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C-Mac 04-22-2005 09:16 AM

its official...Chiefs trade for Miami cornerback Surtain
 
Chiefs trade for Miami cornerback Surtain

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star


The Chiefs finally got their man.

They completed the trade they worked on for almost three months, bringing veteran cornerback Patrick Surtain from the Miami Dolphins in exchange for a second-round pick in this weekend's draft.

Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said the clubs also will exchange fifth-round draft picks this year.

“I think it's ideal,” Vermeil said. “If you want to get better on defense, having players with his ability make it a lot easier. We've just got ourselves a good cover corner, a proven big-time player.”

The Chiefs and Surtain had previously agreed to the parameters of a seven-year contract, but terms of the trade with Miami needed to be worked out. The Chiefs had offered their fourth-round pick, but the Dolphins insisted on obtaining the second-round choice.

The Chiefs didn't want to part with the pick, but believed in the end that acquiring the two-time Pro Bowler Surtain was a necessary step in upgrading their defense.

“He's a quality player,” Vermeil said. “We could not have drafted a player in the second round who could make the kind of immediate impact on our defense that he will.”

Mr. Kotter 04-22-2005 09:17 AM

PBJ PBJ PBJ

"I FEEEEEEEEEL Good!" dah...dah..dah-dah...duh, duhn....."Like Sugar and Spice.......I Feeeeeeeel Nicccceeee!"

Fire Me Boy! 04-22-2005 09:19 AM

So who here has to eat their hats or blow Carl?

DAMN THE NON-FUNCTIONING SEARCH TOOL!!!

jcroft 04-22-2005 09:22 AM

It's on ESPN now, too:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...C-DT9705204233

ShortRoundChief 04-22-2005 09:22 AM

Hey C-mac, you can get banned for putting this crap on the front page.:)
j/k

This is great news, Now where can we send the Great Bartee.

Red Dawg 04-22-2005 09:24 AM

The King has done us right this off season. Good job Carl, you have now entered Tuckdaddy's NO BASH ZONE until after the 05 season.

Bob Dole 04-22-2005 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Mac
“We could not have drafted a player in the second round who could make the kind of immediate impact on our defense that he will.”

Exactly.

philfree 04-22-2005 09:25 AM

Hot Damn! :) Now that it's official :clap: We've officially improved the D, Surtain, Knight, Bell and Hall. Good job Carl and as a season ticket holder I give you a pat on the back. Now don't fug up the draft!


PhilFree:arrow:

Mr. Kotter 04-22-2005 09:26 AM

"I FEEEEEEEEEL Good!" dah...dah..dah-dah...duh, duhn....."Like Sugar and Spice.......I Feeeeeeeel Nicccceeee!"

PBJ PBJ PBJ

deadbabyseal 04-22-2005 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy
The King has done us right this off season. Good job Carl, you have now entered Tuckdaddy's NO BASH ZONE until after the 05 season.

Or at least until the draft this weekend.

Fire Me Boy! 04-22-2005 09:29 AM

Also being reported by The Associated Press.

Skip Towne 04-22-2005 09:29 AM

Now I know how the Donkey fans felt when they got Chump Bailey.

Mr. Kotter 04-22-2005 09:30 AM

It was MY e-mail that pushed CP into this you know....heh.

:p

Always Charger 04-22-2005 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy

This is great news, Now where can we send the Great Bartee.

How bout the Faiders..... :drool:

Kyle401 04-22-2005 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!
So who here has to eat their hats or blow Carl?

DAMN THE NON-FUNCTIONING SEARCH TOOL!!!

Quote: <HR SIZE=1>Originally Posted by
rufusmaqeno way we DON'T sign a starting CB.
carlos3652We know we are getting either Law or Surtain as worst case scenario. I cant see Carl screwing this one up
C-Macwe'll get a veteran CB before its all said and done. Mark my post!
tk13No way Carl goes into training camp with those guys as our starters
ChiefsCountryYes, we will get a cornerback one of the biggies and mid-free agent
alanmTy Law will be a Chief.
Special EdIt's just a matter of when, not if, that Surtain is a Chief.
<HR SIZE=1>


Laz is going to have to find a new sig line now. I'm sure he won't mind though.

PBJ

Mr. Laz 04-22-2005 09:34 AM

i'm surprised AND impressed ... carl swallowed his pride and gave the 2nd round pick.


we needed it bad



good job :clap:

dirk digler 04-22-2005 09:35 AM

Finally! I am as happy as a 2 pecker billy goat! PBJ

Kyle401 04-22-2005 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Always Charger
How bout the Faiders..... :drool:

Good idea! lets try for their #38 pick in the second. ROFL

Logical 04-22-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
i'm surprised AND impressed ... carl swallowed his pride and gave the 2nd round pick.


we needed it bad



good job :clap:

:thumb: Vlad favorably impressed and encouraged for the season. It is about time, way to go Carl you dickweed.

Red Dawg 04-22-2005 09:38 AM

The King has done us right this off season. Good job Carl, you have now entered Tuckdaddy's NO BASH ZONE until after the 05 season.

Mr. Kotter 04-22-2005 09:48 AM

PBJ PBJ PBJ

"I FEEEEEEEEEL Good!" dah...dah..dah-dah...duh, duhn....."Like Sugar and Spice.......I Feeeeeeeel Nicccceeee!"

Lzen 04-22-2005 09:51 AM

Wow, that's fantastic. I'm looking forward to this coming season. Hopefully, we can add a decent LB or DE (to replace Hicks) and this will have been the best offseason in a long, long time. :)

Spicy McHaggis 04-22-2005 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Mac
“He's a quality player,” Vermeil said. “We could not have drafted a player in the second round who could make the kind of immediate impact on our defense that he will.”

Really? Isn't that the exact opposite of what King Carl said 3 days ago?

chiefqueen 04-22-2005 09:54 AM

So Carl gave in to the rookie coach/GM???????? :banghead::banghead:

skky man 04-22-2005 09:59 AM

Thank God! I'm so glad I got on msn and saw it but had to come here to make it real! Hay now we have upgraded but maybe just maybe the best choice was getting gunther back and now giving him more tools to work with!

bricks 04-22-2005 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
:thumb: Vlad favorably impressed and encouraged for the season. It is about time, way to go Carl you dickweed.

come on Vladdy...you know better than to call Carl a Dickweed after getting Surtain.

Brock 04-22-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen
So Carl gave in to the rookie coach/GM???????? :banghead::banghead:

Looks to me like he paid market value. I was hoping he could steal him, but this is okay.

Fire Me Boy! 04-22-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!
Also being reported by The Associated Press.

By DOUG TUCKER
AP Sports Writer
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — The Kansas City Chiefs reached a deal with Miami cornerback Patrick Surtain, coach Dick Vermeil told The Associated Press on Friday.
The three-time Pro Bowler could go a long way toward shoring up one of the NFL’s worst defenses and allow Kansas City to use this weekend’s draft for other needs, such outside linebacker. A Chiefs spokesman said Surtain was still in Miami at midmorning, but would be in Kansas City later Friday to take his physical.
“He is signed,” Vermeil told the AP, although the move ultimately was contingent upon Surtain’s passing his physical and the deal’s being approved by the league office.
Also still to be done was the paperwork involving the trade with the Dolphins, who had been demanding a second-round draft pick as compensation for the man whose 25 interceptions the past three seasons lead all NFL cornerbacks.
“I’m very pleased,” Vermeil said. “He’s an impact player who can help a defense that needs help. He won’t need any grooming or more experience.”
Surtain will play right cornerback opposite Eric Warfield, who has been the only dependable member of a secondary that has been one of the most ineffective in the league the past three years.
The Chiefs’ poor defense, near the bottom of the league, has wasted the consistent production of a top-flight offense that sent five players last season to the Pro Bowl.
“We’ve given up too many big plays,” Vermeil said.
Acquiring Surtain completes the aggressive plan general manager Carl Peterson had laid out to get a linebacker, safety and cornerback before the draft.
Several weeks ago, Kansas City signed free agent middle linebacker Kendrell Bell and safety Sammy Knight, as well as reserve pass-rush specialist Carlos Hall.
“Carl and his people have done a great job,” said Vermeil, who has said this will most likely be his last year as a head coach. “It’s very exciting to consider all the possibilities we have now.”

the Talking Can 04-22-2005 10:02 AM

I am relieved and happy. I never thought CP would pony up for a stud CB.

Now, imagine Johnson slipping in the draft.

the Talking Can 04-22-2005 10:04 AM

"Also still to be done was the paperwork involving the trade with the Dolphins, who had been demanding a second-round draft pick as compensation for the man whose 25 interceptions the past three seasons lead all NFL cornerbacks."



how many INTs does Bartee have?

bricks 04-22-2005 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen
So Carl gave in to the rookie coach/GM???????? :banghead::banghead:

yeah? so? he did the right thing by giving up the pick. Carl was in the wrong all along if he thought he was going to get a better deal than a 2nd. The Dolphins I think gave the Chiefs a bargain for a superior quality player, they held the cards in this deal.

Brock 04-22-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bricks
yeah? so? he did the right thing by giving up the pick. Carl was in the wrong all along if he thought he was going to get a better deal than a 2nd. The Dolphins I think gave the Chiefs a bargain for a superior quality player, they held the cards in this deal.

Should I go ahead and renew my 5th row season tickets now?

C-Mac 04-22-2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy
Hey C-mac, you can get banned for putting this crap on the front page.:)
j/k

Yes I know, so I very carefully first weighed its value, then the risk and concluded it was a sacrifice I was willing to make for what I strongly feel is for the betterment of all those in Chief-fan-dom.
:p

Katie 04-22-2005 10:10 AM

Listen....you can hear the collective sigh of relief all over the Planet!!!

Frazod 04-22-2005 10:14 AM

THANK GOD. :thumb:

But still, here's a residual 4321 to Carl for dicking around with this until almost the last possible minute. Considering how grueling a typical Chiefs game is, must the offseason be a high blood pressure-inducing pain in the ass, too? :banghead:

Iowanian 04-22-2005 10:15 AM

I really didn't see any way CP would get this done. I'll say this, he had me buffaloed on the interview this week. In a poker game, He'd have caught me going all in with my 1010s


now.........will they draft at 15, or trade down to re-aquire a 2nd rounder?

How far down WOULD they have to trade to pick up a 2nd?

Archie Bunker 04-22-2005 10:16 AM

wow $14.5 Million Signing Bonus and 7-years over $50 million

Archie is so happy :)

Calcountry 04-22-2005 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy
Hey C-mac, you can get banned for putting this crap on the front page.:)
j/k

This is great news, Now where can we send the Great Bartee.

Let me be the first to say it,

William, YOU'RE FIRED!


Go on, go.

bogie 04-22-2005 10:17 AM

It's going to be a good day!

Kyle401 04-22-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
Should I go ahead and renew my 5th row season tickets now?

You already would have if you were a REAL Fan. :p

Calcountry 04-22-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
Looks to me like he paid market value. I was hoping he could steal him, but this is okay.

Hey, he got his little to boot, by moving up in , what was it, the 5th round?

Calcountry 04-22-2005 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle401
You already would have if you were a REAL Fan. :p

No, I disagree with you. Fan's have every right to demand due dilligance from the FO.

Mr. Laz 04-22-2005 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Kwayzee
Listen....you can hear the collective sigh of relief all over the Planet!!!

Dang straight ... we need this badly



takes a huge load of pressure off the draft... now we have some options

C-Mac 04-22-2005 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I really didn't see any way CP would get this done. I'll say this, he had me buffaloed on the interview this week. In a poker game, He'd have caught me going all in with my 1010s


now.........will they draft at 15, or trade down to re-aquire a 2nd rounder?

How far down WOULD they have to trade to pick up a 2nd?

My guess is that if there is not a quality Tight End available at 15, they will trade down.
:p

Calcountry 04-22-2005 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
"Also still to be done was the paperwork involving the trade with the Dolphins, who had been demanding a second-round draft pick as compensation for the man whose 25 interceptions the past three seasons lead all NFL cornerbacks."



how many INTs does Bartee have?

Who is Bartee?

Kyle401 04-22-2005 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunnytrdr
No, I disagree with you. Fan's have every right to demand due dilligance from the FO.

Did you miss the :p ? I guess I should have included [sarcasm]Insert comment here[/sarcasm].

ChiefsOne 04-22-2005 10:38 AM

Happy Happy Joy Joy.......feel like the ulgy girl that just got asked to the prom!

Chiefs_Fan_n_64081 04-22-2005 10:42 AM

That is fan-freakin'-tastic news.

ChiefGator 04-22-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen
So Carl gave in to the rookie coach/GM???????? :banghead::banghead:

Umm.. NO!! Carl really nailed it to him by demanding the exchange of 5th round picks.

gblowfish 04-22-2005 10:57 AM

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RIP Crispy Bartee.

Please end up with the Raiders, so we can toast your sorry ASS!!

Manila-Chief 04-22-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy
The King has done us right this off season. Good job Carl, you have now entered Tuckdaddy's NO BASH ZONE until after the 05 season.

Guess I'll have to join you and quit using Kingless until he earns the title again ... but not willing to pledge til the end of the season!!!!

Great news!!!! As far as I'm concerned we have had a good draft. Now if we can pick up a quality player at #15 and maybe a punter and some players to grow into starter that will be a great draft. I think this is our only year... it's now or never and at least we got a solid chance at making it special!!!

Good Job Carl!!!

Boise_Chief 04-22-2005 11:19 AM

You only need a punter if you intend to have to punt. I'd appreciated a 80% defense draft. Punters can be found in FA.

Kyle401 04-22-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boise_Chief
You only need a punter if you intend to have to punt. I'd appreciated a 80% defense draft. Punters can be found in FA.


Matt Jones can punt! If we take him in the 1st we can use him as a punter and a WR!

PBJ

Amnorix 04-22-2005 11:44 AM

Good trade. Surtain is definitely worth it. He's a top notch CB, and he can both cover and tackle. Solid in run support.

But, of course, nobody can cover Moss 1:1, so don't expect to see that happening.

MOhillbilly 04-22-2005 11:48 AM

this makes me feel better,but i dont get nuts excited anymore.
reflections of past seasons being the reason.

HC_Chief 04-22-2005 11:49 AM

It's about *$&%ing time!!

Good to see dickface get something right, for once. I was pretty sure he'd screw the deal up. Perhaps Gunther kicked some sense into him?

BigChiefFan 04-22-2005 11:55 AM

Just wanted to chime in and say this is a great move for the Chiefs. He's one of the top corners in the game and brings instant credibility to the secondary. I'm glad carl sacked up and realized how good Surtain will be next year compared to our second roundr making an impact. Praise Carl for actually delivering on his promise this off-season. If feels damn good to know our FO actually made some moves to improve our team.



Hallelujah!!!!!!

Rain Man 04-22-2005 01:39 PM

Hey. This is good.

This is really good.

It's good above and beyond the trade itself, too, because now it clears us to take the best available player with the #15 pick. I'm hoping it'll be David Pollock, assuming that Rolle and Johnson are gone by that point.

Mr. Laz 04-22-2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix
Good trade. Surtain is definitely worth it. He's a top notch CB, and he can both cover and tackle. Solid in run support.

But, of course, nobody can cover Moss 1:1, so don't expect to see that happening.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...APPY_DANCE.gif

Ralphy Boy 04-22-2005 01:56 PM

This is great news, made my weekend.

Now if there was some way Ty Law would sign a low $ contract AND return to complete health, with us, it would make my year. Not gonna happen, he'll likely sign with the Sliver & Back.

Big Chief Homer 04-22-2005 02:52 PM

YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

I heard this at work today on ESPN and the people I work with thought i had lost my mind.

Carl,IMO had to do it for the 2nd.After the dumbass texans gave up a 2nd and 3rd for Buchanon and The jets gave up a first for Jolley.No way the dolphins took a 4th for Surtain.

C-Mac 04-22-2005 05:32 PM

Another perk for trading the 2nd round pick is that Surtain will not be missing training camp.
:D

milkman 04-22-2005 06:25 PM

Well, well, well.
Carl finally did it.

I'll give him props for getting this done, and for the earlier signings of Bell and Knight.

Now it's up to Carl to make the right moves in the draft tomorrow to continue the defensive upgrades.

This really gives us options tomorrow.

Carl still doesn't get a pass, though.
He ain't won nuthin' yet.
He does have the boat sailing in the right direction.


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