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Donger 04-22-2005 02:46 PM

Gunther on Surtain
 
“The most important thing about Patrick Surtain is that he’s a tremendous cover guy. He comes up with the ball and he gets turnovers. He fits the mold of James Hasty or a Dale Carter in terms of his coverage skills. He’s a playmaker. He brings an attitude and intensity to our secondary. Opposing teams are going to know that he’s out there and are going to have to account for him. Hopefully his leadership will inspire confidence in the rest of our defensive backs and the rest of our defense.

“The number one priority for our defense in the off-season was to add explosion. When the Kansas City Chiefs were a force on defense, you could the feel the explosion and you could see the turnovers. Sammy Knight and Patrick Surtain have proven they can take the ball away. Kendrell Bell gives us the ability to have a blitzing linebacker who can wreak havoc on the quarterback in the passing game. Carlos Hall does the same thing. He can close fast on the quarterback or the ball carrier. To me, the work that Carl (Peterson), Denny (Thum), Coach Vermeil and the entire organization has put in has been tremendous. They developed a plan and the plan was followed. We targeted specific players and we’ve added four players to our defense who I consider to be playmakers.”

- Gunther Cunningham
Chiefs Defensive Coordinator

BIG_DADDY 04-22-2005 02:49 PM

Yep

Hoover 04-22-2005 02:51 PM

Yeah, this is going to be a great year!

I also think getting Surtain will entice Shields to keep going. With the additions on Defense you got ot be thinking you got a chance for a ring.

BigRedChief 04-22-2005 02:56 PM

Still pissed off that they didn't do this last year.

Hammock Parties 04-22-2005 02:57 PM

LOS GUNTHER KICK YOUR ASS!
LOS GUNTHER KICK YOUR FACE!
LOS GUNTHER KICK YOUR BALLS INTO OU-TER SPACE!

the Talking Can 04-22-2005 02:57 PM

ditto gunther...you crazy german

the Talking Can 04-22-2005 02:58 PM

translation

Gunther: "Last year we lined up a bunch of pu$$ies"

siberian khatru 04-22-2005 02:59 PM

I just got a woody.

Big Chief Homer 04-22-2005 03:05 PM

If Gunthers Happy.Thats all I care about.

And you know when Guns Happy with the players he's got,its gonna be a good year.

Chieficus 04-22-2005 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
He fits the mold of James Hasty or a Dale Carter in terms of his coverage skills.

- Gunther Cunningham
Chiefs Defensive Coordinator

Just hope its more Hasty and less Carter...

Mr. Laz 04-22-2005 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus
Just hope its more Hasty and less Carter...

actually when focused, Dale carter was a much better cover corner IMO

Chief Henry 04-22-2005 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Still pissed off that they didn't do this last year.



For sure

Cannibal 04-22-2005 04:17 PM

Damn I like the sound of that. I just hope like holy hell that it comes to fruition. I must give Carl props for taking a chance and trading for Surtain.

Ultra Peanut 04-22-2005 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
actually when focused, Dale carter was a much better cover corner IMO

And when not focused, well...

Chief Henry 04-22-2005 04:20 PM

I'm re-excited about KC Chiefs football...
The front office has DONE something for the defense...

I still wonder if DV can spell defense. he should with this group...

stevieray 04-22-2005 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Still pissed off that they didn't do this last year.

This is like getting a brand new Porsche for free and not liking the color.

:)

Cannibal 04-22-2005 04:23 PM

During his early years in KC Carter was a dominate corner. One of the Madden games had a highlight of Carter playing catch up and leaping about 5 feet in the air to tip a ball away. He was a great player in his prime. Probably could've played himself into the HOF if had his head on straight.

Baby Lee 04-22-2005 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus
Just hope its more Hasty and less Carter...

Anyone remember which game it was, I think it was in 97, where the commentators were going on endlessly about how EVERY pass attempt was a coverage sack. They didn't get a receiver open all game with Carter and Hasty back there.

Rain Man 04-22-2005 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray
This is like getting a brand new Porsche for free and not liking the color.

:)


Are you calling him a racist?

Chieficus 04-22-2005 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
Anyone remember which game it was, I think it was in 97, where the commentators were going on endlessly about how EVERY pass attempt was a coverage sack. They didn't get a receiver open all game with Carter and Hasty back there.

No doubt, Carter played well especially early on, but... he proved to be anything but consistent and began to be burnt more and more. By his final year with us, Hasty was a much better player...

stevieray 04-22-2005 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Are you calling him a racist?

Only if he used a slur towards the car.

Ultra Peanut 04-22-2005 04:33 PM

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

stevieray 04-22-2005 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal
He was a great player in his prime. Probably could've played himself into the HOF if had his head on straight.

no doubt.

Hammock Parties 04-22-2005 04:34 PM

The Chiefs got a porsche...the Donks got 4 pintos.

beer bacon 04-22-2005 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs
The Chiefs got a porsche...the Donks got 4 pintos.

First round bust pintos mind you.

Cannibal 04-22-2005 04:37 PM

I'm very excited about this, but let's not go overboard people. The Surtain deal could end up like the Champ Bailey deal for all we know. I'm excited, but my optimism is also somewhat guarded.

stevieray 04-22-2005 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal
I'm very excited about this, but let's not go overboard people. The Surtain deal could end up like the Champ Bailey deal for all we know. I'm excited, but my optimism is also somewhat guarded.

not me...gunther, baby!! i think we're gonna be solid. I'll even take a chance and say Wilkerson takes Hicks starting job.

besides, we're talking about the Invescos, who think they're better even when they lose.

Logical 04-22-2005 04:41 PM

We definitely are contenders for a playoff win this year I believe. IMO we still are one OLB away and a pretty much injury free season away from being Super Bowl contenders.

Logical 04-22-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray
This is like getting a brand new Porsche for free and not liking the color.

:)

Funny line but I don't really get it. We could have been a contender last year had Carl done this during last offseason. I would think anyone would acknowledge that would have been a good thing.

Cannibal 04-22-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray
not me...gunther, baby!! i think we're gonna be solid. I'll even take a chance and say Wilkerson takes Hicks starting job.

besides, we're talking about the Invescos, who think they're better even when they lose.

I hope like hell you're correct. But I do agree that one of the final peices of the puzzle is for somebody to put Hicks on the bench.

Baby Lee 04-22-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray
This is like getting a brand new Porsche for free and not liking the color.

:)

It's like walking from KC to LA on a broken ankle, and when you get there, someone says "looks like you need a car. take this one."

stevieray 04-22-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Funny line but I don't really get it. We could have been a contender last year had Carl done this during last offseason. I would think anyone would acknowledge that would have been a good thing.


all you're missing is the should.... :)

Skip Towne 04-22-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal
I'm very excited about this, but let's not go overboard people. The Surtain deal could end up like the Champ Bailey deal for all we know. I'm excited, but my optimism is also somewhat guarded.

Exactly. I want to see our new kick ass D in action before I crow.

Logical 04-22-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
It's like walking from KC to LA on a broken ankle, and when you get there, someone says "looks like you need a car. take this one."

That is a better analogy, but wouldn't it be more like:

I wish I had been given this car before I walked all the way KC to LA on a broken ankle.

stevieray 04-22-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
It's like walking from KC to LA on a broken ankle, and when you get there, someone says "looks like you need a car. take this one."

cool, you wouldn't have to walk back home.

Eleazar 04-22-2005 04:58 PM

There are two ifs - IF we can stay healthy, and IF someone at OLB will step up, then we could make some serious noise in the AFC.

Baby Lee 04-22-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
That is a better analogy, but wouldn't it be more like:

I wish I had been given this car before I walked all the way KC to LA on a broken ankle.

That was my point. The past 4 years have smacked my enthus-o-meter around so much that I'm like a beaten puppy scared to take the tasty treat from a friendly hand. Could've used some of these quality personnel moves back when my fandom was a little less battered.

stevieray 04-22-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
That was my point. The past 4 years have smacked my enthus-o-meter around so much that I'm like a beaten puppy scared to take the tasty treat from a friendly hand. Could've used some of these quality personnel moves back when my fandom was a little less battered.

Couldashouldawoulda... :)

Cannibal 04-22-2005 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
That was my point. The past 4 years have smacked my enthus-o-meter around so much that I'm like a beaten puppy scared to take the tasty treat from a friendly hand. Could've used some of these quality personnel moves back when my fandom was a little less battered.

I totally agree with you. But Carl finally pulled his head out of his ass this year. I'm pretty happy about it.

We may have a shitty season again next year, but it won't be for lack of trying.

Now we need a stud DE.


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