Vailpass, 45-7 ???
 

Wasn't that your predicted score for today? Sorry, we only scored half that.

I do still think Iowa will have a very good team this year, and hope the best for them, but how 'bout you show a little respect as well.

Ease up on the arrogance for your team and the premature disrespect of your opponent.

Yeah. I'm a Hawkeye fan and knew better than to run my pie hole last week. Much respect to clones today. They dismantled Iowa. Even with the starting QB. Made no difference. What an embarrassment for the Big Ten today. Over-rated.

Thanks, not trying to run my mouth, just would like to see a little more respect.


Regardless, let's beat the Jets tomorrow.

I posted this in another forum but I think it's appropriate here:

1) Iowa always takes the ball when they win the toss. The wind was blowing over 30mph and they took the ball. They started their first 8 or so drives inside their own 30, including one at the 1. Conversely, ISU spent 90% of the first half inside Iowa territory. Field position is killer in a defensive game like that, and the wind made it worse.

2) Tate is a fierce competitor, no doubt about it. But he's GOT to know when not to take on a defensive player helmet-to-helmet. He put himself in harm's way and it wasn't smart.

3) Iowa looked like they didn't care about this game (again) whereas ISU was hyped up from the start (again). I know Iowa won 15 in a row during Hayden's time here, but dammit, it's time to start treating this like a rivalry again. ISU has won 6 of 8, it's time for the Hawkeyes to stop looking down their noses at them.

I'm bummed because everybody going in was worried about Iowa's defensive line and running game. At the end of the 3rd quarter, Iowa had almost 180 yards rushing while ISU had 80 on 33 carries. There's no excuse for losing this game...

After thinking about it last night, I'm pretty pissed that Iowa doesn't seem to take this game nearly as seriously as Iowa State. I almost feel like the Hawkeyes came out arrogant yesterday, and when you've lost 6 out of 8, there's no room for it...

ROFL
So ISU won because Iowa didn't take them seriously.
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This post truely reflects why Iowa fans are always perceived as arrogant.

how bout the big 10

Iowa was supposed to win because Iowa has the more talented team. Iowa St. just wanted it more. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

I guess now all the national media will go back to polishing the SEC's knob. Them and Notre Dame. :shake: And I'm still not convinced that Notre Dame is all that good.

they should jump on the big 12 bandwagon the big 12 is 19-3

They may be 19-3 but that's a REALLY shaky 19-3. With Texas being the leader at the moment. Oklahoma has problems at QB and defense. Nebraska's offense is still a work in progress, but they have a solid D. Iowa St played inspired ball yesterday but who knows how good they are. Kansas St. has been lucky. Missouri is Jekyl/Hyde. Colorado hasn't played anyone. I thought Colo. St. was decent but they lost again yesterday so I'm not as impressed by Colorado's win against them last week. Kansas hasn't raised any eyebrows. Texas Tech could be very good. But they've played patsies too. Hell Baylor even won. I haven't seen A&M. yet With the exception of Texas no team has really stood out We'll see how it shakes out I guess. :shrug:

The weaker team winning by wanting it more usually results in a win by a few points. This was a 20 point win. And also may I remind you that Meyer overthrew his WR who had beaten the Iowa DB on his way to the endzone....TWICE! This game could have been a much more humiliating loss for the Hawks. Why can't you Hawk fans be graceful when you lose? That's the ARROGANCE I'm talking about.
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Frankie, I'm a Husker fan. I can be objective. Iowa came out totally unprepared to play yesterday. And they got there butts whipped. But Iowa should have beat the snot out of them.

Sorry Frankie but you're talking out of your ass.

Kirk Ferentz was out-coached by Dan McCarney.

Quite simple -- ISU was the better team yesterday. No arrogance about it.

IMO the difference was ISU's defensive front. They dictated Iowa's game.

I'm a Hawkeye fun but am forced to admit the Suckclones totally dominated Iowa. Reality check time in Iowa City. The Hawks have been blessed with great coaching but they were sure shown up yesterday.

Great game by your Clones ISU Jeff. The Hawks made mistake after mistake and ISU made them pay for each and every one of them. Desire was clearly much greater by ISU. When the Hawks were marching for a score to bring it within 7 in the second half the ISU DB literally ripped the ball out of the Hawk receiver's hands. Will to win. ISU came to play and dictated the outcome by controlling the trenches.

To be accurate my quote was something like" on paper the Hawks should win this one 45-7 but when these two teams play anything can happen." From a talent perspective there is no reason ISU should have been within 40 points of the Hawks but that's what makes in-state rivalries so damn unpredictable.
It's neither arrogant or disrespectful to expect a team that has finished in the top ten for the last three years, is coming off a major bowl victory over LSU, and is currently ranked 8 in the country to thump a team that has not finished in the top twenty twice in the last 10 years and is currently unranked.

Again, props to ISU and their fans. You have in-state bragging rights for the year.

Damn, my Broncos got whipped, my Hawks lost to Moo-U, and I lost my opening Fantasy game(thanks Trent Green for that stellar 2 point performance). Anybody wanna' kick my dog?

I didn't watch any of the Iowa game with ISU...
Glad I didn't either. Sounds like Iowa State came ready to play and was the more physical team.

Iowa was plenty physical. Through the 3rd quarter (before the game was out of reach) ISU was averaging 2.4 yards per carry and Albert Young was averaging just about 8 yards per carry.

The problem was that Iowa's coaching staff simply would not run the ball when they need to run the ball. They ignored the wind completely and it came back to haunt them.

Iowa started only one drive outside of the ISU 30 all day.

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I'll even take it one further by saying the loss of Tate made no difference. State had rendered him ineffective BEFORE the injury.

Frankie was talking to me. He obviously was looking for any reason to call Hawk fans arrogant.

The Clones did a good job of flat-out neutralizing the passing game, Tate or no Tate.

What I don't understand is why Iowa didn't exploit further the obvious mismatches they had in the running game.

And where was the jailbreak screen? The offense looked very vanilla on Saturday.

I didn't know Phobia was a Hawks fan. I missed his post. But he is an exception. Iowa State fans always regard the fans of two schools as historically arrogant and condescending: Iowa and Nebraska. That's why beating those two schools are always sweetest to us.

Well, all things considered, Nebraska earned their right to be arrogant.

And when you lose 15 in a row to a school, like ISU did to Iowa, there's some legitimacy in that as well.

That being said, ISU has won 6 of 8 from the Hawkeyes. It's about ****ing time Hawkeye fans wake up and realize ISU isn't a 2nd-rate program anymore...

BTW, Frankie, if you listen to alot of sports radio, I can see where you're getting your disdain for Hawkeye fans...

Deace calls it the Jihadic wing of the Hawkeye nation and they are big-time homers.

I take quite a bit of heat on another message board I'm on because I said all summer this was an 8-3 team that didn't deserve to be ranked top-10. I'm not a "real fan"...

htismaqe, phobia - rep. Obviously knowledge, grounded football fans.

But Vailpass, c'mon, you're proving my point about the arrogance. Although I will agree that Iowa probably has an overall more talented team and the reason ISU won was intensity and execution, but you're still saying Iowa's players are 40 points better?
That's like saying Ball St (56 pts, not 40, I know) could have beat Iowa if they had ISU's intensity. Intensity does not make up for 40 points.

Time to accept the fact that ISU has some football players.

Absolutely ISU has some football players. Anybody that thinks that they're THAT far behind Iowa is on something.

If I had to put my own ranks on them, I'd say Iowa talent-wise is a top-13 to top-20 team. ISU is top-20 to top-25.

I said on paper, player by player, position by position, the Hawks look to be superior to the tune of 40 points. I stand by that.
I offered a no-strings-attached congratulations on the victory, which ISU earned.
You have bragging rights for a year due to a very solid performance in the in-state rivalry game.
If you want to be considered an equal ISU will have to earn it by putting together 3-4 years of solid seasons against top-echelon opponents ending in big time bowl games with year-end rankings in the top ten. Until then they are just the same old Clones who have their superbowl against the Hawks then fold the rest of the way.

I'll be the first to admit that, despite a win saturday, ISU is not overall on Iowa's level of a football program. What Iowa's done over the last 3 years is incredible and I would never suggest that one win puts the Cyclones on that level.

I'm just hoping that this win can be the start moving closer to that kind of consistency.

But I'll go with htismaqe's quote "Absolutely ISU has some football players. Anybody that thinks that they're THAT far behind Iowa is on something" to address your statement of "on paper, player by player, position by position, the Hawks look to be superior to the tune of 40 points. I stand by that"

And I agree completely that Iowa is a top 10-20 team, and ISU is 20-25.

But ISU has a fairly advantageous schedule from now on, so I'm praying they use the talent they've got this year to actually make an impact.

O alright fine, I'll admit I may have been overstating the talent gap just a teeny tiny little bit. Truth be told I root for the Clones when they are playing Big 12 opponents, and they definetely have talent. In fact, they are a very well coached team who should make a splash this year.
Now I'm going to go wash mymouth out with black-n-golds (Jager+Goldschlagger)!

Drinking, there's a topic I'm sure I can agree with you about.