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Herzig 04-24-2005 06:56 PM

GOLFERS: What's in your bag?
 
I am an admitted "club slut". I'm always buying, selling, and trading equipment. Naptown is the only one here that I know of that is as bad or worse than I am about this addiction. Just curious what's in your bag...


Ping G5 Driver 9* TFC Stiff shaft
Ping Rapture 5 Wood 17* TFC Stiff shaft
Ping G5 Hybrids 19* & 22* TFC Stiff shaft
Ping i5 Irons 4-PW ZZ65
Cleveland 588 50* Gap
Cleveland 588 56* Sand Wedge
Oydessey 34" Two Ball Putter tour filled and trilined

Ultra Peanut 04-24-2005 07:01 PM

I have a ferret in my bag.

Ultra Peanut 04-24-2005 07:02 PM

That's a euphemism.

WilliamTheIrish 04-24-2005 07:03 PM

JFC!!

16 year old Cleveland Launcher.
Orlimar 3w.
Some pot metal 5w.

Integra irons.

Some old putter.

Pales in comparison, but so does my game (I'm certain)

Skip Towne 04-24-2005 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psicosis
That's a euphemism.

Did a squirrel eat your brains?

Phobia 04-24-2005 07:04 PM

I used to be that bad, but my bag has been stagnent for a couple years.

Whatever I listed last time is what I still have.

Titleist 962 Irons 2-PW
Titleist BeCu SW/AW/LW
Steelhead 3 Wood
Titleist 975J Driver

WhiteHot putter

Ultra Peanut 04-24-2005 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Did a squirrel eat your brains?

ROFL

4th and Long 04-24-2005 07:05 PM

My balls?

WilliamTheIrish 04-24-2005 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I used to be that bad, but my bag has been stagnent for a couple years.

Whatever I listed last time is what I still have.

Titleist 962 Irons 2-PW
Titleist BeCu SW/AW/LW
Steelhead 3 Wood
Titleist 975J Driver

WhiteHot putter

He failed to mention the helicopter.

Skip Towne 04-24-2005 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
JFC!!

16 year old Cleveland Launcher.
Orlimar 3w.
Some pot metal 5w.

Integra irons.

Some old putter.

Pales in comparison, but so does my game (I'm certain)

You haven't seen Herzig's game have you? :p

Miles 04-24-2005 07:07 PM

Ping ISI Tech 8.5* w/ Graffaloy Tour
Titleist 17* 980F
Ping ISI Nickle 2-PW
Cleavland 588 56*
Titleist Vokey 60*
Scotty Cameron Red X Center Shaft

Phobia 04-24-2005 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
He failed to mention the helicopter.

They're ALL helicopters.

Herzig 04-24-2005 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
You haven't seen Herzig's game have you? :p

Yep..it's pretty rusty right now..on my good days I'm shooting in the high 80's...mostly low 90's...wait til summer you bastage!! My personal best is 79 which I've shot 4 times(Lost Springs). That's all relative though considering the course.

Skip has an old bent wedge he needs to retire...

Philfree claims to be about a scratch golfer to 3-4 handicap...as far as I know, he's about the best player here. I'm more of about a 9 or 10 in the summer when I play more.

WilliamTheIrish 04-24-2005 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
Yep..it's pretty rusty right now..on my good days I'm shooting in the high 80's...mostly low 90's...wait til summer you bastage!!

Skip has an old bent wedge he needs to retire...

That thing was retired till the invention of drugs for erectile dysfunction.

ShortRoundChief 04-24-2005 07:12 PM

I got the same old set of clubs I got at a garage sale 3 years ago for 10 bucks. Old as hell, however they still hit well.

Bootlegged 04-24-2005 07:15 PM

Intergra Sooo Long 9 degree Driver
Callaway Big Bertha 3 WD
Nike CPR 18 degree
4-SW Callaway Big Bertha Oversize
Cleveland 56 degree SW
Taylor Made 60 degree
White Hot #5 putter

stevieray 04-24-2005 07:17 PM

TaylorMade 380 driver
Ping Woods 3,4,5
Ping Eye2 1/W
PingZing putter(37 foreverauction)

Miles 04-24-2005 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
I am an admitted "club slut". I'm always buying, selling, and trading equipment.

I used to be pretty bad about it but now i only get a new club every few years or so. Its mostly from not playing as often as i used to but i also really like what i have now. Though i have my eye on the Titlist 503.H 19* utility iron. Its pretty damn nice.

The nice thing about trading clubs nowadays is how useful ebay is. If you dont buy equiptmnet right when its released you dont lose too much on it.

Herzig 04-24-2005 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray
TaylorMade 380 driver
Ping Woods 3,4,5
Ping Eye2 1/W
PingZing putter(37 foreverauction)

Love the Eye 2's...classic sticks...over 20 years old and a used set still goes for about 250-300 bucks...talk about holding your value...

I hit a hole in one with an Eye 2 SW back in Oct. 99'...lucky shot.

stevieray 04-24-2005 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
Love the Eye 2's...classic sticks...over 20 years old and a used set still goes for about 250-300 bucks...talk about holding your value...

I hit a hole in one with an Eye 2 SW back in Oct. 99'...lucky shot.

I here ya, first cavity back club I hit. They are great irons.

I REALLY need to play this year.

Phobia 04-24-2005 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray
I here ya, first cavity back club I hit. They are great irons.

I REALLY need to play this year.

I thought we were playing Tiffany last fall. What happened?

stevieray 04-24-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I thought we were playing Tiffany last fall. What happened?

we were stupid.

JimNasium 04-24-2005 07:23 PM

My bag is not only stagnant, it is also inactive.

Driver: Callaway Great Big Bertha Ruger Titanium 9.5*
3 Wood: Callaway S2H2 13*
4 Wood: Cleveland Quadpro 17*
7 Wood: Some piece of shit Callaway 22* clone
3-PW: Cleveland TA5
GW: Cleveland BeCu 53*
LW: Ping Eye2
P: Wilson 8802

SCTrojan 04-24-2005 07:24 PM

I've caved to the inevitable and started putting hybrids in my golf bag. Have never been able to hit long irons consistently, but for some reason I have confidence in the hybrids.

Callaway 10.5 degree driver
Callaway 3W
Mizuno steel 5W
Taylormade 7W
Tayormade hybrid #4
Adams tight lies hybrid #5
Callaway SW, PW, 7 iron & 9 iron
Odyssey putter

Herzig 04-24-2005 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimNasium
My bag is not only stagnant, it is also inactive.

Driver: Callaway Great Big Bertha Ruger Titanium 9.5*
3 Wood: Callaway S2H2 13*
4 Wood: Cleveland Quadpro 17*
7 Wood: Some piece of shit Callaway 22* clone
3-PW: Cleveland TA5
GW: Cleveland BeCu 53*
LW: Ping Eye2
P: Wilson 8802

That's just a damn shame. Don't be a quitter like Skip!

JimNasium 04-24-2005 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
That's just a damn shame. Don't be a quitter like Skip!

My motto has always been "Don't be a quitter, stick it in her shitter."

Herzig 04-24-2005 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan
I've caved to the inevitable and started putting hybrids in my golf bag. Have never been able to hit long irons consistently, but for some reason I have confidence in the hybrids.

I've demoed the Cally Heavenwood, TaylorMade Mid, Adams Idea, and the Cobra SZ baffler. The Cobra Baffler was by far the easiest to hit long and straight.

SCTrojan 04-24-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
I've demoed the Cally Heavenwood, TaylorMade Mid, Adams Idea, and the Cobra SZ baffler. The Cobra Baffler was by far the easiest to hit long and straight.

Hit all those at a Golf Galaxy last month and the Adams felt best. I picked up the TaylorMade used at a Golf Galaxy in Minneapolis last summer.

I'd always struggled with the 165-190 yard distance (esp. par 3s) until I got these clubs. Now I have a hard time whenever I'm inside 140.

HemiEd 04-24-2005 07:33 PM

Nike Blades, 2-W, Cleveland 52,56sw and 60 wedges, Ping Zing putter, Titleist 983K, King Cobra 3W. Yeah I know, that is 15 but nobody ever checks! ROFL
At least forty back up clubs. Must have a half dozen five woods but prefer long irons. :p

Herzig 04-27-2005 10:46 AM

bumpity bump

whoman69 04-27-2005 10:54 AM

I think equipment is ruining the game. How far would Tiger hit them if he still had metal shafts with actual wood woods, and the same golf balls they built in Jack Nicholas' era? Want to Tigerproof a course, take away his clubs.

Scaga 04-27-2005 10:56 AM

Great Big Birtha 8 degree w/ graffaloy shaft
Great Big 3-wood
Ping Eye 2 (green dot) 1-SW (extended for the 6'4" owner...bought new in 1987).
Taylor Made Putter

HemiEd 04-27-2005 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
I think equipment is ruining the game. How far would Tiger hit them if he still had metal shafts with actual wood woods, and the same golf balls they built in Jack Nicholas' era? Want to Tigerproof a course, take away his clubs.

Last I watched Tiger he was using metal shafts, except for his driver. It could have changed but I believe they are still metal. Typically composite shafts are not good for swing speeds like his.

jspchief 04-27-2005 11:02 AM

I'm not a big club guy. I'm a firm believer that it's the indian, not the arrow. My only weakness may be putters.

Driver: Ping ISI Titanium 8.5
Woods: Echelon 3 & 5 (came with irons)
Irons: Echelon 3-PW (an off-brand set that was the first new set I purchased)
SW: Ping Eye 2
Lob Wedge: Cleveland Rusty 60 degree
Putter: Ping Craz-E G2i

I'll probably upgrade my irons to the Ping G2 later this year. I've been putting off getting irons because I haven't been playing as much lately. I use my fairway so little, I'm in no hurry to upgrade. It's rare that I play a course that requires me to use a 3 or 5 wood, so what I have gets me by.

King_Chief_Fan 04-27-2005 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
I am an admitted "club slut". I'm always buying, selling, and trading equipment. Naptown is the only one here that I know of that is as bad or worse than I am about this addiction. Just curious what's in your bag...


Cobra 400 SZ Aldila HM Tour 60 9*
Cobra SZ 3 Wood
Cobra SZ 5 Wood
Ping I/3 Blades black dot 4-PW
Cleveland Gunmetal 49* and 56* Wedges
Cleveland CG 52* Gap
Odyssey 2 Ball White Steel heel shaft 34 inch putter

Backup

Cleveland Launcher 460 10.5 Aldila NV
Adams GT 3 and 5 woods
Ping S59's Black dot 3-PW
Several other Cleveland Wedges of various lofts
About 5 other putters

I have the same Cobra woods as yours. (aren't those great woods!?)
I have King Cobra ssi irons
ping 56* wedge
Ping G2i putter

KCTitus 04-27-2005 11:06 AM

Man, I havent bought new clubs in almost a decade...MOF, Im getting them regripped this week.

The last club I bought was a King Cobra SW, 55 degrees...Im very lethal with that club at 100yds.

I just wish I could afford a whole set of Cobra's...I'd like to think that it would improve my game.

I definately need new fairway woods...Im still playing a 3W & 5W that I bought 20 years ago. I still like my Top Flite Intimidator driver, even though it's not a frozen turkey on a toothpick like most new drivers today.

King_Chief_Fan 04-27-2005 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Man, I havent bought new clubs in almost a decade...MOF, Im getting them regripped this week.

The last club I bought was a King Cobra SW, 55 degrees...Im very lethal with that club at 100yds.

I just wish I could afford a whole set of Cobra's...I'd like to think that it would improve my game.

I definately need new fairway woods...Im still playing a 3W & 5W that I bought 20 years ago. I still like my Top Flite Intimidator driver, even though it's not a frozen turkey on a toothpick like most new drivers today.

you should at least spring for the 3 and 5 wood Cobras. You will love em.

KCTitus 04-27-2005 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan
you should at least spring for the 3 and 5 wood Cobras. You will love em.

Was checking them HARD last week at Golf Galaxy...Im trying to work up the story that will get me the Mrs' blessing.

HemiEd 04-27-2005 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Was checking them HARD last week at Golf Galaxy...Im trying to work up the story that will get me the Mrs' blessing.


ROFL I never let my wife have any say when it comes to toys of any kind, but I guess that is just me. :D

King_Chief_Fan 04-27-2005 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus
Was checking them HARD last week at Golf Galaxy...Im trying to work up the story that will get me the Mrs' blessing.

I bought mine in Feb last year...... I used birthday and fathers day presents as my excuse.

ROYC75 04-27-2005 11:25 AM

A bunch of clubs, I have to go get them to tell ya what each is.

Otter 04-27-2005 11:30 AM

A $300 dollar box set of Wilsons that I'm glad I didn't go higher upon purchase. After two summers of trying, golf just never clacked my clackers and was replaced by fly fishing.

To me, golfing is about as relaxing as replacing the brake pads on my truck.

Boozer 04-27-2005 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
I think equipment is ruining the game. How far would Tiger hit them if he still had metal shafts with actual wood woods, and the same golf balls they built in Jack Nicholas' era? Want to Tigerproof a course, take away his clubs.

For guys like Tiger, going back to hickory shafts like they had in Skip's day wouldn't make that much of a difference. For everyday duffers, even a time warp back to 1980 would be a world of difference.

Shag 04-27-2005 11:54 AM

Callaway VFT 9*
Taylor Made Burner Bubble (original) 3W
Titleist 975F 5W

Tommy Armour 845 Titanium 3-PW, LW
Old hand-me-down SW blade
Odyssey White Hot Rossie putter

I've really been eyeing used Taylor Made R7's on ebay lately, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I want to pick up a set of Mizuno MP33's someday, as well...

donkhater 04-27-2005 12:24 PM

D-Nike 10.5*
3W-Olimar 16*
4IW-Nikent 21*
Irons(5-SW)-Nicklaus steel shaft
gap wedge (52*)-Adams blade
lob wedge(60*)-no clue
Putter-Cleveland Robusto

Got the putter, irons and ironwood just last fall.

The Nicklaus irons are awesome and loved getting back to a steel shaft after playing with graphite the last 10 years. Got them in a deal last fall for $179. Took the 3 and 4 out of the bag and replaced it with the ironwood.

If I wanted anything else it may be a 3-wood I can tee off with. The one I have is more of a thin faced fairway wood and can be hard to hit consistently off the tee.

Bill Lundberg 04-27-2005 12:44 PM

Great Big Bertha II 9.5 - Firm Flex Driver
Mizuno 3 and 5 Woods
King Cobra SSi 3-SW
Cheap belly putter

Stinger 04-27-2005 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
I think equipment is ruining the game. How far would Tiger hit them if he still had metal shafts with actual wood woods, and the same golf balls they built in Jack Nicholas' era? Want to Tigerproof a course, take away his clubs.

If you want to bring everyone to the same level quick use a standardized ball.

KCTitus 04-27-2005 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinger
If you want to bring everyone to the same level quick use a standardized ball.

Speaking of this...I heard a little something about the Masters wanting to force players to use a ball they developed in their tourney.

If there's a group that can do it, it would be those guys.

SCTrojan 04-27-2005 01:57 PM

Actually, IMO if you want to level the playing field in pro golf, course design is the way to go. The object is to take the driver out of the bombers' hands, not make the hole distances so long that you simply magnify their advantage.

350-yard holes that don't allow the use of a driver through their design bedevil Tiger and the boys more than a 650-yard par 5s.

Stinger 04-27-2005 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan
Actually, IMO if you want to level the playing field in pro golf, course design is the way to go. The object is to take the driver out of the bombers' hands, not make the hole distances so long that you simply magnify their advantage.

350-yard holes that don't allow the use of a driver through their design bedevil Tiger and the boys more than a 650-yard par 5s.

You sound like Davis love. I believe it was him that said recently that if you have to design a course at 7600 yard to make it playable you should not be in the design business.

So many course could be better by not tricking up a course but using it's natural factors ( i.e. wind, rolling terrain, rolling greens, tighter fairways, etc.) to make it better and more difficult.

Phobia 04-27-2005 02:14 PM

I may not have upgraded my sticks in a few years, but I just found out today that one of my friends from the USMC is employed in the golf industry in Myrtle Beach. She doesn't golf, so she offered free greens fees if I came down on vacation.

KCTitus 04-27-2005 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan
350-yard holes that don't allow the use of a driver through their design bedevil Tiger and the boys more than a 650-yard par 5s.

Speaking specifically of Tiger, if you had an 18 hole course of nothing but par 3's ranging from 180-250 yards, it would definately put him at a disadvantage. He makes up most his strokes on the par 5's and long par 4's.

You're right...going long only increases his advantage.

SCTrojan 04-27-2005 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinger
So many course could be better by not tricking up a course but using it's natural factors ( i.e. wind, rolling terrain, rolling greens, tighter fairways, etc.) to make it better and more difficult.

Yep, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. British Open courses, especially Royal St. George's in 2003, are exactly what I'm talking about. I think the winning score was -1 or something like that.

Miles 04-27-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
I think equipment is ruining the game. How far would Tiger hit them if he still had metal shafts with actual wood woods, and the same golf balls they built in Jack Nicholas' era? Want to Tigerproof a course, take away his clubs.

He would still be able to lauch bombs with old school clubs that would fly past guys of that era. When Tiger won his first Masters he was still knocking the shit out of the ball with an origional King Cobra deep face driver with a steel shaft and Mizzuno MP-29 Irons. When your swinging 140 you will get some distance with anything.

Ball technology has just recently made fairly drastic improvements. When Tiger first showed up on tour the balls were pretty much the same as what Jack was using back in the day.

Stinger 04-27-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles
Ball technology has just recently made fairly drastic improvements. When Tiger first showed up on tour the balls were pretty much the same as what Jack was using back in the day.

:hmmm:

I think the people at Titlest, Callaway, Top "Rock"-Flight, et. all might disagree with you on that.

How long has the multicompression ball been around? Awhile I would assume. I maybe wrong though. Where as I don't believe Jack's era had that luxury?

Miles 04-27-2005 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinger
:hmmm:

I think the people at Titlest, Callaway, Top "Rock"-Flight, et. all might disagree with you on that.

How long has the multicompression ball been around? Awhile I would assume. I maybe wrong though. Where as I don't believe Jack's era had that luxury?

Im not too sure on the multicompression thing either. I know they have been around for at least 20years.

The ball technology did progress quite a lot from the 70's to 90's but not as much with the high spin balls.

Up untill the mids 90's or so they were still using 3 piece wound balata cover balls on tour. From what i understand that basic setup had been used for a long ass time. About roughly that time the first titleist high spin ball with a synthetic cover came out, the titleist professional.

Probably wasnt till the Pro VI that a dramatic improvement in ball technology was made. For ones they use at the tour level at least.

Edit: forgot about the Top Flite Strata. That was probably the first modern one and came out in 96/97ish.

bogie 04-27-2005 03:50 PM

I'm a walking Orlimar add. Orlimar driver, fairway wood and irons. I asked the sales guy what the most forgiving clubs were and he said Orlimar. Now they're out of business. He saw me coming. I do like them though. I also have a Perfect Club and I love it! Cleveland 56 and 60. Ping putter.

jspchief 04-27-2005 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogie
I asked the sales guy what the most forgiving clubs were and he said Orlimar. Now they're out of business. He saw me coming.

I learned the hard way that if you ask the salesman for his advice, he's going to try and sell you the club thay have the most mark up on, not the best club.

Boozer 04-27-2005 04:38 PM

Anyway, to answer the OP question...
TaylorMade r580 9.5 degree
(Extremely old school, but metal) Tommy Armour 835 Silver Scot 3 Wood
3-PW Ping I3+
Titleist DCI 56 degree SW
Cheap-ass insert Slotline putter.

bogie 04-27-2005 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
I learned the hard way that if you ask the salesman for his advice, he's going to try and sell you the club thay have the most mark up on, not the best club.

Yep. And he probably new they were going out of business and the price would drop. Live and learn. The good news is, I didn't spend a ton on them compared to other clubs, and I like them.

Skip Towne 04-27-2005 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
Yep..it's pretty rusty right now..on my good days I'm shooting in the high 80's...mostly low 90's...wait til summer you bastage!! My personal best is 79 which I've shot 4 times(Lost Springs). That's all relative though considering the course.

Skip has an old bent wedge he needs to retire...

Philfree claims to be about a scratch golfer to 3-4 handicap...as far as I know, he's about the best player here. I'm more of about a 9 or 10 in the summer when I play more.

You know better than to badmouth my "Magic Wedge". Even though it does have a bent shaft it is very effective you have to admit. It is a Jack Nicklaus "Golden Bear" model. I paid $5 for it out of the used clubs tub.

Skip Towne 04-27-2005 05:12 PM

This may sound stupid but Herzig actually plays better than his scores would indicate. He always manages to step on his dick on one hole every round and get an 8 or 9. Don't know why. I've seen him right near par at the turn more than once and end up with an 86. He's a hell of a match play guy.

Skip Towne 04-27-2005 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herzig
Love the Eye 2's...classic sticks...over 20 years old and a used set still goes for about 250-300 bucks...talk about holding your value...

I hit a hole in one with an Eye 2 SW back in Oct. 99'...lucky shot.

Let me guess...it was on the green that is shaped like Arkansas and your name is on the plaque in the clubhouse.

Skip Towne 04-27-2005 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
I think equipment is ruining the game. How far would Tiger hit them if he still had metal shafts with actual wood woods, and the same golf balls they built in Jack Nicholas' era? Want to Tigerproof a course, take away his clubs.

Agreed.

Skip Towne 04-27-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan
Actually, IMO if you want to level the playing field in pro golf, course design is the way to go. The object is to take the driver out of the bombers' hands, not make the hole distances so long that you simply magnify their advantage.

350-yard holes that don't allow the use of a driver through their design bedevil Tiger and the boys more than a 650-yard par 5s.

You just described Southern Hills in Tulsa.

Over-Head 04-27-2005 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
I think equipment is ruining the game. How far would Tiger hit them if he still had metal shafts with actual wood woods, and the same golf balls they built in Jack Nicholas' era? Want to Tigerproof a course, take away his clubs.

I'll second that!
Just imagine this guy with "Graphite shafts"


http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0109280.html

Ben Hogan
Born: Aug. 13, 1912
-4 time PGA Player of Year
- one of only five players to win all four Grand Slam titles (others are Nicklaus, Player, Sarazen and Woods);
-won 4 U.S. Opens
- 2 Masters
- 2 PGA'ss
-and 1 British Open between 1946-53.
- one of only two players (Woods) to win three of the four current majors in one year when he won Masters, U.S. Open and British Open in 1953
- nearly killed in Feb. 2, 1949 car accident, but came back to win U.S. Open in '50
- third on all-time list with 63 career wins.

Died: July 25, 1997

IMO possibly the best player the game has ever seen.

Miles 04-27-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head
I'll second that!
Just imagine this guy with "Graphite shafts"



Ben Hogan


IMO possibly the best player the game has ever seen.

Hell yea. He did a lot in the way of teaching the modern swing as well.

With all the sports movies over the years it would be cool if someone made one about his accident and that US Open he won after comming back.

http://cheap-posters.net/posters/S2804.jpg

Skip Towne 04-27-2005 06:01 PM

Yes, Boozer, I actually did start with hickory shafted clubs in about 1957. I couldn't afford a set so I borrowed them from a guy who didn't play much. For about 30 years, someone in the golf industry came out with a new gimmick every year. One year it was a reverse twist in the shaft to counteract torque and was sure to improve your accuracy. It didn't. So I've always said "It ain't the arrow, It's the Indian". But it's not that way anymore, it's the arrow. I hadn't played in about 10 years when I played a few times with Herzig. I was amazed at how much distance those oversized drivers created. I could hit Greg's driver 30 yards farther than my Big Bertha Warbird.

whoman69 04-27-2005 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCTrojan
Actually, IMO if you want to level the playing field in pro golf, course design is the way to go. The object is to take the driver out of the bombers' hands, not make the hole distances so long that you simply magnify their advantage.

350-yard holes that don't allow the use of a driver through their design bedevil Tiger and the boys more than a 650-yard par 5s.

Making courses longer plays right into the longer hitters advantage. Now you have the shorter hitters needing longer clubs just to make the hole on par. The only thing you can do to Tiger is to put rough and sand where he wants to hit his drives.

Skip Towne 04-27-2005 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69
Making courses longer plays right into the longer hitters advantage. Now you have the shorter hitters needing longer clubs just to make the hole on par. The only thing you can do to Tiger is to put rough and sand where he wants to hit his drives.

Several years ago, one of the British courses "Tigerized" the course. They moved several fairway traps out to 265 yards. When asked how he would handle that Tiger replied "fly it". I've never seen ANYONE take such a vicious cut at a golf ball as Tiger Woods.

Stinger 04-27-2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne
I've never seen ANYONE take such a vicious cut at a golf ball as Tiger Woods.

hehe ... oh I have seen people take vicious cuts at a golf ball like Tiger but I have yet to see anyone get the results like him :D

Herzig 04-27-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
This may sound stupid but Herzig actually plays better than his scores would indicate. He always manages to step on his dick on one hole every round and get an 8 or 9. Don't know why. I've seen him right near par at the turn more than once and end up with an 86. He's a hell of a match play guy.

I hate it when I step on my dick. Ouch.

Hey Mike....Guess who was playing behind me today at Paradise Valley?.... Nolan Richardson. I got him to autograph my golf glove just for you since you're such a big fan of his.

Boozer 04-27-2005 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Yes, Boozer, I actually did start with hickory shafted clubs in about 1957. I couldn't afford a set so I borrowed them from a guy who didn't play much. For about 30 years, someone in the golf industry came out with a new gimmick every year. One year it was a reverse twist in the shaft to counteract torque and was sure to improve your accuracy. It didn't. So I've always said "It ain't the arrow, It's the Indian". But it's not that way anymore, it's the arrow. I hadn't played in about 10 years when I played a few times with Herzig. I was amazed at how much distance those oversized drivers created. I could hit Greg's driver 30 yards farther than my Big Bertha Warbird.

Jeez, I was joking about the hickory shafts. ROFL

As I said earlier, though, the Indian/arrow effect is much greater for the duffer than it is for the touring pro. I've got almost a thousand dollars in my bag, but I don't think I could get within 25 strokes of Tiger/Phil/Vijay/Ernie/etc. even if you were to outfit them with a $99 K-Mart set. That might be a bit of an exaggeration, but does anyone doubt that one of those guys could break 75 on an average publinks with WallyWorld clubs, having never swung them before?

Archie F. Swin 04-28-2005 07:15 AM

When it comes to golf, the more important question would be: "What's in your sack?"

Herzig 04-28-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin
When it comes to golf, the more important question would be: "What's in your sack?"

Nuts. (padding the ol' post count)

Herzig 05-06-2005 05:34 AM

Golfers...here's a couple of great golf message boards. Naptown...check out the Golf Aficionados(GEA) "Swap Shop". It's a great place to get bargains on great equipment.

Golf Aficionados here: http://forums.prospero.com/golfequip/messages

The Golf Channel here: http://forums.prospero.com/gc-golf/messages

PastorMikH 05-06-2005 07:10 AM

I missed this thread.


Driver is a Callaway Hawkeye 9 degree
King Snake 5 wood
Some of the best Ping Zing clones around 1 iron through LW. - though I usually leave the 1 & 2 at home to make the 14 limit.
some cheap putter I picked up for $15 but is the best putting putter I've used

WilliamTheIrish 05-06-2005 04:31 PM

I am sad to report that my 16 year old Cleveland Launcher is dead.

I was hitting at the range today and on one swing it made a weird sound. When I looked up to see the flight of the ball, all I saw was the club head flying gracefully through the air.

Never saw the ball.....

stevieray 05-06-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
I am sad to report that my 16 year old Cleveland Launcher is dead.

I was hitting at the range today and on one swing it made a weird sound. When I looked up to see the flight of the ball, all I saw was the club head flying gracefully through the air.

Never saw the ball.....

prolly a threehundredyarder. figures, huh?

Phobia 05-06-2005 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
I am sad to report that my 16 year old Cleveland Launcher is dead.

I was hitting at the range today and on one swing it made a weird sound. When I looked up to see the flight of the ball, all I saw was the club head flying gracefully through the air.

Never saw the ball.....

It's probably for the best. Hopefully your next driver will be kinder to you.


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