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Andoverer 07-01-2005 10:37 AM

Ambrose signs with Chiefs
 
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/07...shley_ambrose/

Now Ty Law can sign with Tampa Bay

beer bacon 07-01-2005 10:38 AM

Bleh. Why Ambrose.

nmt1 07-01-2005 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
Bleh. Why Ambrose.

$$$

ptlyon 07-01-2005 10:39 AM

Wow.

Andoverer 07-01-2005 10:39 AM

Must have thought Law wasn't going to be affordable with several teams interested.

Dave Lane 07-01-2005 10:41 AM

Cannon Fodder.

Dave

BigMeatballDave 07-01-2005 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
Bleh. Why Ambrose.

Who else?

beer bacon 07-01-2005 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmt1
$$$

Beasley would have been cheap :(

nmt1 07-01-2005 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
Beasley would have been cheap :(

Beasley = Ambrose = every other CB available with the exception of Law.

TRing 07-01-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
Beasley would have been cheap :(

i agree. so would washington. but we shall wait and see how this turns out

Miles 07-01-2005 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
Who else?

Beasley or Dewayne Washington.

beer bacon 07-01-2005 10:46 AM

I don't feel comfortable bringing in a 34 year old vet who played in six games last year.

TRing 07-01-2005 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
I don't feel comfortable bringing in a 34 year old vet who played in six games last year.

me neither. i but you know we didnt see how these guys looked. maybe ambrose worked his ass off during the offseason and looked good. there has to be something behind this rather than just picking him up just to fill that roster spot.

Iowanian 07-01-2005 10:50 AM

Relax. He's not a starter....He's veteran Depth, and a safety valve for Warfield's suspension, and if injuries are there.

I wanted another Vet, and he can play alright for the short periods the Chiefs may need him. I'd have prefered Washington, but this isn't teh suck.

RedThat 07-01-2005 10:50 AM

I pray and hope to God the Raiders don't get Owens. Ambrose on Owens or Moss???? :deevee:

Brock 07-01-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
I don't feel comfortable bringing in a 34 year old vet who played in six games last year.

Would you feel more comfortable bringing in a 31 year old vet who played in 7 games last year, and who would want 6 million dollars per season?

ZootedGranny 07-01-2005 10:51 AM

RAY CROCKETT REMIX SON!

*FLEX BOMB*
http://www.thedjlist.com/images/djs/...2611340497.jpg

alpha_omega 07-01-2005 10:51 AM

Better than nothing.

Miles 07-01-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
I don't feel comfortable bringing in a 34 year old vet who played in six games last year.

Prior to last year he had missed just one game in his previous ten season.

keg in kc 07-01-2005 10:53 AM

Yawn.

Maybe we'll sign two.

beer bacon 07-01-2005 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
Would you feel more comfortable bringing in a 31 year old vet who played in 7 games last year, and who would want 6 million dollars per season?

I would have preferred to bring in Beasley who was a solid nickle for a good defense last year, and who probably wouldn't have cost any more then Ambrose.

Brando 07-01-2005 10:53 AM

Our secondary will be much improved not only by the additions of Kight and Surtain but also by improved linebacker play. We're actually going to have a linebacker unit that can make plays this year which will help the pass rush...blah blah blah. All in all this move doesn't excite me but it doesn't upset me either.

brorth 07-01-2005 10:54 AM

Who's gonna sit with me in the AA support section?

ct 07-01-2005 10:54 AM

Ah well, as someone pointed out, he is replacing Julian Battle, so we're still looking at an improvement here!

TRing 07-01-2005 10:56 AM

Is deion still out there???? ahhh "F" it!

Bootlegged 07-01-2005 11:00 AM

Good. Has to be better than Barleon.

teedubya 07-01-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brando
Our secondary will be much improved not only by the additions of Kight and Surtain but also by improved linebacker play. We're actually going to have a linebacker unit that can make plays this year which will help the pass rush...blah blah blah. All in all this move doesn't excite me but it doesn't upset me either.

since when did the Chiefs become 'WE' for you? :hmmm:

the Scanlon works in mysterious ways... I 'spose

BigMeatballDave 07-01-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles
Beasley or Dewayne Washington.

As if there is a difference?

HolmeZz 07-01-2005 11:10 AM

Googled Ambrose and this was the first thing I got...

http://www.nfl.com/images/photos/200...e4Q_110401.jpg

:deevee:

Another downside is that we can't rip the Donks for having a guy named Ashley on their team.

This has got bad news written all over it. :harumph:

shakesthecat 07-01-2005 11:12 AM

Eh, I've got no problem with Ambrose. Sure he's a little long in the tooth, but he can't be any worse than Battle would have been.

Miles 07-01-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
As if there is a difference?

The other two are younger and were not a part of the Saints horrid secondary for the past two seasons. Though he could still be a servicable nickle and unlike Bartee, can make the occasional pick.

ct 07-01-2005 11:23 AM

I'd have much preferred Beasley, then Washington, then Ambrose out of the 4 we brought in for a look. But for those of you who say Beasley and Washington would also have been on the cheap, we really don't know this do we? I think that Beasley in particular has good justification in setting his price much over the vet minimum.

Brando 07-01-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs
since when did the Chiefs become 'WE' for you? :hmmm:

the Scanlon works in mysterious ways... I 'spose

Ever since my AH bled profusely after forking over $$ for season tix two years ago. We've had this discussion before my friend.
It's kind of like how I now root for KU after looking up their cheerleaders skirts at the Phog on one wonderful Saturday afternoon.

ct 07-01-2005 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brando
Ever since my AH bled profusely after forking over $$ for season tix two years ago. We've had this discussion before my friend.
It's kind of like how I now root for KU after looking up their cheerleaders skirts at the Phog on one wonderful Saturday afternoon.

Can't argue w/ dat!

Brando 07-01-2005 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by coryt
Can't argue w/ dat!

I thought that one poor little blonde cheerleader was saying, "read my lips..no more baskets", gotta love the courtside view, and I don't mean the lips on her face :whackit:

BigMeatballDave 07-01-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Googled Ambrose and this was the first thing I got...

http://www.nfl.com/images/photos/200...e4Q_110401.jpg

:deevee:

Another downside is that we can't rip the Donks for having a guy named Ashley on their team.

This has got bad news written all over it. :harumph:

Jesus H. Christ. All he is, is insurance. Do you really think we could afford Law?

Gaz 07-01-2005 11:33 AM

Okay...
 

Fine with me.

xoxo~
Gaz
Neither excited nor outraged.

Archie Bunker 07-01-2005 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz

Fine with me.

xoxo~
Gaz
Neither excited nor outraged.

My thoughts exactly.

beer bacon 07-01-2005 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter
Some moron broke the post. :drool:

Don't worry. I think your table breaking/forum busting post is beautiful.

Otter 07-01-2005 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
Don't worry. I think your table breaking/forum busting post is beautiful.

Heh, my HTML is a little rusty. Do you know what happend there?

beer bacon 07-01-2005 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter
Heh, my HTML is a little rusty. Do you know what happend there?

No idea, but it was completely unique. I have never seen the breakage creep out to the side of the page like that!

HolmeZz 07-01-2005 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
Jesus H. Christ. All he is, is insurance. Do you really think we could afford Law?

I was joking, as is the tone of probably 95% of my posts.

Miles 07-01-2005 11:51 AM

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tyton75 07-01-2005 12:02 PM

Better than Battle.. thats the only reason we signed him anyway

jspchief 07-01-2005 12:19 PM

I'm fine with it. We needed another experienced body at CB, and Ambrose provides it.

The only thing I'll say is I would have preferred Beasley because I think he would have been a noted improvement at nickel once Warfield returned. Hopefully Ambrose can beat out McCleon.

beavis 07-01-2005 12:23 PM

Can't be any worse than McCleon. Ok by me.

TEX 07-01-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by beavis
Can't be any worse than McCleon. Ok by me.

Don't hold your breath...

kc rush 07-01-2005 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief
Hopefully Ambrose can beat out McCleon.

If he can't, the first 4 game could be scary.

Simplex3 07-01-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Another downside is that we can't rip the Donks for having a guy named Ashley on their team.

They still have a guy named Rod and a QB who's nickname is "The Snake". They also added a Courtney. Plenty of latent homosexual jokes left in Donkeyville if you just look.

B_Ambuehl 07-01-2005 12:38 PM

Ambrose should be a good team player. He got screwed out of a job last year because of his age. I remember reading an article on him before the season last year. It said he busted his ass year in and year out and even moreso at the age of 33 just to try to hang on to his job. He gladly helped the guys under him even though he knew the coaching staff was grooming those guys to take his job but he did it without complaining.

Simplex3 07-01-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl
Ambrose should be a good team player. He got screwed out of a job last year because of his age. I remember reading an article on him before the season last year. It said he busted his ass year in and year out and even moreso at the age of 33 just to try to hang on to his job. He gladly helped the guys under him even though he knew the coaching staff was grooming those guys to take his job but he did it without complaining.

What? Actual good info from a noob! YES!

jspchief 07-01-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc rush
If he can't, the first 4 game could be scary.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's a sure thing that he's going to replace McCleon. Ambrose only has a few months to learn a system that Dexter has already been a starter in.

Once Warfield is back, who knows? Personally I think McCleon might be a decent nickel. It will let him play more like he did in '03, when he was better for us. The only thing is, anyone that watches '04 game tape will know he's a liability and probably pick on him.

Edubs 07-01-2005 12:46 PM

Ambrose 42 Interceptions = Not to bad

Bartee 0 Interceptions = Donkey Dick

Ultra Peanut 07-01-2005 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
Would you feel more comfortable bringing in a 31 year old vet who played in 7 games last year, and who would want 6 million dollars per season?

Woooooooord!

Edubs 07-01-2005 12:47 PM

You think Woods can play any nickel? I am pretty sure that Wesley played a little last year.

Brando 07-01-2005 12:49 PM

Ambrose should keep McValueMealcleon from Super Sizing YAC. At least if Ambrose blows we'll have someone new to pile on.

beer bacon 07-01-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brando
Ambrose should keep McValueMealcleon from Super Sizing YAC. At least if Ambrose blows we'll have someone new to pile on.

Tom Cruise is a psychopath.

Frankie 07-01-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon
I don't feel comfortable bringing in a 34 year old vet who played in six games last year.

We only need him for 4 games.

KCChiefsMan 07-01-2005 12:55 PM

hey I dont mind this move one bit. A cheap vet is what we needed (take a look at the Patriots over the past 4 years). I'd rather have him starting the first 4 games then McCleon. Once Warfield comes back we will have nice depth and a solid nickel, it's not a bad move and its a step up

HC_Chief 07-01-2005 12:59 PM

Sweet!

This is the best offseason I can remember :thumb:

TRR 07-01-2005 01:07 PM

I've heard that Beasley came in to KC out of shape. They were wanting someone who could come in and compete right away. Ambrose is long in the tooth, but is still a very capable CB.

AA will give McCleon a run for his money...

The main thing to remember is Ambrose is twice the CB Julian Battle is.

Frankie 07-01-2005 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR
The main thing to remember is Ambrose is twice the CB Julian Battle is.

Almost three times now.

jcroft 07-01-2005 01:11 PM

I don't see how anyone can really complain about this. You may have preferred someone else, but this is an obvious upgrade (albeit a minor one) at virtually no cost.

I, like Gaz, am neither excited nor upset by the move. It's a solid, smart move, but not one that should cause any serious reactions either way.

whoman69 07-01-2005 01:13 PM

This is a good sign. Realistically, he will not be on the team longer than this season, when our depth is in question. We need to hit this position in the draft next year.

ct 07-01-2005 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft
I don't see how anyone can really complain about this. You may have preferred someone else, but this is an obvious upgrade (albeit a minor one) at virtually no cost.

I, like Gaz, am neither excited nor upset by the move. It's a solid, smart move, but not one that should cause any serious reactions either way.

I disagree. Signing almost any vet CB to replace Battle and provide some competition with Dexter makes me feel better. Doesn't mean it'll actually work, but hey, better chance than doin nutin! Defnitely beats McCleon, Sapp, Hodge, and Perkins fighting for a starting spot! Think about that one.

jcroft 07-01-2005 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coryt
I disagree. Signing almost any vet CB to replace Battle and provide some competition with Dexter makes me feel better. Doesn't mean it'll actually work, but hey, better chance than doin nutin! Defnitely beats McCleon, Sapp, Hodge, and Perkins fighting for a starting spot! Think about that one.

I agree completely. I don't see how we are disagreeing. That's almost exactly what I said -- this is a solid, smart move and an upgrade. Isn't that what I said?

DTLB58 07-01-2005 01:20 PM

I like it! At least we are doing something this year when something bad happens instead of just standing pat.

DV just said a few days ago we are going to be patient and see how things play out. :hmmm: Wonder what happened or was he just blowing smoke up our arses......again.

Mr. Laz 07-01-2005 01:22 PM

Chiefs agree to terms with CB Ambrose
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — The Kansas City Chiefs agreed to terms with free-agent cornerback Ashley Ambrose on Friday.
The 13-year veteran started six games for the New Orleans Saints last year. Ambrose was drafted in the second round by Indianapolis in 1992 and has also played for Cincinnati and Atlanta.

The 34-year-old Ambrose has played in 192 regular-season games, recording 550 tackles and 42 interceptions. Ambrose had his best season in 1996 with the Bengals, with eight interceptions. That year, he was a Pro Bowl starter and AFC defensive back of the year.

ct 07-01-2005 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft
I agree completely. I don't see how we are disagreeing. That's almost exactly what I said -- this is a solid, smart move and an upgrade. Isn't that what I said?

Well no, since I re-worded to my own liking, so that I could justify a disagreement. :p

Seriously, just sounded like you were 'Eh..' to this signing, but I am more like 'EH..' to it.

jcroft 07-01-2005 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coryt
Well no, since I re-worded to my own liking, so that I could justify a disagreement. :p

Seriously, just sounded like you were 'Eh..' to this signing, but I am more like 'EH..' to it.

Well, I'm very glad they went out and got a CB. Ambrose is an improvement and so I'm happy about it. But, Ambrose is not someone who is going to make me jump up up and shout, that's all.

htismaqe 07-01-2005 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft
Well, I'm very glad they went out and got a CB. Ambrose is an improvement and so I'm happy about it. But, Ambrose is not someone who is going to make me jump up up and shout, that's all.

That's how I feel about it.

Chief Faithful 07-01-2005 01:37 PM

I feel Ambrose is a better than average CB, which is better than anyone from the roster last year with the exception of Warfield. A solid veteran at rock bottom price to help out in the short term is a good move.

IMO: this will allow Sapp to stay at nickel, McCleon on the bench, and Hodge time to develop. Then when Warfield returns Ambrose will make a nice nickel back. I see Barftee or Woods as the DB in the dime package. If things workout maybe McCleon will play for the Donkey's this year. :)

Gravedigger 07-01-2005 01:42 PM

I'm all for it better than battle

ct 07-01-2005 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcroft
Well, I'm very glad they went out and got a CB. Ambrose is an improvement and so I'm happy about it. But, Ambrose is not someone who is going to make me jump up up and shout, that's all.

I'll reserve that reaction for when he returns a Flake INT for a TD on MNF!

KCChiefsMan 07-01-2005 01:51 PM

2004 Ashley Ambrose: 9 games, 25 tackles, 3 ints, 6 pass def


It's not like he's our marquee free agent this off-season just another guy to fill a role and add depth and experience. Now if he were our only choice to try and upgrade a secondary than I'd be pissed about it, but I'm happy that he's coming to KC because we need depth and he's had a solid career

Mile High Mania 07-01-2005 01:56 PM

I think this was a good signing for KC... he's not a bad guy, he's getting older, but still has good value.

crispystl 07-01-2005 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull
I pray and hope to God the Raiders don't get Owens. Ambrose on Owens or Moss???? :deevee:

Oh god that's no shit right there.
i could see myself consuming lots of hard alcohol if I have to watch that trainwreck.

HemiEd 07-01-2005 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger
I'm all for it better than battle


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
I think this was a good signing for KC... he's not a bad guy, he's getting older, but still has good value.


These two quotes represent my feelings. Insurance against the Warfield suspension.

KCChiefsMan 07-01-2005 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl420
Oh god that's no shit right there.
i could see myself consuming lots of hard alcohol if I have to watch that trainwreck.


Eagles | Owens Trade Laughable
Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:25:26 -0700

Ruben Franks, of phillyBurbs.com, reports a Philadelphia Eagles official laughed off broadcast rumors that had the Eagles and Oakland Raiders discussing a trade that would ship disgruntled WR Terrell Owens to Oakland for WR Jerry Porter. "It won't happen," he said.

TRing 07-01-2005 03:02 PM

No i am going to go ahead and gaurantee that Owens doesn't go to the Eagles. They have Porter and it would be ignorant to take up that much cap space on 2 WRs.


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