Clayton says Law is still in play
 

Courtesy a headsup from GA_Chief_KU and the Chiefscoalition board.

John Clayton was on ESPN Radio's the huddle, and said the following:

There are 4 teams still interested: Jacksonville, Kansas City, Miami and Tampa Bay.

Of the 4, Jacksonville has the most cap room, with around 5.7 mil. The next closest is Kansas City with around 3.5, and Miami and Tampa are trying to grab him for the league minimum.

When the Chiefs signed Ashley Ambrose, they told him they are still persuing Law.

Sean Salisbury also said that Law is looking great, and is cutting, but thinks that the foot is still a "tad bit ginger" and is 2 to 3 weeks away from a being ready for a full workout.

Audio of the conversation:

http://home.kc.rr.com/mkbaslee/clayton_huddle.mp3

or

s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0VKFQTFXUECYE0LCDI37G6ABD7

Great, here we go!

You could have saved all of us a lot of trouble by not posting this....

I'm thinking a neg rep bomb is in order for anyone who starts a Law thread unless that thread is concerning him signing somewhere or announcing his retirement.

My source in the KC area also says they are still very interested in Law for the right price.

I'm going to LMAO if the Chiefs sign Law. Yes, Tampa has more money that us, but we have enough to sign him, reguardless of what the Planet capologist think. IMO, it'll come down to how much money he wants upfront, and if Lamar is willing to shell out the bucks it'll take to land Law here.

Now, what gets me, I find it REAL odd that a group of Chief fans act like the Chiefs won't need Law. Out window to the Superbowl is closing with several of our offensive stars getting close to retirement. It's not the time to worry about having a "competitive team" in the future. It's time to worry about NOW and get a bad ass defense to go along with our bad ass offense. I could care less if the Chiefs have the 4th or 5th best team in football 3-4 years from now. I want to see them win the Superbowl, and letting a Pro-Bowl CB walk after yeilding the leagues worst defense is just plain stupid.

I would love to have Ty Law as well. But I am concerned about his injury. Anyone can get out there and run around in shorts and T-Shirts. Sly Morris could do that with the best of them. But how is that foot going to hold up when the pads go on?

I would hate to see KC shell out big bucks for a guy who may end up being a shell of his former self.

If we have 3.5 million available cap space (now I'm not sure if that includes the rookie cap or not) ... Carl ought to get Law signed.... there are creative ways to get the job done. Yeah, I know it will not be kind to our next year's cap but this is the year we should be going all out for!!! Sure, all those O players maybe be back next year; sure, the young D player may develop into studs by next year; but ....... one think most of us know is that there is an excellent opportunity for this coming year. A proven CB like Law would go a long way to getting us there.

Now ... I hear your whinning about not another Law thread ... I think it is 99% we do not sign him. But, with 1% I can hold out hope until he retires, or signs elsewhere.

But, I do want us to go all out for this year!!!

I didn't realize we had that much cap space...

Very few people have said we don't need and/or want him. Hell, the price seems to be going down on him every day. If he signs cheap it will be for one year. He's convinced he's still the top CB in the league and wants to be paid like it.

The question will become if he decides to "prove" to the Pats he was a major part of their dynasty. If he gets that wrapped around his head he'll sign in KC. If he keeps his head wrapped in $$$, I think he'll be a Jag.

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And TRR, who said that right price had to be cheap. At least that is what I am assuming you are inferring. It could be a two part signing bonus or something along those lines.

The price will still have to be cheap for KC to sign Law. I don't think they will sign Law for anything more than veterans minimum. However, I could be wrong.

If KC throws a big deal at Law, I'm afraid they will regret it.

That alone makes me want to get this guy. We need guys on the defense that think they are the best in the NFL. Not just guys who hope they make the team on one of the worst defenses in the NLF.

And I am afraid they will regret it if they don't. Visions of McCleon holding down the fort opposite of Surtain does nothing for me.

We already have that guy in Pat Surtain.

I don't have any visions of McCleon holding down the fort. I am very comfortable with Ashley Ambrose starting opposite Surtain.

...and Sammy Knight and Kendrell Bell.

Me neither! That is surprising!! Reading that raises my hopes a tad. I had totally written him off after the recent signing. CP can use the 3.5 with a big signing bonus and make it happen.

I suspect they are still concerned about his foot??? Oh, and YES, C.P. is trying to get him as cheap as possible.

I like the sound of the best D.B.s in the NFL!!!!! Mix in a greatly improved LBer corps. And hopefully ... allow the DL to rise above 04 performances and we have a great cake in the oven!!! Making it hot on opposing O. Wouldn't that be fun to watch week after week.

Ambrose would have been a starter last year if the coaches hadn't been hell-bent on a youth movement.

the bottom line is carl has a hard on for law, and we just might get him.

Plus, if Shields, Roaf, and some of the other older guys retire next season as has been hinted, wouldn't that cap space be available next year if a two part signing bonus is structured in this contract?

So Surtain stops guys like Moss. Meanwhile, Porter has a career day on the other side of the field...

You can always find the room. The problem is Law wants to be payed like Pat Surtain. Do you really think Law is worth that much coming off a major injury?

And I'de hate even worse to watch Law play like his former self while teams are picking us to pieces through the air (expecially during Warfields suspension). If we had a healthy Law and Surtain starting and Warfield playing nickle, it's going to force opponents to play a one dimensional offense. And all of us know what Gun can do to a one dimensional offense (see Atlanta game last year). If we have unused cap space left going into this season, while a guys available that has the potential to be a playmaker, SPEND THE DAMN MONEY.

Pure speculation. Ambrose has been a solid CB in the league for years and in my opinion, is on the same level as Eric Warfield.

Correct!!! And if they do sign him and he doesn't play to expectations ... what will we lose? Cap room for next year? So what!!!! It's not like we have not struck out with players in the past. At least he has a lot more potential upside than most others we have signed in recent years.

If we have not chance at him I'll shut my mouth. But, if we have a shot and C.P. blows it then ........................

Awful easy to spend someone elses money on risky investments, huh?

Something about that statement does not make me feel any better about AA. I'm just lukewarm on AA at best. I saw a couple of his interceptions last year on TV this weekend. There were no offensive players anywhere around him. Just very crappy throws by the QB's/ blown routes by the WR's.

This year is it for the offense as we know it. Yes, I think Law is worth it.

Fans and media have been saying that for the last couple of seasons about the offense.

That money was provided to Lamar by the fans that spend $80 to plant their asses in their seats, pay $20 to park their damn car, and $6 for a friggin' beer. The fans have made the man a hell of a lot money over the last several years to watch a mediocre football team. I'm 33 years old and NEVER watched the Chiefs win a Superbowl. It's about damn time Lamar gives a little back to the fans that's made his ass rich while sporting a "competitive team".

Again, I agree with you on both statements! Yes, a healthy Law is worth the price. Not only for this year but for the next few years. I mean ... if we sign him then we can have him for the next few years.

I also agree about a healthy Law playing elsewhere would be a shame.

I also agree with someone above ... we need some more "I'm the best CB in the NFL" attitude on D.

If we have any chance at signing him ... CP should go all out to get into Red & Gold!!!

I saw Gonzo on the local sports a few nights ago. Said this is Shields last year. Said it could be the same for Roaf. Said Green, Holmes, and himself are getting up there too. Said if it is going to happen, it has to be now.

I will not use the language that you used but I agree with you. I saw our only 2 SB appearances. It was fantastic!!! But, been way too long since we have been there.

And, yes ... the Chiefs can complain about a less than up to date stadium but the truth is Lamar has made a good profit on the backs of the fans the last several years. It is time he spent the money to put a winner on the field not just in the cash register!!!!

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Green, Gonzalez and Holmes will all be here next season IMO. I believe Roaf will play next year as well. He told Vermeil he wanted to play another 3 seasons. With Welbourn waiting in the wings, I'm not that worried about Shields retiring....

I would love to have Law as well. I just don't think he is worth Surtain money.

I'm in. Let me know when we start the assault. I'm so sick and fucking tired of all these bullshit Laws threads I just want to reach through the screen and choke the shit out each and every thread starter.

Have a nice day everyone. :)

It's beyond me how anybody can find anything to bitch about after the offseason the Chiefs had this year. :rolleyes:

Even though I didn't start the thread, start with me if it helps your lil' ego. I could care less about rep, and would much rather read a post about the Chiefs, rather than 85% of the front page loaded with personal BS that I don't care about. If you don't want to talk about the handful of Chief topics on the front page, then you have plenty of other options to discuss. I'm interested in the possibility of bringing in a Pro-Bowler on defense. If you don't want to read it, you have plenty of other non-football topics to choose from.

Because I know this could very well be the end of our offensive machine. Our defense was horrible last year, and I'de love nothing more than to bring in a guy with the potential to be Probowler opposite Surtain. If we have cap space left after last season, use it on every defensive upgrade possible befor the season starts.

Consider yourself signed up. :fire:

Seriously, all this talk of Law coming here is nothing more than that. Talk. The guy has already publicly stated he wont play here because we wont pay him enough. This horse is dead and no matter how much you want to beat it with a stick, it will not get up and run.

Why must people constantly introduce reason when I get a perfectly good rant going? Damn noobs. :shake:

That's the bottom line. Overspending on a cornerback with a FOOT injury would be stupid anyway.

It's only considered good reason if there's truly something ti talk about. In this case, there isn't. Keep your trigger finger warmed up, my brother. :D

Noob???? Yeah...whatever. I was talking to half these people befor the Planet even existed in the KC Star boards.

Exactly. The money grubbing piece of damaged goods has already said he won't play here. END OF STORY!

For the previous contract offer.... Yet, the front office still stays in touch with his agent....I wonder why? :hmmm:

Were your Ty Law threads the reason they left?

How do you figure he is a noob? He's been posting for 3 more years on this board than you.

ROFL

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:D

I hereby nominate this to become an official part of the Planet lexicon.

I believe noobness is a state of mind, not a length of time. Believing that Law will sign is a sure sign of noobness in my book.

3 words. Veteran league minimum. :)

ROFL

Great, now I have another word I have to learn to misspell.

<strike>Regardless</strike> Reguardless.

Damnit Jim! :cuss:

Did I start this Ty law thread? Have I started ANY of the Ty Law threads? Were you around when the KC Star board was the place that alot of the fine people here discussed Chiefs football? If the answer to all of the above questions was no....Then STFU

No!!!! The Star closed the Forum down!!! And, replaced it with the tame junk they have over there now.

Uh oh. Look out Simplex. He's broken out the internet tough guy talk. :p

Come on guys. Can't we all just get along?

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...d/RKPIC300.jpg

Probably not. :D

May I ask you a question? What size gun do you have to the heads of those complaining about a Ty Law thread?

If not, then why are they still reading????

I don't complain about all the useless threads on the front page. I just simply skip them.

Re: KC Star

I havn't read their forum in months, and that is just because the Planet was down that day. Just because i don't post as often as some of you doesn't make me a "noob" to the Planet. I log on every day and at the very least read the handful of Chief related topics. If I have time to post to a topic I'm interested in, I do. But, I rarely waste my time posting in the non-football related topics.

Chiefs have around 3.5 million in cap space, rookie salary pool $3,200,348. Coincidence? doubtful

finaly got it to load, that 3.5 is before the rookies are signed

You may not have read all the "noob" vs "elder" threads recently. I was poking a little fun, I didn't mean to offend you.

I get paid to post.

The person writing that check is getting screwed.








;)

Pink writes the checks.

Call me a NOOB or give me neg rep all you wish, but I like the potential in siging Law.

Assuming his value keeps dropping and the Chiefs offered a heavily incentified contract- we pay only on his performance. The incentives take the risk out. If his value keeps dropping, then he will come back to us.

Another thought- Is Warfield's potential suspension appealable? If so, then we could start EW the first few weeks while the appeal buys time and Law builds his health. Then, let Law step in.

I'd certainly go for an incentive linked contract if I were C.P. If Law is healthy he will make his money. If not we lose nothing.

I think C.P. is still interested but is trying to get him as cheap as he can. Why else would they be checking on him each week. I'm sure it is not just a social call.

Now, I agree with many of you guys ... I think it is 99% we don't sign him. But, this is a football thread. What is the difference of discussing Law as opposed to the thread of guessing how many games we will win? Seems to me it is the same banana with a different flavor. Maybe Seniorita vs. a Lakatan .... one is sweeter than the other.

I thought we only had around the region of 900K of cap space left.

jeez, you're starting to sound like skip... :eek: :eek: :eek:

well, carl did pretty good, but...

he didn't sign anybody to replace hicks, sims, or mitchell... :p :p :p

oh, be quiet n00b... http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/tongueout.gif http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/tongueout.gif http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/tongueout.gif

see?

only half... http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/tongueout.gif http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/tongueout.gif http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/tongueout.gif

see?

only three more years... :harumph: :harumph: :harumph:

hmmmm... let's see....

re=again + guard=watch over + less=without, none

so, noone to watch over me, again?

yeah, i second...

bah, where's the fun in that? :shrug: ROFL :D

We won't sign Law and you can take that to the bank.

banana?

you're talking about bananas?

that's even worse than a ty law thread!! :p :p :p


psssst... some of us are kidding you...

pshaw...

another n00b speaks up... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Thank you. The one piece of information I continued past page one of this thread for.