The Official Kansas Thrashing Baylor thread
 

at least they better :harumph:

a key season indicator game considering it's baylor

how they rebound from loss and t'will be interesting to see if KU's problems really are JUST effort like Self says.

Baylor is improved from years past, and next year they will be a good team IMO. However, I think this KU team is PISSED...and will win by 15+.

Has Rich Scanlon joined the team yet?

Rumor on the Star BB was that he was going to be in Lawrence this week and might be ready for this game.

yea... but i'm worried that "pissed" isn't the answer



no offensive sets executed, no fast break plan and bad shot selection isn't going to be solved by more energy and being pissed.


imo discipline, polish and gameplan seems to be the real issue.

Agreed 100%.

They need to recruit more players from Poland.

So basically everything, eh?

Glad to see there are quite a few KU fans in Waco.

7-0 KU.

no, not everything


i think KU is mentally tough and scrappy ... they have talent and heart

they are also pretty tough on defense


all good things




but the haphazard way they run their offense is pretty bad. They don't seem to have any "feel" for passing and what the other guys are going to do.

is that because Self is all defense and attitude and we don't have much of an offense???

i don't know ... but it's ugly regardless



not to mention almost the complete ignoring of fast break basketball.


KU's fast break game consists almost completely of giving the ball to miles and letting him drive the length of the floor. Every once in awhile they try that "long bomb" pass... but that just sucks.

ROFL You're the Dan Dierdorf of college basketball analysts....

Langford nails a 3. 15-2 KU

Langford with the rebound, Simien misses.

Alec you pussy. You are only a few hours from Waco. Why aren't you at the game?

Bob Dole farted. Still 15-2.

Dude, Waco is like 8 hours away from here.

Houston?

Kaun on the alley oop, 19-6 KU

Lazy passing.

more passing on offense :clap: :clap:

Lee with the rebound, Swanson fouls Lee. Offensive foul on Kaun, Baylor ball.

Yep.

19-10 KU, Baylor on a bit of a run, Biggers gets a foul on Simien.

Simien makes both foul shots.

Simien makes a helluva defensive play, KU ball back, someone shot a three but I didnt see, 24-10 KU

Total Est. Time: 3 hours, 42 minutes Total Est. Distance: 186.06 miles

Houston to Waco.

Simien throws it away, Bruce sinks a duece in transition. 24-14 KU

Hawkins turns around and nails a three from the top of the key.

Nevermind the 2 hour drive to and through Houston.

Sorry, its SIX hours to Waco and i have a job.

Jeff Hawkins sighting!

Houston is rough. You live in the most inconvienent place for a college sports fan.

Gotta switch back and forth now between the :ksu: womens game and this game.

When the hell did Jeff Hawkins start knockin down 3's ?????

Im just a college basketball fan. I dont like any other college sports. U of H has some good games here and I go to them on occasion.

If I liked baseball, there would be Rice downtown, they got a good baseball team.

Who cares, Im just glad he is!

Giddens, airball, pretty embarrassing for him, well not really, he should be used to it by now.

27-15 btw

If you dont leave in the dead of rush hour traffic you can make it in about 3-3.5 hours or so if you started in downtown Houston.

Oh Miles is a fucking stud.

actually Hawkins was supposed to be a pretty good shooter when he came to the team. He just couldn't do that other stuff to get onto the court.

another brick because the just didnt know what to do on offense :shake:

I live in Dickinson and work in Clear Lake, which is south of Houston. I get off work at 5 pm and unfortunately I am not able to just leave work whenever I choose to. Its a good thing because I would likely rarely work in such circumstances, instead choosing to stay home and smoke bud and surf the internet, however my job is not so cool as I can do all that.

:sigh: I was hoping KU ended up in teh Austin division in the tourney, but right now it doesnt look like it (according to ESPN Bracketology). We'll see though, maybe I can make it to one of those games.

Miles for 3, 30-19 KU

That Bracketology thing is about as accurate as me predicting the fields right now. Don't worry, Alec. If KU plays well and garners a top (1 or 2 seed) they will end up wherever they can make the most money...ie, Austin or Chicago. The closest regions.

Personally i'd like to see them seeded in Indianapolis in the early rounds. I've got friends there I could stay with if I decided to go to a game.

Yep leaving from there would completly suck. And then when you get their you are in shitty ass Waco.

Heheh

Hawkins nails his 3rd 3

I want KU to kick UNCs ass in the tourney.

fuck DenFan and his arrogance.

Haha. The students were chanting "VILLA-NOVA!"

41-26 KU, 13.7 seconds Baylor ball

Damn, almost made a fast break to get the last points. 41-26 at the half.

Like I said..15 points. So far my prediction is right on track. ...So far.

Hopefully Baylor will get tired.

Wow..that's funny. Especially since Baylor has never lost a game.

Hey..give credit where credit is due. College students are pretty creative.

You call THAT creative.....


:spock:



I guess about as much as chanting air-ball after one is shot.

damned KU game on the radio screwing up my listening to Savage :bang: :cuss:

I wonder if OUR students would yell something like "player was a murderer" ?? Our old favorite 4 syllable chant was "lick my ball-sack". I used to laugh when the opposing teams would yell "harry potter" at Heinrich when he was here.

At the MU game we yelled "****ing Cheaters". I guess thats not too creative. My favorite "chant" is the famous "left, right, left, right..etc etc" thread when someone fouls out.

Oh heck, we had a TON of 'em for MU but I cant think of any right off hand.

oh, and by the way: 7:26 to go and KU is up by 19pts. Ho hum.

16 3 pointers made...bejesus.

86-66 Final. Like I said..KU was pissed.


It helps that Baylor sucks.

Hahah, the funny part was the reeruns kept yelling it after he made a NBN 3-pointer.

KU sure tried alot harder to run an offense in this game ... i'm glad



looked rusty, but they need to keep trying ... by tourney time maybe they will have it together.

WTF? They make 16 3 pointers and they are rusty? Their inside game could have used a little polish, but they scored 86 points....

You KU fans are NEVER pleased! :)

Well, I guess I understand. Hawkins only has one good game a year, and this was it.

the "Rust" i was talking about was when they were trying to actually run and offense.... not when they were jacking up 3's all over the place.


ya Mildcat punk!! :loser:



:p

RR didn't play at all?

I can't believe he's benched for Hawkins. Long term, that is bad news for KU.

We're going to need RR in the tourny.

Didn't he get his cornea scratched in teh Kentucky game? He hasn't played much since then.

Self is also pretty consistent about not playing guys who have not practiced well. Maybe he's had a bad week of practices.

seems like self has pretty much given up on a true high-low offense.



he had a big man running the baseline for possible lob pass tonight

This is one of the strangest KU teams of late to figure out.

They have the talent.

Saturdays performance against Villanova was just one of those any given days.

The performance tonight was not stellar by any means, KU was hot outside tonight, if we would of had a cold night shooting, it would have been single digits win /loss.

Wow what a game, 16 3-Pointers a new team record, and what a game by Jeff Hawkins, Damn.

I don't think it was due to just hot shooting. They made the extra pass tonight. They also played better on the defensive end. Giddens, for the most part, didn't jack up everything. He waited for the good shot. I would like to see more transition easy buckets and better rebounding, though. But all in all, KU crushed a team that they should've crushed. They played as a team in doing so.

I'm also seeing him go to the motion offense as well. Thank god, that Hi-Lo sucks.

yep ... i hope they continue to try on the offense end



They must keep passing and moving without the ball. It will really start paying off in the long run. Soon they will get better at it and the offense will really start to develop.

Ditto.

A quote from Langford that pretty much backs up what I said last night:

And Self said:

Source

FYI, KU fans
 

That's the most effective offense in basketball IMO. The key is to have guards and forwards who aren't afraid to attack the basket. When the D collapses, kick it out for the open jump shot. Coach K has built a career on it at Duke.

Anyone remember the Texas Tech game last year? KU was in the middle of their identity crisis, but went on the road and put up like 90 points on Texas Tech (they might have hit a hundred :shrug: ). I haven't watched the Baylor game yet, but that was the type of game I was hoping to see from them last night. Doesn't sound like it was that good, but it's nice that there's a new level of focus on the offensive side of the ball, while getting back to good defense.

I've gotten used to the hi-lo, but I totally agree with the statement that they really need to concentrate on moving without the ball. They really get into trouble when they try to just force the ball inside.

Eh... a couple of weeks ago WF lost to FSU in OT because a WF player couldn't hit a couple of free throws to put FSU out of reach. Last weekend, a similar situation happened with that same WF player on the line at Cincy. The Cincy fans started doing the tomahawk chop.

Now that was funny.

KU needs to run the motion and hi-low , mix it up. It all starts with the guards, either offense.

Outside in, inside out, it doesn't matter if the guards don't penatrate, move around and able to hit the outside shot. If they aren't able to hit the outside, the defense will continue to collapse the middle.

My post about figure them out was this, thay have talent, they have the offense, they play better defense than most of the teams of the past.

Do the players have the desire and the heart or the belief that being in 2 of the last 3 Final Fours is going to get them there ?

Oh, no question they do.... however, they are just college kids, and they know it's a long season. We probably would have lost to Villanova had we played well.

It seemed like we were sleepwalking last year, and then we ended up peaking at the right time.