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NJ Chief Fan 04-20-2005 11:53 AM

What about pat ramsey
 
just read that the skins are lookin to draft the qb cambell out of auburn in the first round...i think the chiefs should try and pick up ramsey as the qb of the future

Hammock Parties 04-20-2005 11:54 AM

I'm a big fan.

jcroft 04-20-2005 11:57 AM

If he came cheap, he'd be worth a shot. But, he really hasn't shown that much yet in the NFL -- I'm sure as hell not giving up anywhere near the 1st round pick the Redskins used on him.

If they cut him, hell yes. If they'll unload him for a late-rounder or Johnnie Morton, yes. Otherwise, no thanks.

jspchief 04-20-2005 12:00 PM

Patrick Ramsey? Are you kidding?

Bob Dole 04-20-2005 12:04 PM

Patrick Ramsey is a pretty good tackling dummy.

NJ Chief Fan 04-20-2005 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by badbobby
Patrick Ramsey is a pretty good tackling dummy.

with our o-line he wouldnt be as much of a tacking dummy now would he?

he actually has some decent numbers...33 career tds to 28 ints...you have to put into consideration that his oline is garbage...just look at clinton "im the most over rater rb ever" portis...he struggled to average 4.0 yards a carry this season

Bob Dole 04-20-2005 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ Chief Fan
with our o-line he wouldnt be as much of a tacking dummy now would he?

Probably not, but it wouldn't be nearly as funny.

Frankie 04-20-2005 12:34 PM

I'm all for getting him fairly cheap. :thumb:

Hammock Parties 04-20-2005 12:38 PM

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I signed him in year 4 or 5 of my Madden franchise and he's quite the HOF shoo-in:

King_Chief_Fan 04-20-2005 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ Chief Fan
just read that the skins are lookin to draft the qb cambell out of auburn in the first round...i think the chiefs should try and pick up ramsey as the qb of the future

MEDIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jcroft 04-20-2005 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs
I signed him in year 4 or 5 of my Madden franchise and he's quite the HOF shoo-in:

In that case, we should go ahead and trade two first rounders for him.

patteeu 04-20-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft
If he came cheap, he'd be worth a shot. But, he really hasn't shown that much yet in the NFL -- I'm sure as hell not giving up anywhere near the 1st round pick the Redskins used on him.

If they cut him, hell yes. If they'll unload him for a late-rounder or Johnnie Morton, yes. Otherwise, no thanks.

Same here.

Chris Meck 04-20-2005 12:59 PM

if he's cheap, sure.

whtgldwldr 04-20-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by badbobby
Patrick Ramsey is a pretty good tackling dummy.


Thats alot of money for a tackling dummy...plus we'd have to paint a target on him or else our "defense" couldn't hit him...

Frankie 04-20-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by whtgldwldr
Thats alot of money for a tackling dummy...plus we'd have to paint a target on him or else our "defense" couldn't hit him...

I don't remember draft stuff about Ramsey's mobility (or lack thereof). But Green is not considered a mobile QB and he does well behind our O-line.

I really think PR needs a new start.

buddha 04-20-2005 02:41 PM

What has Ramsey showed since coming to the NFL that would lead anybody to think he is any good? They brought in a broken down Brunell because they felt so good about him!

jcroft 04-20-2005 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha
What has Ramsey showed since coming to the NFL that would lead anybody to think he is any good? They brought in a broken down Brunell because they felt so good about him!

I agree completely. There is no reason to think that Ramsey is going to be anything other than a another first round bust.

But, he does have some talent and does have a crappy offensive line there in Washington. I'd still take a flyer on him if it came cheaply and see what a fresh start with a better line could do for him. He's got to have more talent than most late-round picks we could make at QB.

ChiefsCountry 04-20-2005 03:12 PM

Of course this is the Washington Redskins, they bring in new players like people change underwear.

Sure-Oz 04-20-2005 03:29 PM

If we can get him cheap id say go for it.

Gravedigger 04-20-2005 03:38 PM

heh...... your... joking.... right? yeah lets get pat ramsey and maurice clarett while were at it.

andoman 04-20-2005 04:31 PM

I saw Ramsey play a couple of times with the Redskins. I think the kid has leadership skills and is pretty tough. Couldn't tell if he had any talent 'cause he never had more than a couple of seconds to get rid of the ball.

eazyb81 04-20-2005 04:34 PM

I would take him in a second if we could get him for a 3rd or less. He has a cannon for an arm and has a ton of potential, he just needs to get away from the blackhole known as the Redskins front office.

jcroft 04-20-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81
I would take him in a second if we could get him for a 3rd or less. He has a cannon for an arm and has a ton of potential, he just needs to get away from the blackhole known as the Redskins front office.

And the vanishing act known as the Redskins' offensive line.

eazyb81 04-20-2005 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft
And the vanishing act known as the Redskins' offensive line.

And the idiotic coaches that actually believed a 34 year old Mark Brunell was a better choice at QB then Ramsey.

Deberg_1990 04-20-2005 05:04 PM

I think he is decent and worth picking up to develop as long as the cost isnt too high. Hes got a strong arm, and ive seen him play a few decent games. Maybe Shea and Saunders could make something out of him.

Frankie 04-21-2005 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
Of course this is the Washington Redskins, they bring in new players like people change underwear.

The Redskins bring in new players once a month?

Frankie 04-21-2005 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
If we can get him cheap id say go for it.

That's the idea.

Gibbs is treating him like an unwanted bastard child and he may revive his career under our QB coach and behind our O-line. There's another Redskin reject who's not doing too badly for us as a QB, you know.

homey 04-21-2005 07:47 AM

Behind a good o-line Ramsey could accell. I think a lot of people have the image of him getting no protection in the "fun and gun" offense Spurrier and not really getting a chance.

Frankie 04-21-2005 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by andoman
I saw Ramsey play a couple of times with the Redskins. I think the kid has leadership skills and is pretty tough. Couldn't tell if he had any talent 'cause he never had more than a couple of seconds to get rid of the ball.

AS IN TRENT GREEN? :thumb: I think that's the first and most important requirement. I believe our offensive coaching staff can do the rest.

Frankie 04-21-2005 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81
I would take him in a second if we could get him for a 3rd or less. He has a cannon for an arm and has a ton of potential, he just needs to get away from the blackhole known as the Redskins front office.

For his resume, 3rd is a bit risky. But a 4th? :hmmm:

Frankie 04-21-2005 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by homey
Behind a good o-line Ramsey could accell. I think a lot of people have the image of him getting no protection in the "fun and gun" offense Spurrier and not really getting a chance.

Exactly! :thumb: (Since I think you wanted to say excel ;) )

the Talking Can 04-21-2005 07:56 AM

Ramsey would be great if got him off the scrap heap for cheap.

I couldn't believe they brought in Brunell last year. I was impressed with his toughness watching him play a couple of years ago, behind a terrible OL.

Nightfyre 04-21-2005 08:52 AM

I think Ramsey would be great option. Look at it this way, he could come in and get some tutelage from a QB of very similar style in Trent Green. I also think if Ramsey had a line in front of him.... I mean, just look at the decline in Portis' numbers to see how porous the redskins line is.... Geez, and he moved to a weak conference/division to boot.

Frankie 04-21-2005 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre
I think Ramsey would be great option. Look at it this way, he could come in and get some tutelage from a QB of very similar style in Trent Green. I also think if Ramsey had a line in front of him.... I mean, just look at the decline in Portis' numbers to see how porous the redskins line is.... Geez, and he moved to a weak conference/division to boot.

Excellent point.

eazyb81 04-21-2005 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie
For his resume, 3rd is a bit risky. But a 4th? :hmmm:

Well, he was a 1st round draft pick in 2002, so I wouldn't say a 3rd is too much for him. He also had 62% completion percentage last year, so it's obvious he can throw.

Remember, we did give up a 1st and a 5th rounder for Trent Green who had been a starter for only 1 1/2 seasons.

Cormac 04-21-2005 11:06 AM

I think Ramsay would be a good option too. He never had a chance under Spurrier. The fact that Spurrier's offense was soooo bad in Washington isn't Ramsay's fault. Then, old school Joe Gibbs came in and didn't want to struggle with a young QB. Brunell couldn't hack it, and Ramsay showed himself to be the better option, even against Gibbs' bias. I don't think Ramsay can be fairly evaluated as an NFL player, yet. He could do well given a fresh start, and for that reason I'd like to get him for a mid-rounder. He's no guarantee to succeed, but what mid-round QB is? At the very least, he'd have much more upside as back-up than Todd "dink-dunk-INT" Collins. Sorry Rausch.....:p

Frankie 04-21-2005 11:36 AM

Maybe we should use Carl's e-mail address from the other thread and plant this idea in his head.

King_Chief_Fan 04-21-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cormac
I think Ramsay would be a good option too. He never had a chance under Spurrier. The fact that Spurrier's offense was soooo bad in Washington isn't Ramsay's fault. Then, old school Joe Gibbs came in and didn't want to struggle with a young QB. Brunell couldn't hack it, and Ramsay showed himself to be the better option, even against Gibbs' bias. I don't think Ramsay can be fairly evaluated as an NFL player, yet. He could do well given a fresh start, and for that reason I'd like to get him for a mid-rounder. He's no guarantee to succeed, but what mid-round QB is? At the very least, he'd have much more upside as back-up than Todd "dink-dunk-INT" Collins. Sorry Rausch.....:p

The professional clip board holder will retire someday.........I say go after the guy and have our CBHOTF.

Frankie 04-21-2005 11:19 PM

Have the night planeteers seen this thread?

Dunit35 04-21-2005 11:55 PM

I'd be for it....for cheap that is....I'd hope hes better then our future guy right now...Casey Clausen

Frankie 04-21-2005 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunit35
I'd be for it....for cheap that is....I'd hope hes better then our future guy right now...Casey Clausen

I have no doubt he is.


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