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Phobia 09-09-2005 10:53 AM

Sub-forum decision
 
We have 4 sub-forums stuck at the top of the page. We need to add a "Games" sub-forum during the season for all our Gambling, pick'em, score, fantasy, etc. games which accompany the regular season.

I don't want more than 4 sub-forums at the top, so one of them needs moved. Which one?

Taco John 09-09-2005 10:54 AM

Easy... Take down the one that has the fewest threads... ;)

Taco John 09-09-2005 10:55 AM

You also might consider another poll option... removing them from up there altogether and just putting them in the main index... :)

teedubya 09-09-2005 10:55 AM

get rid of that DC shit.

shakesthecat 09-09-2005 10:56 AM

DC is a waste of bandwidth and drive space.

Mr. Laz 09-09-2005 10:56 AM

can't you just put "planet store" as a regular link up by the "donation" link or something and combine Games and Geeks

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attac...id=46613&stc=1

chagrin 09-09-2005 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs
get rid of that DC shit.


I agree with the evil one

teedubya 09-09-2005 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chagrin
I agree with the evil one

the evil one, eh?

Phobia 09-09-2005 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
can't you just put "planet store" as a regular link up by the "donation" link or something.


doesn't seem like it's really a forum :shrug:

That's the eventual plan. I want the fewest sub-forums up there as we can manage, but I also can't ignore the convenience factor.

stumppy 09-09-2005 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
can't you just put "planet store" as a regular link up by the "donation" link or something.


doesn't seem like it's really a forum :shrug:



[/edit] or maybe put the Store link where those temporary arrowhead search buttons etc are still at.


What Laz said.

Donger 09-09-2005 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakesthecat
DC is a waste of bandwidth and drive space.

I would tend to agree. It's become rather pathetic.

Mr. Kotter 09-09-2005 11:04 AM

DC has become a pathetic joke. I still wander over to be amused on occaision, but it's certainly not our best "side".....make people dig for it a bit, if they are looking for a circle jerk.

Bowser 09-09-2005 11:05 AM

Can you merge PlanetStore with the Pictures? Easier that way to "See Where ChiefsPlanet Has Been".

chagrin 09-09-2005 11:06 AM

The whole thing seems to be one or two people arguing semantics with everyone who disagrees with them, it's a friggin neverending cycle of angry, insulting banter.

P.S. GeeksPlanet has much more to offer. There are alot of dudes on there with good knowledge, I certainly learn alot from it. The DC Forum doesn't "teach" me anything

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John
Easy... Take down the one that has the fewest threads... ;)

That is far too logical.

As is taking down the one with the least amount of daily hits. :rolleyes:

ct 09-09-2005 11:08 AM

Pictures
For those who partake, they know where to find it. For those of us at work, don't want to see it.

If there is a way for me to turn off all the sub-forums, so I don't see ANY of them, that would be ideal.

Goapics1 09-09-2005 11:09 AM

Yes

Phobia 09-09-2005 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
That is far too logical.

As is taking down the one with the least amount of daily hits. :rolleyes:

Far too logical to somebody not paying the bills, perhaps. I'm not automatically removing PlanetStore. It is supposed to be a revenue generator.

If the general populous chooses the Store to be moved, that's what I'll do. I know this democracy stuff is really not the type of leadership you prefer, but it is proven. My shoulders are large enough to handle the criticism even though I'm simply following the wishes of my constituents.

Eleazar 09-09-2005 11:11 AM

I would say DC but I can't see it anymore PBJ PBJ

the Talking Can 09-09-2005 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
DC has become a pathetic joke. I still wander over to be amused on occaision, but it's certainly not our best "side".....make people dig for it a bit, if they are looking for a circle jerk.

ROFL


you've had the biggest face plant of anybody, perhaps ever, in the DC forum....you are the problem you're talking about....


anyways, this isn't complicated..the DC Forum is more popular than all the others...combined....multiplied by 4....

it's funny how angry it makes people who supposedly never go over there, and supposedly don't care...

Simplex3 09-09-2005 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
That is far too logical.

As is taking down the one with the least amount of daily hits. :rolleyes:

You just want to keep DC easily accessible because it's the only place you spend any time.

I vote to kick DC out. It's become a caricature of itself. I haven't seen a reasonable discussion carried on over there in months. Leave it on the board to keep that garbage off the main board, but it doesn't need to be linked off of the main page. Ever.

Brock 09-09-2005 11:13 AM

This place would be better if the DC forum was just gotten rid of.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3
You just want to keep DC easily accessible because it's the only place you spend any time.

I vote to kick DC out. It's become a caricature of itself. I haven't seen a reasonable discussion carried on over there in months. Leave it on the board to keep that garbage off the main board, but it doesn't need to be linked off of the main page. Ever.

You are an idiot. I was here posting during the game last night.

Mr. Kotter 09-09-2005 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3
You just want to keep DC easily accessible because it's the only place you spend any time.

I vote to kick DC out. It's become a caricature of itself. I haven't seen a reasonable discussion carried on over there in months. Leave it on the board to keep that garbage off the main board, but it doesn't need to be linked off of the main page. Ever.

DC has become the same 10-12 people, who account for about 70% of the posts on the entire forum.....with occaisional pot shots from those of us who are amused by the carwreck it has become.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Far too logical to somebody not paying the bills, perhaps. I'm not automatically removing PlanetStore. It is supposed to be a revenue generator.

If the general populous chooses the Store to be moved, that's what I'll do. I know this democracy stuff is really not the type of leadership you prefer, but it is proven. My shoulders are large enough to handle the criticism even though I'm simply following the wishes of my constituents.

My point was not to remove a revenue generator if it is the least hit forum. Clearly, having that forum there helps to maintain the board so you would not remove that one. Besides, it's not a discussion board. The board that generates the least hits (and is a discussion board) should be the one that goes...logically speaking.

chagrin 09-09-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Far too logical to somebody not paying the bills, perhaps.


Beautiful
:clap:

Simplex3 09-09-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
My point was not to remove a revenue generator if it is the least hit forum. Clearly, having that forum there helps to maintain the board so you would not remove that one. Besides, it's not a discussion board. The board that generates the least hits (and is a discussion board) should be the one that goes...logically speaking.

How about removing the one that has the least positive impact? If I had 10 people a day give me a hug and 20 people a day kick me in the shins I'd still rather get rid of the larger group.

Raiderhater 09-09-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
This place would be better if the DC forum was just gotten rid of.

I am curious then, are you advocating that politics be allowed back on the main forum, or just not allowed at all?

Chiefnj 09-09-2005 11:21 AM

Wouldn't getting rid of the DC Forum just result in those topics being posted in the lounge?

Phobia 09-09-2005 11:22 AM

Getting rid of D.C. is not an option.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3
How about removing the one that has the least positive impact? If I had 10 people a day give me a hug and 20 people a day kick me in the shins I'd still rather get rid of the larger group.

Because Phobia has before stated that generating hits for a website is an important component to the web site's existence. Especially if they are going to seek advertisers or supporters down the line...

Bowser 09-09-2005 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Wouldn't getting rid of the DC Forum just result in those topics being posted in the lounge?

Yeah, DC should stay for that reason alone.

Bury the Pictures section, if nothing else. If we can find the Romper Room, we'll find the Pics.

Simplex3 09-09-2005 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
Because Phobia has before stated that generating hits for a website is an important component to the web site's existence. Especially if they are going to seek advertisers or supporters down the line...

And you'd lose the ability to get to DC if it weren't linked off the main page because you're too stupid to go back a level, right? Sorry, I should have been more sensitive to that issue.

Hits are hits no matter where something is linked from.

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Getting rid of D.C. is not an option.

Thank you.

the Talking Can 09-09-2005 11:27 AM

I'd like to change my vote.

I voted for the store based on numbers. But I can see how that might be shortsided (revenue, baby).

So, I'm voting for pictures. We'll always find the pron, no matter where it hides.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3
And you'd lose the ability to get to DC if it weren't linked off the main page because you're too stupid to go back a level, right? Sorry, I should have been more sensitive to that issue.

Hits are hits no matter where something is linked from.

Well then removing a lesser hit forum would not matter...

Donger 09-09-2005 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Getting rid of D.C. is not an option.

Out of curiosity, why not? Some technical issue, or do you fear that with that outlet gone, people would start posting on the main forum?

Simplex3 09-09-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
Well then removing a lesser hit forum would not matter...

Once again, why keep the irratant in people's faces. Frankly with the behavior going on over there I'd just as soon people have to dig to find it. It's most certainly not puttting the best foot forward for the board.

Phobia 09-09-2005 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger
Out of curiosity, why not? Some technical issue, or do you fear that with that outlet gone, people would start posting on the main forum?

Well, D.C. was established by a vote. It would take a vote to undo it. I think ChiefsPlanet is vastly improved by removal of cantankerous threads from the lounge. I believe my opinion is shared by the majority based upon previous votes and feedback.

So, to answer your question - the latter reason.

Chiefnj 09-09-2005 11:33 AM

Here are 4 subforums that should encompass everything:

1. Planet Store.
2. Place to argue with Denise.
3. Place For Big Daddy's Pictures and Rants.
4. Games and Geeks.

Mr. Laz 09-09-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3
Once again, why keep the irratant in people's faces. Frankly with the behavior going on over there I'd just as soon people have to dig to find it. It's most certainly not puttting the best foot forward for the board.

that's only because it's no longer dominated by people with opinions you agree with.


when it was dominated by the right, it was all candy and roses.

Raiderhater 09-09-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3
Once again, why keep the irratant in people's faces. Frankly with the behavior going on over there I'd just as soon people have to dig to find it. It's most certainly not puttting the best foot forward for the board.

I seriously question just how much that matters to most.

Brock 09-09-2005 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
that's only because it's no longer dominated by people with opinions you agree with.


when it was dominated by the right, it was all candy and roses.

ROFL Right. Who's "dominating" it now? :rolleyes:

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Here are 4 subforums that should encompass everything:

1. Planet Store.
2. Place to argue with Denise.
3. Place For Big Daddy's Pictures and Rants.
4. Games and Geeks.

I like the Games and Geeks.

Good idea.

Mr. Laz 09-09-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock
ROFL Right. Who's "dominating" it now? :rolleyes:

people you don't like .................... big surprise :rolleyes:

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplex3
Once again, why keep the irritant in people's faces. Frankly with the behavior going on over there I'd just as soon people have to dig to find it. It's most certainly not puttting the best foot forward for the board.

I don't care where it. But if it is the second most accessed board (and I don't know for sure it is) then it's rather juvenile to bury it simply because it's an 'irritant' to some who allow it to be so.

I was for moving the Girlie thread off the main board because it was too accessible by accident. People who would come here for the first time might have gotten a welcome or unwelcome surprise. It's worked fine. It still gets plenty of hits and is still going strong. It would make no sense to move the pictures/girlie forum either.

Raiderhater 09-09-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Here are 4 subforums that should encompass everything:

1. Planet Store.
2. Place to argue with Denise.
3. Place For Big Daddy's Pictures and Rants.
4. Games and Geeks.


Why the hell would we want rants in a subforum? Those are often times some of the best reads.

Eleazar 09-09-2005 11:36 AM

The DC forum should be moved someplace where you need an ancient artifact and the planets have to be in alignment to open it.

the Talking Can 09-09-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Here are 4 subforums that should encompass everything:

1. Planet Store.
2. Place to argue with Denise.
3. Place For Big Daddy's Pictures and Rants.
4. Games and Geeks.

not a bad idea...

Phobia 09-09-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raiderhader
I seriously question just how much that matters to most.

Right. I don't think that is relavent. D.C. is clearly marked with disclaimers. N00bs shouldn't click into that forum expecting a parade in their honor.

Donger 09-09-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Well, D.C. was established by a vote. It would take a vote to undo it. I think ChiefsPlanet is vastly improved by removal of cantankerous threads from the lounge. I believe my opinion is shared by the majority based upon previous votes and feedback.

So, to answer your question - the latter reason.

Understood. So, what would you say to a vote to remove DC during the regular (and hopefully post-) season? And, if anyone posts a political thread in the main forum, they will be banned immediately?

I suppose that a defintion of a 'political thread' would need to be established, but I think that could be accomplished rather easily.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Here are 4 subforums that should encompass everything:

1. Planet Store.
2. Place to argue with Denise.
3. Place For Big Daddy's Pictures and Rants.
4. Games and Geeks.

ROFL

Oh man, that would be a test of wills for some folks...showing up there while previously claiming the deep desire to ignore. ROFL ROFL

chagrin 09-09-2005 11:38 AM

The only question then Phob is why did you include it in the poll?
So far, it is winning (or losing) the count...

Why don't you do a new thread, taking a poll by all members, that would pretty much clear it up, wouldn't it?

chiefqueen 09-09-2005 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs
get rid of that DC shit.

But one should have to go to page 2 or 3 to get a real FB thread.

Bowser 09-09-2005 11:39 AM

My "official" answer -

Bury DC, and combine PlanetStore with either GeeksPlanet or Pictures.

When can I expect my first royalties check?

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Right. I don't think that is relavent. D.C. is clearly marked with disclaimers. N00bs shouldn't click into that forum expecting a parade in their honor.

But some do... ROFL

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger
Understood. So, what would you say to a vote to remove DC during the regular (and hopefully post-) season? And, if anyone posts a political thread in the main forum, they will be banned immediately?

I suppose that a defintion of a 'political thread' would need to be established, but I think that could be accomplished rather easily.

Sorry Donger but I don't like that idea. There have been alot of threads that started out as non political and ended up political.

Keep the DC but I don't care where you put it.

Raiderhater 09-09-2005 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
I don't care where it. But if it is the second most accessed board (and I don't know for sure it is) then it's rather juvenile to bury it simply because it's an 'irritant' to some who allow it to be so.

I was for moving the Girlie thread off the main board because it was too accessible by accident. People who would come here for the first time might have gotten a welcome or unwelcome surprise. It's worked fine. It still gets plenty of hits and is still going strong. It would make no sense to move this forum either.



I was trying to hold my tongue (fingers), but this is so assanine that I have lost my self control.

That thread is clearly labled as to what is inside. There is no "accidental" viewing of it. Unless you just caan't read, but in that case I don't know why you would be using this median to converse with people. Gawd, your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raiderhader
I was trying to hold my tongue (fingers), but this is so assanine that I have lost my self control.

That thread is clearly labled as to what is inside. There is no "accidental" viewing of it. Unless you just caan't read, but in that case I don't know why you would be using this median to converse with people. Gawd, your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

It's clearly marked NOW that it is in a subforum. Before when it was a thread on this board it wasn't.

Donger 09-09-2005 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler
Sorry Donger but I don't like that idea. There have been alot of threads that started out as non political and ended up political.

Keep the DC but I don't care where you put it.

If they become politicized, they get yanked.

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger
If they become politicized, they get yanked.

To where?

The original thread starter shouldn't be punished for posting a non-political thread that ended up a political jerk off.

Phobia 09-09-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chagrin
The only question then Phob is why did you include it in the poll?
So far, it is winning (or losing) the count...

Why don't you do a new thread, taking a poll by all members, that would pretty much clear it up, wouldn't it?

We're not removing any of those sub-forums. We're moving them elsewhere. Not stuck at the top of the Lounge.

Donger 09-09-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler
To where?

Deleted, period.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:44 AM

Just curious, Phil, do you have a breakdown of most accessed forums outside of this one?

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
We're not removing any of those sub-forums. We're moving them elsewhere. Not stuck at the top of the Lounge.

Can't you put them on the Arrowhead listing?

Raiderhater 09-09-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
It's clearly marked NOW that it is in a subforum. Before when it was a thread on this board it wasn't.


Bullshit. "Girly thread DON'T LOOK AND COMPLAIN" has been the title since the big debacle over the issue way back when.

And you accuse others of revisionist history... :rolleyes:

Eleazar 09-09-2005 11:45 AM

Did the girlie thread ever say anything in the subject besides "Girlie JPG thread, don't look and complain"?

That means don't look if you feel inclined to complain about girlie JPG's. How much simpler could it be? Should you have to scan your driver's license to open it?

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler
Can't you put them on the Arrowhead listing?

Oops.. I see that they are.

If you remove them from the top does it remove them from Arrowhead?

Mr. Laz 09-09-2005 11:47 AM

1. cut or bury DC

political stuff will eventually find it's way back into the regular forum


2. cut or bury the picture forum

next time a hot girl/celeb has an OOPS! a thread WILL end up in the regular forum.

it just will


3. Store forum - needed for planet revenue


4. geeks - :shrug: needed more for archiving measures


5. games - :shrug: needed more for archiving measures





imo leaves 2 real choices ... combine the 2 archive type forums into (Geeks and Games) or main link the Store on the front page ala the "donations" link.

Phobia 09-09-2005 11:47 AM

Actually, I think Big Daddy's original title was "Sugar and Spice and everything nice, click into this thread for the surprise of your life."

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raiderhader
Bullshit. "Girly thread DON'T LOOK AND COMPLAIN" has been the title since the big debacle over the issue way back when.

And you accuse others of revisionist history... :rolleyes:

Actually, it said 'don't look and complain' after people looked and complained...

and that was when it was on the front page of the main forum without the disclaimer. There was a massive outcry saying that the thread would die or otherwise be harmed and it wasn't.

Phobia 09-09-2005 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler
Oops.. I see that they are.

If you remove them from the top does it remove them from Arrowhead?

I can move them into Arrowhead without them being sub-forums of the Lounge.

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
Actually, I think Big Daddy's original title was "Sugar and Spice and everything nice, click into this thread for the surprise of your life."


I'm not sure if that was it but it was something other than 'don't look and complain.'

memyselfI 09-09-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I can move them into Arrowhead without them being sub-forums of the Lounge.

Sounds reasonable. I trust your judgement. You know how much each of the forums are used or not. And of course anything that generates revue should remain untouched.

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I can move them into Arrowhead without them being sub-forums of the Lounge.

Then why not do that?

I think that is any very easy solution.

Donger 09-09-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia
I can move them into Arrowhead without them being sub-forums of the Lounge.

Sans nuking the entire thing, I'd vote for that.

Raiderhater 09-09-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI
Actually, it said 'don't look and complain' after people looked and complained...

and that was when it was on the front page of the main forum without the disclaimer. There was a massive outcry saying that the thread would die or otherwise be harmed and it wasn't.


WTF did I just say, woman? Ever since the big debacle over the issue, that has been in the title.

And that has been at least a couple of years.

Bowser 09-09-2005 11:52 AM

Ahh, the old raiderhader, memysefI exchanges. Takes us all back to yesteryear.......

:D

dirk digler 09-09-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser
Ahh, the old raiderhader, memysefI exchanges. Takes us all back to yesteryear.......

:D

They act like they are married or something.

:p

Raiderhater 09-09-2005 11:54 AM

I am for which ever option has Denise less inclined to visit this forum. I loathe the idea of sweeping the trash under the rug versus taking it out, but since that is how everyone else wants to keep house, then let's put the rug deep in the basement.


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