can't rush with 4.

I fully expect them however to throw some different coverage looks at Mahomes that slows the Chiefs down enough to keep their slow-burn offense in the game till the end.

CupidStunt 09-29-2020 11:04 AM

The only team that can beat the Chiefs is the Chiefs.

Mecca 09-29-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15202982)
Patriots are still the biggest threat because defensively they rarely beat themselves. They play technically sound defense and BB will morph his defense to whatever it needs to be to play the Chiefs.

Now that Cam is there they've "all of a sudden" found WR's and he's still a load to bring down.

But, their DB's seem a step slower this season and they still can't rush with 4.

I fully expect them however to throw some different coverage looks at Mahomes that slows the Chiefs down enough to keep their slow-burn offense in the game till the end.

After playing Lamar, Cam will look like a dude running in the mud.

htismaqe 09-29-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15202982)
Patriots are still the biggest threat because defensively they rarely beat themselves. They play technically sound defense and BB will morph his defense to whatever it needs to be to play the Chiefs.

Now that Cam is there they've "all of a sudden" found WR's and he's still a load to bring down.

But, their DB's seem a step slower this season and they still can't rush with 4.

I fully expect them however to throw some different coverage looks at Mahomes that slows the Chiefs down enough to keep their slow-burn offense in the game till the end.

The back end of that defense isn't the same as in years past. They're vulnerable.


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