How much do you blame Alaird Baird ?
 

Reading from the Star articles , he mentioned no spending cap this season. Therefore , he believed if we brought in some expensive free agent bats then it would reerun the 'new' guys. But the new guys may not pan out !

This is his youth movement. He won't pay any big money for big names. Get used to it. It's not going to change.

Well how are you going to know whether or not the "new guys" are going to pan out unless you play them? I don't understand why Kansas City sports fans have such a hard time with the concept of developing young players. Seems like if you aren't signing proven free agents or if rookies don't come in playing at peak potential, it's not good enough. You see it with the Chiefs, look at Larry Johnson, no one thought he'd ever become anything because he didn't blow the league away right off the bat, same with Dante, and now I'd say it's with Kawika Mitchell... maybe all sports fans are like that, I don't know.

I would say 80% of the blame for the team's futility lies in the BS competitive balance of baseball. 20% lies in poor draft picks and development (Not all of which is baird's fault, much of that was happening before his tenure)

I wish they would go ahead and get rid of the rest, like Sweeney. When they got rid of Randa, the message was very clear. He was an absolute bargain IMO. At least two full years of suckage on tap. :banghead:

The only problem I have with Baird, it seems he might be too involved in the role of the players on the team. An example, it seems that HE is the one that determined that Afflect would be in the bullpen versus the starting rotation. I can't tell you if that's the right move or not but the manager (Pena) should make those decisions.

This is, at its heart, a fairweather city. The fairweather fans are gone now, but rest assured they'll be choking up the ticket lines when the team is good again, to make it harder on those of us who have been here all along.

SweenEy

Sweeney's batting .328 and slugging .612. Getting rid of him at this juncture makes zero sense, unless you're one of those people that's into self inflicted suffering.

It would make sense to trade him for prospects, but think about it. When you go to the K, who gets the loudest cheer during the lineups? Who makes everyone pay attention when they get to the plate? Who's the one that all the little kids in the seats know and want to be like?

Maybe it's the right time to deal him. But he's about the only thing left out there tearing tickets. Take sweeney off the team, and it has NO identity if it even has one now with Pena gone. Talk about your faceless, unremarkable team with no one that endears themself to anyone.

Hey, it worked for Miami and their no name defense. :p

Hmmm...yea, id say it has alot to do with Baird. Im sure hes a "Nice Guy" but so far he sucks at running the Royals. Lets see...he hired Pena, what did he get in return for Beltran? for Dye? for Damon? What pitcher has he develeped into a consistant winner?? Most of this falls on him and Glass of course...

Are you on drugs? Seriously? That's the one area where Baird has been outstanding. The Dye trade was horrific but the last 3-4 years you'd be hard pressed to find many GM's who've done a better job wheeling and dealing for prospects than Baird.

Who really cares? I used to be a big Royals fan (since 1973) but the strike in the 90's and David Glass ruined my attitude! Don't see any difference today.

Are you kidding me???? If we had talent on this team we wouldnt be in the predictament we are in now! Sure he wheels and deals, you can wheel and deal all day long but who cares if they players you are getting suck???

Guys like Teahen, Bautista and Huber suck? You know this already?

No of course not, im willing to give them a chance, but do you think any of these players will have the impact that Beltran did?? I wished he could have gotten a future "Superstar" like Beltran. So far i diont see that in any of the players we got for him.They might become decent, but hardly anything special.

How do you know that? All of these guys we've traded for have some great tools to work with. None of those guys probably will become quite as good as Beltran, but in baseball it's far better to have 9 "good" players than a couple "superstars" and a bunch of other junk.... especially if you have good pitching.

Sorry, i love the Royals and want to see them succeed as much as anyone here, but color me just a little jaded after 20 years of this BS.

Well I understand that, but this is the first time we've really done this under Baird and Glass. If it fails, it fails, but I think the majority of the mismanagement of the team has come under a different GM when the team didn't have an owner. I've been screaming for us to do it this way ever since I've been on this board, so I'm glad we're finally giving it a shot, and I think Baird's stubborn enough to stick with it. We'll see.

Plus, I should add, we're actually doing it around pitching this time, which to me is the most important part of doing this...

Now theres something we can both agree on.

we knew we were going to suck this year play our guys get experience shoot for 2006 or 2007 and hope it doesn't turn out like the indians of this year. The indians went youth and this was supposed to be their time and they aren't living upto expectations

Thanks for the spelling help. A little lazy on that one!



So with Sweeney playing maybe the Royals win 50 games instead of 40?
If you are trying to only suck 80% I guess he needs to play. Sucking 80% still sucks. Who could be getting playing time with the rest of the young ones that isn't? I guess that is the way I look at it.

Baird has grown as a GM. At first he was awful, as bad as his predecessor, Herk Robinson. Last year, he stole some serious talent, getting Bautista and Justin Huber, who is one of the best-hitting prospects in all of baseball for absolutely nothing.

The reason we suck is we are still paying the price for Herk Robinson and early Allard Baird drafting strategies.

He gets some of the blame, his trades have been so so. Berroa, Teahan could be players for us. The Dye was a killer, we should have gotten an outfielder out of that. Sweeney needs to be dealt somehow we can get an outfielder and relif pitcher.

What bad trade has Baird made besides the Dye trade?!

Baird got Huber, Bautista, and Leo Nunez for NOTHING; other than Dye, it's difficult to fault him for acquiring talent.

I can't believe no one is talking about Baird's comments today! :eek:

"Winning is my no. 1 priority in life. Yes, my family is important, but they are No. 2"

:|

It almost makes you wonder. A guy like Roy Williams sits there and says it doesn't matter, win or lose I'm going to play golf tomorrow. he wins the nationals champiosnhip.

Allard Baird says the Royals are the most important thing in his life. yet, they suck donkey balls! :(

Sometimes you wonder...

Also, would someone neg rep me or something. I'm so fuckin tired of "cmh is drug free and readily employable!" :|

If you want some more good news, Sweeney's out of the lineup tonight with a strained oblique. When I'd initially saw he was pulled out of the lineup I'd thought we'd traded him, but I should've known better.

On a good note, the Royals are leading 3-0!

YEAH!

Is this the first time this year we have scored more than 1 run back to back? I am sure it isn't but it has to be one of the only times!

Kazmir just threw something like 13 straight balls. ROFL

he might suck worse than Lima :|

Tehean strikes out looking.

Rally killers. :shake:

Jorge Cantu looks like his face caught fire and someone put it out with a rake.

I assume you saw that Kyle Snyder's hurt again. *sigh* :shake:

ROFL

No way, he's one of the best pitching prospects in baseball.

Welcome our next KC Royals Manager:

Wal Mart Man!
Greetings!

No, with what?

Strained right shoulder.

DJ is starting tomorrow? Anyone else hear that?

Third K for Lima. :)

Well that's great. That was the one thing that had finally gone right so far, but now Anderson, Sweeney, and Snyder go down in a week. Oh well, we've got offensive mastermind Bob Schaefer to lead the way.

I think he's taking Anderson's spot in the rotation. Anderson's on the DL.

Berroa at leadoff. Why didn't we think of that? :doh!:

Let's not forget that Bautista and Hernandez have not been cleared yet either.

28 Ks, 4 walks on the season??? Sounds like a PERFECT candidate for leadoff!

:banghead:

Kazmir's having problems with lefties. :hmmm:

You know what also sucks is Donnie Murphy got hurt right before he might've been called up to replace Gotay.

Yes, but what does it matter of you have no idea what you are doing?? I think Baird is in WAY over his head. This team blows from the top down. From Mr. Wal mart to Baird, to Pena, to the scouts, to the minors.......its awful. Been saying it for years....

Yeah, if nothing else we'd have a pretty solid defense up the middle I think. If Murphy can come up and hit I wouldn't mind making Gotay a utility-type guy that can play all around the field.

Brown with a double, Stairs scores!!!

Emil Brown is en fuego.

I spit on that double play. :banghead:

Long RBI, 5-0 Royals!!!

Long with his first SB of the year!

Long to third on error by pitcher...

I don't know why he thinks that, given his career .320 OBP and 66 walks in 1337 at-bats.

But I also understand most of the rest of the lineup isn't any better. Indeed, whoever manages has really got his hands tied offensively. At least Schaefer's trying to think of different approaches, even though I'm skeptical of their long-term success. They just need better hitters, period. Or, at least, some of these young hitters to develop soon.

But as I said in the preseason, I look at 2005 as the pitcher development year. Next year is hitter development. Hopefully by 2007 both ends will come together and we'll be competitive.

I do like Schaefer's ideas on the bullpen.

Buck strikes out. :banghead:

But another good inning by the Royals.

I'm sorry, but i'm so sick of hearing from so-called fans who have no idea what they are talking about.

Beltran struggled a lot in his 2nd year, more then a few people thought he might turn out to be a bust. His 2nd year in the big leagues he batted .247 with 7 HR and 44 RBIs in almost 400 at bats. So don't act like Beltran or any other star in this league just came into the majors and were immediate All Stars, because it doesn't work like that. Many people on here have a selective memory about things like this, but it is pretty sad that guys like Teahen, Gotay, Buck, Dejesus, etc. are already considered bums with no potential because they have not made a seamless transition to MLB.

Im not saying any of those guys are BUSTS. Im sure they will turn out to be solid players. None of them will be Superstars like Beltran though.

HOW DO YOU KNOW??? Do you have a crystal ball? That is pretty amazing that you have such a good grasp on baseball scouting that you can tell after 11 professional games that Mark Teahen does not have what it takes to be a superstar in this league. Why are you wasting time on this board, you should be the head of a scouting department for some MLB team.

:rolleyes:

Great to see the Royals have not forgotten how to potentially piss away another game. I have a feeling Kazmir settles down and shuts us out the rest of the way and we give up the lead to lose another one run game.

Ok... Debbie Downer. :rolleyes:

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If only we had the nattering nabobs of chiefsplanet in the personnel department, they'd be raising flags every eyar.

Lima blows another 5 run lead. Not pitching bad but still blew it.

Tie game, so what? We'll come back.

WE WILL NOT BE DENIED!

that makes a lot of sense.

You ever noticed how you come around when the Royals blow, get blown out or lose a lead? :hmmm:

Couple of the run scoring hits were just some ground balls. He isn't getting shelled or anything...few of them were 0-2 hits. It makes a lot of sense.

I believe I was commenting on the game when it was 3-0 as well. Maybe you should pay a littl emore attention hmmm? And considering we generaly don't hold a lead for more than 1 inning it leaves little room to speak of the positive.

The big deal is it was one out away from being an official game. This game will probably not go 9. There is is a huge storm complex on the western side of the Metro moving east. Weatherguys say once the rain start it will continue through the night.

The rain is downtown now, they probably have 20 min. max.

Well let's hope we can keep it tied at the least. As the rain starts to pour!

*sigh*

This game is sucking now.