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Buster's Dad 01-27-2005 06:49 PM

I am being laid off tomorrow
 
Although I am semi-retired, I was working 20 -25 hrs a week at the local hardware store. Yesterday they informed me that as of Fri. I was gone, business to slow they said.
Last spring we got the same story from the boss, we all deserved raises, buT due to business being slow he was cutting everyone's hours, cut a total of 40 to 50 hrs off of the entire crew.
2 days later he shows up driving a new $36,000.00 g.m.c pick-up pulling a new $18000.00 Lund boat, needless to say there were some very pissed off employees.
So I guess I will just putter around the house till something else pops up.

Mr. Laz 01-27-2005 06:49 PM

that sucks ... sorry to hear it :(

Phobia 01-27-2005 06:55 PM

That sucks for you. Really, it does. I hope you find something else.

But he's the boss. He assumes all the risk and liability.

A $36k and $18k boat really aren't really wasteful. He could have taken it much further than that. Maybe his store isn't profitable, but he had a windfall elsewhere. You shouldn't dwell upon your former bosses belongings. Look at the big picture.

morphius 01-27-2005 06:56 PM

Did someone paint "My Employee's Raises" on the boat?

PastorMikH 01-27-2005 07:28 PM

That stinks. Not a lot of part time jobs around Scott City either I bet. You could drive into Garden a day or two a week and work at his competition across the street from walmart.

PastorMikH 01-27-2005 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

A $36k and $18k boat really aren't really wasteful.


You haven't been to SW Kansas have you? He will need the new pickup to haul the boat those long distances to water.

Over-Head 01-27-2005 07:55 PM

Sorry to hear the news.

Try taking a hobby and making a "part time" out of it. :thumb:
I worked for a man like that once just after I came off the road from long haul trucking,,,
He paid $38,000 CASH (my better half's god son works at the dealership) for a 5th whell trailer, to pull behind his 2002 Chev duley, (his 2001 had 22,000 miles on it so it quote un quote "had to go, too many miles on it")
Then I worked for another guy who "never made a dime more then his men" but paid CASH (the bass plaer in my band workes at teh Harley shop) for a 2004 Harley soft tail.
Then I said to m'self...why the hell are you working for someone else anyway?
Didn't grandpa always say.."you'll never do more than get by if ANOTHER MAN signs your pay cheque"
He was right,,,the first year is a bit rough, but after that it's all good.

Buster's Dad 01-27-2005 08:17 PM

Phob, I don't worry abut his belongings, I just resent being lied to every time we turned around, he used the boat once in may, been setting in the shed since then.
Pastor mike you are right not much here in scott city for part time, but I did set up my retirement where I really didn't have to work, he wanted me to come there and work. My wife works at Hastings Books in Garden city since she retired from teaching last spring.
I think I just go ahead and get my back fixed, somthing I should of done a while back.

go bo 01-27-2005 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head
Sorry to hear the news.

Try taking a hobby and making a "part time" out of it. :thumb:
I worked for a man like that once just after I came off the road from long haul trucking,,,
He paid $38,000 CASH (my better half's god son works at the dealership) for a 5th whell trailer, to pull behind his 2002 Chev duley, (his 2001 had 22,000 miles on it so it quote un quote "had to go, too many miles on it")
Then I worked for another guy who "never made a dime more then his men" but paid CASH (the bass plaer in my band workes at teh Harley shop) for a 2004 Harley soft tail.
Then I said to m'self...why the hell are you working for someone else anyway?
Didn't grandpa always say.."you'll never do more than get by if ANOTHER MAN signs your pay cheque"
He was right,,,the first year is a bit rough, but after that it's all good.

what business are you in?

do you run a deep sea fishing boat or something? :shrug:

Phobia 01-27-2005 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH
You haven't been to SW Kansas have you? He will need the new pickup to haul the boat those long distances to water.

My point is that the bossman didn't really go nuts on the purchases. If his boat and truck were ice cream, he'd have bought the store brand on sale rather than the Breyers deluxe....

go bo 01-27-2005 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
My point is that the bossman didn't really go nuts on the purchases. If his boat and truck were ice cream, he'd have bought the store brand on sale rather than the Breyers deluxe....

mmmmmm...

ice cream... :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

dtebbe 01-27-2005 08:40 PM

Something I learned a long time ago is not to let your employees see your toys.... it's hard for me, because my boat, racing karts, and 4 wheelers are all stored at my warehouse. I have a fettish for vehicles and some toys, but I buy everyting used for the most part, and I almost always buy at a price where I can drive something a year or two and get what I paid out of it, or I don't buy it.

I would relax a little on the truck, it was a very good business decision. With the tax loopholes right now that truck was 40% off, and you get to take that the first year. So his $38k truck cost him $22k, and if he didn't do that he would have paid that 40% to the IRS anyway. Now, you give me a choice of paying the IRS $15k and getting nothing, or paying the Ford/Chevy dealer $22k and getting a new truck, I'll take the new truck ANY day.. and I'm sure you would too. So let off on the truck deal, it's a non issue.

The boat is another story, but it's his money.

I 2nd the notion.. if you don't like it take the risk and start your own business.

DT

Skip Towne 01-27-2005 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
My point is that the bossman didn't really go nuts on the purchases. If his boat and truck were ice cream, he'd have bought the store brand on sale rather than the Breyers deluxe....

Are you kidding? 36K for a Chevy pickup? Granted, I haven't bought one for awhile but I can't believe they cost that much.

Over-Head 01-27-2005 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo
what business are you in?

do you run a deep sea fishing boat or something? :shrug:

No I started a Plaster and painting company (I owned J&J Dry-Wall back in the late 80's with my dad, and got out of it due to lack of work at the time) which is flourishing quite well.

My hobby was music, my passion is drumming, which gets me about $200 a weekend playing ROFL

Boozer 01-27-2005 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Are you kidding? 36K for a Chevy pickup? Granted, I haven't bought one for awhile but I can't believe they cost that much.

{Insert obligatory "Yeah, and a chocolate bar was only a penny" joke here.}

|Zach| 01-27-2005 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtebbe

I 2nd the notion.. if you don't like it take the risk and start your own business.

DT

Yep, something a lot of people don't understand is the person that takes that risk and liability is the last one to be paid. When things are starting out and even a good period of time into a business that is doing well everything else is taken care of and sometimes there isn't a whole lot of money left to the owner. If it gets to the point where you can some toys from the success of your enterprise then more power to you. Enjoy it bc if you are in that position you earned it.

Phobia 01-27-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Are you kidding? 36K for a Chevy pickup? Granted, I haven't bought one for awhile but I can't believe they cost that much.

Obviously, that's a loaded Silverado or comperable. But you can easily spend high 40's on a pickup these days.

Dodge has a V10 perfomance Ram they're selling for over $40k base price.

jjjayb 01-27-2005 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Are you kidding? 36K for a Chevy pickup? Granted, I haven't bought one for awhile but I can't believe they cost that much.

Guess you haven't looked at a 1 ton Diesel lately. Got 50 grand laying around?

|Zach| 01-27-2005 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb
Guess you haven't looked at a 1 ton Diesel lately. Got 50 grand laying around?

Hold on, lemme check.

Phobia 01-27-2005 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC
Yep, something a lot of people don't understand is the person that takes that risk and liability is the last one to be paid.

Like when a customer left me with a $16k dent in my wallet last summer. My people got paid out of my pocket. They don't see that part. They only want to look at the new, shiny tools and think I'm raking it in. Not so. One day I will be, but right now all my extra money goes into building my business.

Any of you people want to bitch about your boss, go check into what running a half page ad in the yellow pages costs. Check what insurance costs.

PastorMikH 01-27-2005 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Are you kidding? 36K for a Chevy pickup? Granted, I haven't bought one for awhile but I can't believe they cost that much.


Guy here at the church has been holding off on a truck himself. He's looking for a 1 ton Ford extended cab with the Duramax Diesel. Even used but newer/low mileage, he's looking at close to 30k for it.

|Zach| 01-27-2005 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Like when a customer left me with a $16k dent in my wallet last summer. My people got paid out of my pocket. They don't see that part. They only want to look at the new, shiny tools and think I'm raking it in. Not so. One day I will be, but right now all my extra money goes into building my business.

Any of you people want to bitch about your boss, go check into what running a half page ad in the yellow pages costs. Check what insurance costs.

Yup, thats only the start...you and my old man could go on for days im sure. ROFL

PastorMikH 01-27-2005 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
go check into what running a half page ad in the yellow pages costs.



NO STINKIN' KIDDING!!!!


Talk about highway robbery! We had a little podink SW Bell book here that wasn't a half inch wide wanting $300 a year out of the church for a 1 inch space. Then they tried to tell me the deal I was passing up when I told them that perhaps the last Pastor paid it, but we weren't.

Over-Head 01-27-2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Like when a customer left me with a $16k dent in my wallet last summer. My people got paid out of my pocket. They don't see that part. They only want to look at the new, shiny tools and think I'm raking it in. Not so. One day I will be, but right now all my extra money goes into building my business.

Any of you people want to bitch about your boss, go check into what running a half page ad in the yellow pages costs. Check what insurance costs.


ya forgot juggling accounts so the "employiees get paid", or the ever present "suplier who wants HIS cash in 30 days, even though he pay's his own bill's on 90 or 120

Phobia 01-27-2005 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH
NO STINKIN' KIDDING!!!!


Talk about highway robbery! We had a little podink SW Bell book here that wasn't a half inch wide wanting $300 a year out of the church for a 1 inch space. Then they tried to tell me the deal I was passing up when I told them that perhaps the last Pastor paid it, but we weren't.

They want $300 a MONTH for the same space in KC.

A half page ad costs $1500 a month. That's $18k per year. I can't imagine what SWB gets in a large city.

KC Jones 01-27-2005 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Like when a customer left me with a $16k dent in my wallet last summer. My people got paid out of my pocket. They don't see that part. They only want to look at the new, shiny tools and think I'm raking it in. Not so. One day I will be, but right now all my extra money goes into building my business.

Any of you people want to bitch about your boss, go check into what running a half page ad in the yellow pages costs. Check what insurance costs.

:thumb:

More power to you. Frankly I'm amazed that you've undertaken starting your own business while you've got young kids. I keep thinking about starting my own biz, but I'm not sure what I want to do and I have no idea how I'd put food on the table while it starts out. :shrug:

Spott 01-27-2005 10:15 PM

You might want to start thinking about which power tools you can swipe from work since you know that you're getting canned tomorrow.

Manila-Chief 01-27-2005 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Obviously, that's a loaded Silverado or comperable. But you can easily spend high 40's on a pickup these days.

Dodge has a V10 perfomance Ram they're selling for over $40k base price.

Yikes!!! And my wife said she wants a pickumup truck in retirement.... maybe this will change her mind????

Phobia 01-27-2005 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief
Yikes!!! And my wife said she wants a pickumup truck in retirement.... maybe this will change her mind????

She can still get an affordable truck. My F-150 was roughly $20k. It's nothing special. I need a bigger truck, but this one would suit the needs of most people.

Phobia 01-27-2005 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones
:thumb:

More power to you. Frankly I'm amazed that you've undertaken starting your own business while you've got young kids. I keep thinking about starting my own biz, but I'm not sure what I want to do and I have no idea how I'd put food on the table while it starts out. :shrug:

Well, I've always had my own business. For a lot of years it was computer related, but 2 years ago, I fell back on construction.

crossbow 01-27-2005 10:34 PM

I have been in danger of losing my job several times because my company has lost the accounts I was on. It allways worked out. It has also allways been for the better. Keep your head up. If you have enough good karma in your life account you will be O.K.

Skip Towne 01-27-2005 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Obviously, that's a loaded Silverado or comperable. But you can easily spend high 40's on a pickup these days.

Dodge has a V10 perfomance Ram they're selling for over $40k base price.

I bought a new loaded Silverado (equivalent) in '87 for $13,000. Apparently the inflation rate is 300% since then.

PastorMikH 01-27-2005 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
They want $300 a MONTH for the same space in KC.

A half page ad costs $1500 a month. That's $18k per year. I can't imagine what SWB gets in a large city.



Actually, our rate was for a non-for-profit organization.


Newspaper adds are even worse too. I'd hate to see what radio and tv adds would run. Advertising is a killer, but you have got to do it from time to time.

Rain Man 01-27-2005 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC
Yep, something a lot of people don't understand is the person that takes that risk and liability is the last one to be paid. When things are starting out and even a good period of time into a business that is doing well everything else is taken care of and sometimes there isn't a whole lot of money left to the owner. If it gets to the point where you can some toys from the success of your enterprise then more power to you. Enjoy it bc if you are in that position you earned it.

Yep. It takes an enormous amount of risk tolerance. Even though my company's becoming well-established, the worry about covering payroll each month is always there.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-27-2005 10:53 PM

Why did I look at this thread and thought it said, "I am getting laid tomorrow."

Inspector 01-27-2005 10:54 PM

Good luck Buster's dad.

Seems to be lots of layoffs all over. We canned a bunch at the end of 2004 and are getting ready for another round later this year - in our department. Other parts of the company just laid off more this week.

Eventually they will get me too.

BigRedChief 01-27-2005 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dtebbe
Something I learned a long time ago is not to let your employees see your toys.... DT

How about showing me those lower bowl season tickets?:thumb:

ShortRoundChief 01-28-2005 02:25 AM

I would rather be reading a story about you being laid tomorrow. Damn that off.

Hope it all works good for you.

ShortRoundChief 01-28-2005 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspector
Good luck Buster's dad.

Seems to be lots of layoffs all over. We canned a bunch at the end of 2004 and are getting ready for another round later this year - in our department. Other parts of the company just laid off more this week.

Eventually they will get me too.


If you hide well enough they will never find you. If they do and you hide their bodies well enough then it will never matter.

KcMizzou 01-28-2005 03:15 AM

Sorry to hear it man... I hope something better comes along for you soon.

KcMizzou 01-28-2005 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mizzou5
You might want to start thinking about which power tools you can swipe from work since you know that you're getting canned tomorrow.

Heh.. good point. And here I was... thinkin about how you could just coast through the day.

"What are they gonna do? Fire me?!?"


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