Could the Kansas City Chiefs beat the Buffalo Bills with Henne at QB?
 

This isn't a debate on whether Mahomes plays Sunday or not. Very potentially hypothetically speaking, could the Chiefs beat the Bills with Henne at QB?

Yes.

Any given Sunday and all that, but realistically no. It'd take a bunch of breaks going our way.

Henne thing is possible

Could? Obviously, yes they could.

Is it likely is the real question. That would be a no.

I think it depends on if CEH is able to play. A semi healthy CEH to go along with Williams could prove difficult to stop. (I don't expect anything out of Bell at this point)

As long as Henne does his best Alex Smith impression I'd say there is a chance.

If he throws a couple awful INT's then there's little hope.

I say no but it would be funnier than **** if we did

Yes because I don't think the Bills are honestly that good and Allen is fairly unproven. Still, I wouldn't give them better than a 15-20% chance of doing it with Henne. He's pretty bad.

probably yes. Most overrated team in the league with an average QB who only has stats because of Diggs.

Luckily King Mahomes will play and I predict it will be our easiest win of the season. Can't wait to see Pat relaxing on the sideline midway through the 4th quarter

We just watched BUF struggle to score 10 points against a BAL defense that we've put more than 100 points on in our last 3 consecutive meetings.

Yeah, a Henne-led KC offense could score enough to beat BUF. But it would have to be a nearly flawless performance by Henne, so no turnovers, no taking unnecessary sacks, etc. And the defense would have to play at least as well as they did yesterday, and we'd probably have to have a 100% healthy CEH and/or Watkins.

it would probably be a lot closer, like 24-20 or something like that, but sure it could be done.

Could we? Absolutely. Andy is a good enough schemer and play architect he could find a way to generate some offense and keep it close. Goodness knows Buffalo hasn’t look impressive on offense in the playoffs so far and their basically one dimensional at this point, which plays right into Spags hands.

But would still rather roll with that Mahomes guy.

Yes.

I'd rather it remain an unfulfilled and alternate reality.

Defense would have to ball out. Gotta figure 24 is our best case Henne ceiling, so would need to keep the Bills to 21 or less.

Yes they could.

It wouldn't be easy, but Chad would have the best supporting cast he's ever had. All he has to do is avoid the "big" mistakes. I can't imagine it wouldn't be a blow-out, but I think we could win by 3-8 points.

#HenneThingIsPossible (but no)

If Allen got hurt too yeah.

Of course we "could". We're not a college team led by Chad Henne at QB. If the defense forces turnovers and he doesn't throw any ducks on 1st and 25, we can pull it off.

My money would be on Buffalo, though. We all know the importance of the QB position in the playoffs. We had good teams with Alex Smith but could never get over the hump. Alex Smith was a lot better than Chad Henne.

Absurd comments.

Realistically no.

Henne showed some heart yesterday, but I just don't think he's very good. We'd have to get incredibly lucky.

Yeah like 2/10 times we could. With Pat its 8/10.

I'd say it swings from a healthy Mahomes-led team winning 7 or 8 times out of 10, to a Henne-led team winning maybe 3 times out of 10?

At the same time, there's been so much hype around them and the Browns, Ravens, etc.... and it's all been bullshit up to this point.

It's hard to give them more than a ~25-30% chance of winning in that case, but my mind is set on it being the freakin' AFCCG, and thinking Henne could lead them to the Super Bowl just doesn't compute. LMAO

Let's not **** around and find out.

They were outplayed and should have lost to a Phillip Rivers-led Colts team two weeks ago and Allen/the Bills offense did virtually nothing against the Ravens for most of the game this past week before relying on Lamar to throw a 100 yard pick six to win.

I'm glad you're so confident in them, though.

I think it would be a closer game than people would expect, but I think it's a long shot.

Maybe, but it would be very tough. Would need a A game from the defense and running game. Very little room for error.

Yeah, the Ravens had a more impressive regular season last year than the Bills this year and it didn't mean shit when it came to their playoff performance.

The Bills have the higher ceiling, but certainly haven't looked like it in the past couple weeks.

I'll laugh my ass off if they get steamrolled this weekend, because I really do want to believe it'll be a good game and that they're worth at least some of the hype.

:hmmm: CEH, Williams, Hill

Sure, we could. We'd need the running game to do great or some breaks to fall in our favor. Outside of that one awful pick, Henne has looked pretty functional.

Andy would find a way to scheme it up and keep it close, but a win would be difficult.

So it would essentially be the Chiefs playoff games of old.

Need the defense to do their thing and keep the score down and need big days from all the playmakers. Basically flawless ball otherwise. Which is doable. But won’t happen.

We’ve been down that road many times before. I’d rather not do it again.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chad Henne and <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cheetah</a> on their way to Arrowhead this morning like... <a href="https://t.co/RZQXeR5QBn">pic.twitter.com/RZQXeR5QBn</a></p>&mdash; ChiefsJayhawksRoyals (@CJR16255) <a href="https://twitter.com/CJR16255/status/1351139091740577802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think Henne gives us almost a coin flip to win. Buffalo should be favored but Reid has Buffalo beaters ready to go that Henne can run.

Use Tyreek, Kelce, CEH as chess pieces. Power inside zone runs, RPOs. Get our speed to attack Buffalo where they are soft in the middle of the field.

Spin Tremaine Edmunds like a top and have him go the wrong way over and over.

I think Mahomes is gonna play but if big dick Henne has to I’m sure Andy will have him ready.

I wonder if Josh Allen handles rain or snow games.

Chance of rain is in forecast for Sunday.

Seemed like the steady rain in the week 6 game impacted Allen's passing.

Allen has a great arm, but just because he played at Wyoming and plays for the Bills does not mean that he handles wet weather.

I don't know his track record, but he did not look great in week 6 against the Chiefs in the rain.

Close.

The correct pun is “Yes, Henne Given Sunday.”

My only worry would be that one of Josh Allen's wildly errant passes would hit Henne on the sidelines and knock him out of the game.

Ehhhhh.

They could, but I wouldn't put the percentage very high. Maybe 35-65 against.

Then they gotta deal with Mr. Moore. If Mahomes were to be out, I'd game plan to use both.

The Reigning Superbowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs are 68% to win. As is GB.

https://live.numberfire.com/nfl?week=20

Allen may borrow Carr's mascara

Um Allen had a higher completion percentage than Mahomes in the regular season

Carr was good for a year too

Allen has definitely improved his accuracy, but he was 14 completions in 27 attempts in week 6 against Chiefs in the rain.

If he were to win with Henne, the "Mahomes has better weapons" argument will fire up again real bad.

Henne had those weapons and scored 0 points in 1.5 quarters

Well I'm ****ing stupid then.

LMAO

No, I didn't mean it like that. I agree with your statement. I'm just saying the media of course seems to ignore the 0 points in 1.5 quarters.

And yet he still won.

Henne didn’t win that game. Come on.

Have you met Rain Man?

I love seeing the results of a good homer poll! Oh, and we never punted with Chad Henne at QB! Only 3 drives, FG, FG position but bad RSJ call, game killing drive!

That would be great, actually... maybe the narrative for the following 12 months wouldn't be finding Mahomes a rival and desperately finding upset picks, but more like... **** it, this team just won the AFC without Mahomes, you're all ****ed, the end.

Yes, but Andy would have to call the best game of his life.

Can we get a poll for "can the Chiefs beat the Bills with a MINI-Mahomes?" ala Bill Swerski's superfans?

Yes because our defense has shown to be pretty good against one dimensional offenses. Theirs is about as one dimensional as it gets an they don’t have the man beaters to consistently win in the passing game. That’s also why I’m not worried about this game at all if Mahomes plays.

There’s a reason Henne hasn’t started for anyone in like what, six years? There’s also a reason the Bills are in the AFC Championship as the #2 seed.

Andy Reid is good, but not good enough to have some Johnny Salami start at QB for him with five days of prep and beat Buffalo.

Obviously it would take a total team effort, an amazing game plan on both sides of the ball and nearly flawless execution, but it certainly wouldn't be impossible. It's not like the Bills are some juggernaut team loaded with playoff experience. They've barely won their two postseason games and looked far from dominant.

It's not a likely scenario, but with Reid and Spags running the show it's definitely not as improbable as the media would pretend it was. The Bills would likely pull it out but with a few breaks the Chiefs could easily get the W.

This isn't a one man show, and Sunday should have proven that. This entire team is full of warriors who can dig deeper than most units when they need to, not to mention we're lead by the best god damn head coach in football.

The Chiefs beat the Bills in the regular season by running the ball. CEH had as many runs as Mahomes had passes. Obviously the weather had an effect as did the presence of Mahomes making it so they had to at least respect the threat of a pass, but the Bills aren't the type of defense that gives the Chiefs fits.

It would be a hell of a lot harder and our defense would have to carry the load and not give up 30 points, but its doable. Wouldn't bet on it, though.

You would think the Chiefs would put up more than 17 on the Falcons as well. Ultimately, over 16 games, the Bills had a better point differential (126 vs. 111), a higher strength of schedule and strength of victory, so I think writing them off because you weren't impressed how they knocked off two 11-5 teams in the playoffs, their 8th straight win, is pretty weak.

Kansas City is the defending super bowl champion, we only lost one meaningful game this season, and we beat the bills

No one is writing them off, but you can't blame us for feeling confident

Don’t throw that ‘strength of schedule’ nonsense around here, dude. They had Jets, Pats, and Miami twice each, and came out King Shit of Turd Mountain; then Denver, Chargers, Niners (lol) and Cards with the Great Gazoo at QB. The Steelers are a hollow shell of their former selves.

I respect Buffalo a great deal, and they belong in the Championship— but KC defeated far better opponents this year.

I think we could. With a full week of reps with the #1s, Andy could make Henne be decent.

Could they yes

Voted YES, of course... but as most others have admitted, it would take a superlative effort in every facet of the game

The good news, is that we almost certainly don't have to worry about it because Mahomes wasn't concussed... his head never banged off the turf

The carotid artery theory talked about all day here is the only explanation that makes any sense at all... he was dragged to the ground by his neck in, basically, a reverse chokehold

I actually think the helmet pushed on that artery by the way the tackler hooked his arm around it..

Doesn't really matter exactly if it was the artery or the nerve; both run right along the side of the neck. Press hard enough, and the lights go out. The only reason that I think it was more of the carotid is that I'm more familiar with this, and the fact that Andy said "he got the breath knocked out of him," which is kind of how it feels when someone closes one of your carotids for you.

It would take:

- a great scheme by Reid
- the running game to improve
- a lights out performance by the defense

So yes it’s possible but not probable.

Would also take, IMO, the healthy and successful return of CEH to the lineup - something I’m not close to convinced would happen before the Super Bowl

GET ****ED!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe, but they would have to play a perfect game with defensive and or special teams scores

Yeah man, just watching it over and over convinced me its not a concussion

The only possible way it was, is if Wilsons initial contact coming into the side of Pats head was the moment... it was from the side and maybe could've been on the button

But I sincerely doubt thats what it was... in all my years watching this game, it just didn't look like a concussion at all

The opening lines ranged from Chiefs -4 to Bills -2.5, before setting at Kansas City -3 Monday morning.

If Mahomes is ruled out and backup Chad Henne starts against the Bills, Murray expects Buffalo to become the favorite. One oddsmaker at the SuperBook projected Buffalo to be as much as a 7-point favorite.



-espn

No.

Yes I do. If it is Henne, I would run a QB boot on the first play, to really get the crowd into it. It will take a strong effort by the defense, (aka complimentary football) and CEH or Sammy back to spread the offensive load

Henne isn't mobile enough to play behind our shitty offensive line.

Fisher is the only starter left playing. The rest are rotational scrubs. We need a guy that can move around. We will run the ball more with Henne under center, but I doubt it will last all game long.

Bills will load the the LOS and force Henne to win passing the ball.

Henne can do the RPO game too. If Buffalo send its LB's as they have been recently that just makes more wide open space for Henne to throw it over their head.

Or go 4-wide, and leave Kahlen Saunders in the backfield as Henne's personal protector to clean up any free rushers