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Just a hunch
I have no inside information from my connections with kcchiefs.com, but I can't help but think that something fairly big is going on between the Chiefs and the Dolphins. I really wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs not only ended up with Surtain, but also the Dolphins first round pick. It could involve more draft picks this year as well as one of our expendable safeties in a trade.
Just a gut feeling. What do you think? And I think they'd take Derrick Johnson with that 1st round pick. Something tells me they really want this guy. |
If Carl pulled off a whiz-bang of a deal like that, I'd forgive him FUEVAH!
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Nice thoughts, likely to happen, NO!! I'd love to be proven wrong though, tomorrow and saturday will be interesting, is the board ready for it?
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That would be neat.
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I have a hunch that the Fins and Chiefs are going to do this...
Chiefs send: 2nd Rd. Pick Larry Johnson Brad Budde Emile Harry and Dino Hackett Dolphins send: Surtain the 2nd pick Super Duper and David Shula. |
If they get the Dolphins 1st round pick I would consider selecting Edwards instead of Johnson.
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Nothing that good is going to happen. Carl, remember?
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Johnson or Rolle would have to be the pick at 2. |
If we had two firsts I'd want us to draft a wide receiver, too.
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Please keep our forums clean. You could say that aliens have agreed to a sign and trade deal with the Frankfurt Rhein, and preface it with "Just a hunch" |
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Surtain and two firsts, for Edwards and Rogers? Complete poppycock of course, but we can dream... |
I don't see how we could trade up to the #2 pick anyway, we don't have enough picks and quality ones.
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If we got their #2, I imagine we'd have to give up the 15 pick to get up there. If we were to do that, I'd definitely turn right around and be talking to anybody that has two first rounders or a high 2nd rounder that might want to trade up for Edwards or somebody else at the top of the board.
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to get the number two we would have to give up our fist and 2nd and probably the 4th also.
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I just heard on 61 (I think, was in the middle of a storm) that a deal between KC and miami could be announced by noon tommorrow. It was reported by a "major" news outlet but didn't catch which one.
PS: draft special on ESPN right now. |
15th=1050
46th=440 116=62 Wesley/Woods=? The 2nd overall=2600+Surtain The Chiefs would have to give next years 1st and 3rd or trade LJ. I can't see it happening. |
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However, I think Miami believes they can get those same deals and still get quality picks for Surtain. If you are truly basing this on a feeling, I think it's that burrito you had for lunch. |
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I have a hunch that on Saturday night we are all gonna be dissapointed again.... :doh!:
I just can't get last year out of mind with the Kris Wilson pick. Carl has to prove it to me before I think they are gonna do anything but stay at 15 and draft a tweener :harumph: |
Laz that looks very doable and I'd make that deal. The change I would make is to trade down from 18 to acquire a 2nd round pick. I think Rogers is gone by 18, in fact I don't expect him to get out of the top 10.
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ROFL And the Chiefs new salary cap number is up to 167,000,000.00. It is fun to think it could happen though. ROFL
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Laz - did you email that to Carl like I asked you to the other day?
Lucky you, we have Carl's email address today....now would be a good time to email that to him. |
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our 15th selection is 1,050 points and our 2nd round pick is worth 430 points... we can't trade our third round comp pick and 4th round picks are worth 112 or less points and fifth rounders are worth even less... i haven't done the math, but i would guess that we don't have enough trade value in all our picks combined to trade for the number two spot overall... 2,600 is a lot of points... |
Minnesota might move up. I don't think there's a chance in hell KC can or will.
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If we were to acquire Miami's #2 pick and we really wanted Rolle or Johnson, the best thing to do would be to trade down into the 6-8 range. |
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Although this is a wonderful thought. I am extremely doubtful we can afford Surtain, Bell, Knight and the #2 pick in the entire draft cap wise.
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always bringing me down :shake: :p |
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the evil mastermind strikes again... ruining a perfectly good fantasy... :huh: :huh: :huh: |
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Well that depends. I'm the type that will do whatever it takes to get my player. I don't care what others preceive as dumb, as long as I get my player. If I targeted one guy and felt that the only sure way I would get him would be to select him at # 2 - then I do it every time rather than take the chance to get "more" if I trade down. Just the way I'm wired I guess. :hmmm: |
This is a big hunch which will never happen. That's alot of cap money, and putting alot of value on one of our safeties. Additionally, we would be trading away any significant picks that we have. This is especially bad when there aren't as big of stars in the draft and the top guys will not live up to the big money.
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Columnist from kcchiefs.com claims deal for Dolphins 1st round pick and Surtain could be done soon. |
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I think #2 is too high for the Chiefs. I do think we trade out of 15 and pick up another 2nd round pick.
Low First Round Pick: CB, best on the board. Our 2nd Round Pick: DE or OLB Our New 2nd Round Pick: Could be Surtain I think the Chiefs will end up having at least 4 picks on the first day. Carl wil only swing the trade for Surtain if we can trade down in the first for more first day picks. |
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Frankly, if the Chiefs picked Johnson with the second pick in the draft, I'd be pissed. I've said all along I'd love to have Johnson and Surtain, but Johnson is simply a bad value at #2. He can be had for a much lower pick -- possibly even pick #15.
There are only two reasonable things for the CHiefs to do with pick #2, if they had it: 1. Pick Edwards or Williams, whichever the Chiefs have higher. 2. Trade down again (probably to the 5-8 picks). Personally, i'd favor #2, but wouldn't complain about #1, either. |
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Maybe the Chiefs and Surtain have reached a contract agreement but its just that the compensation is a problem and the chiefs arent goin to announce anything about it until draft day.
I think Pat Surtain will be a chief. Come on Carl get the deal done. |
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PhilFree:arrow: |
It's a nice dream but my gut says that's all it is. And if we did get to #2, I'd say Braylon Edwards is the way to go, regardless of the defense. But I'm not sure how all this would feasibly fit under the cap.
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I know everyone is enamored with Edwards, however, I watched the guy weekend after weekend at Michigan, and I think he has bust written all over him. JMHO. However, Mike Williams is a different story. IMHO, Braylon Edwards = David Terrell/Peter Warrick. |
I'll preface this by reiterating that I'm a Michigan fan, so there's an obvious bias. That said, I guess we just have a difference of opinion. I saw his entire career and I see a superstar. And I think Mike Williams is the next Mikhael Ricks.
Well, no, not really, but it sounded good. ROFL I see Edwards as a sure thing, as much as there can be one in the NFL draft, but Williams I just don't know. :shrug: |
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